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Anonymous 08/01/2020 (Sat) 20:06:29 No. 737612
>didn't make CP illegal until 2014 and constantly fetishize children and young teenagers. Also have a lot of rapes that go unreported >workaholic Confucius culture where workers are constantly killing themselves >Horribly HORRIBLY consumerist culture that somehow is worse than America's >love authority. They literally are the biggest fucking bootlickers on the planet Is there any hope for Japan moving to the left? Can they be rendered class conscious? They cling to their Confucius ideals really hard and continue bootlicking. It seems as if they're moving more and more rightward day after day.
Japan is actually one of the more promising countries for revolution; the crises of capitalism are insanely advanced there (possibly the most advanced of any single nation in the world). They have a very large communist party and this recession might do the trick in ridding them of their false consciousness. We can only hope, anyway. Not to mention they have had some of the most militant communist orgs in that part of Asia (Japanese Red Army, etc.) even if they were just adventurist college students.
>>737612 Japanese lords and bosses treated and still treat commoners and workers better than your average Chinese or Vietnamese landlords or bosses, so no. The best Japanese can achieve is another nothing-spectacular reform
>>737612 >>737617 Certain aspects of Japanese capitalism are more far along in how totally exploited people are than it is in even the USA. It can serve as a canary in the coalmine for what's to come in the future for the rest of the highly developed world in future developments in advanced capitalism. So can the USA, in other ways.
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Stay mad goon
>>737612 >workaholic Confucius culture wtf are you talking about, Confucius hated work and never did anything except playing music and saying stuff
>>737673 >accept your place in life
Somehow japan is praised by right wing weebs despite the fact that is just USA 2.0. Beatiful.
>>737691 proof that right wingers are fine with degenerate consumerist capitalist just so long as it's EtHnIcAlLy HoMoGeNeOuS
>>737617 >the crises of capitalism are insanely advanced there (possibly the most advanced of any single nation in the world). I agree. >They have a very large communist party and this recession might do the trick in ridding them of their false consciousness. Last I heard about Japanese politics (pre-pandemic, probably a year or two ago) the nationalists were making some gains, but from reading search result headlines from "Japanese Communist Party" within the last year you might be on to something: https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20191115/p2a/00m/0na/012000c This was pleasant surprise, personally: https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Inside-Japanese-politics/Japanese-Communist-Party-s-long-goodbye-to-its-China-comrades >The JCP leader said the party has "battled against great-power chauvinism and hegemonism in the name of socialism" for more than half a century, alluding to an ideological conflict with the Soviet Union that began in the 1950s. >The party took issue with Stalin's dismissal of the thinking of Marx and Engels as belonging to an older time, and accused him of crafting a superficially similar but different ideological structure to suit his own convenience. It also objected to his purges of political opponents and oppression of minority groups. >Soviet leaders criticized Stalin's rule after his death, but the JCP rejected this and accused them of carrying on Stalin's "great-power chauvinism" and "bureaucratic dictatorship." >After this rupture, the JCP worked to purify its own Marxist-Engelsian brand of socialism. Tetsuzo Fuwa -- a party elder and perhaps its main ideological pillar -- has said that the JCP occupies a "unique position in the world," noting that "there are almost no parties in capitalist countries that grasp the theory and spirit of Marx and Engels and make an effort to consider the outlook for future change through that lens." They seem incredibly on-point in focus and I frankly had no idea. Thanks for pointing me to this. >they have had some of the most militant communist orgs in that part of Asia (Japanese Red Army, etc.) Today it's called Movement Rentai, apparently.
>>737691 They keep praising despite the fact the right-wing government made it easier to import cheap labor from SEA whille the communist party opposed the move. How ironic.
>>737699 I've been in these groups, and they basically are okay with japan because "muh animu tiddies" or "based japan owning the libs", right wing coonsumerist critique is mostly aesthetic anyway.
>>737617 >Japan is actually one of the more promising countries for revolution; No, it's not >They have a very large communist party and this recession might do the trick in ridding them of their false consciousness. You got this info off wikipedia, they are largely irrelevant and it's immensely socially damaging to out yourself even as a moderate leftist there. >Not to mention they have had some of the most militant communist orgs in that part of Asia (Japanese Red Army, etc.) even if they were just adventurist college students. Ancient history, porky is stronger than ever there. I'd wager on the US shifting to the left before Japan ever does. >They keep praising despite the fact the right-wing government made it easier to import cheap labor from SEA whille the communist party opposed the move. How ironic. Japan has a lot of migrant workers and expats, difference from the West is that they are utterly disenfranchised and openly discriminated against. Communists shilling muh protectionism shows they are opportunistic left nationalists/imperialists a la Bernie, Corbyn or Melenchon. Nothing to see here.
>>737701 Go eat paste with the rest of the euro-coms in some Bulgarian squat
>>737767 >Ancient history, porky is stronger than ever there. I'd wager on the US shifting to the left before Japan ever does. That's pretty much a requirement: do you think the present US would allow their biggest foothold in Eastern Asia to turn leftist? The LDP has an iron grip on the country thanks to the USA.
>>737777 bump for squat quads
>>737777 checked
I really doubt the Communist Party has much influence there. Japan is basically a one-party state.
The year is 2500. Socialism dominates the planet, except for the harsh tribal badlands known as "Japan" and "America" where unprofitable capitalist dynasties wage eternal plunder wars against each other.
>>737666 Moot & friends were actually goon weebs who were in exile from SA kek But yeah the animu hate is autism
>>737825 This, but unironically
>>737666 >>737841 >not hating japan The burden's on you to show a case for rehabilitation. I love anime and still despise reactionary Japan.
>>737612 >Lots of unreported rapes You do know that the main way to tack on to the list of atrocities that communists supposedly did was to make some bullshit "these are how many babies didn't get born" statistic right? A lot of the that shit is just femininist lies in order to get Japan to pressure to their gay ass (mostly aesthetic like the "right" they hate) policies.
>>737612 >Confucius culture >Japan Isn't confucianism more localised to China and Korea or am I just clinicalll\y retarded>
>>737825 don't joke, that's basically what the retards that post here actually believe
>>737853 >I love anime Ah, I see where the problem is. Have you considered not having shit taste?
>>737865 anyone who thinks Confucianism is anything more than ideological justification for people to do stupid shit is infinitely more retarded.
>>737868 As if American cartoons even touch them on the quality scale. I had someone actually say that /co/ shit is better than /a/ shit
>>737777 Your conflation of JCP with eurocommunism displays nothing but your ignorance of the party in question.
>>737876 Literally any old Looney Tune is better than any weebshit.
>>737853 Japan’s really not that reactionary compared to Taiwan and South Korea. rightoids shilling Japan as this pure Nazi country is mostly ideological maneuvering and an attempt to justify their degenerate videogame and anime addiction.
>>737868 >t. soap opera addict
>>737876 Did you hear me say "Japan cartoon bad, watch king of hill"? I said Japanese cartoons are universally shit. That wasn't a relative statement, I'm not comparing them to another, better form of cartoon. I'm saying they themselves are bad and you should feel too ashamed to profess your love of them, even anonymously. American cartoons are also shit, but that has no bearing on the shittiness of Japanese cartoons (except insofar as decades of american military occupation has led to cultural transfer, obviously).
>>737893 t. ex-weeb struggling with shame for having been a weeb
>>737893 Who cares?
>>737897 Not even remotely close. I didn't even fuckin like pokemon in grade school. It's always been shit, I've always thought anime was shit, I've been trying to tell people for literal decades but they just persist in having shit taste. Try again asshole.
>>737904 you’re a man of culture just like me
>>737904 What is your media preferences?
>didn't make CP illegal until 2014 I thought it was 2003? Either way it was very late in criminalizing it. >constantly fetishize children and young teenagers I don't really care about that stuff in anime and manga, but the u18 gravure shit is disturbing. >Also have a lot of rapes that go unreported That's a problem in every country. >workaholic Confucius culture where workers are constantly killing themselves That's going on everywhere >Horribly HORRIBLY consumerist culture that somehow is worse than America's I don't think it is any worse than America unless you consider the anime industry somehow representative of the entire nation of Japan, which it isn't. >love authority. They literally are the biggest fucking bootlickers on the planet I don't think that is true. They are beaten down, but Japan has a long history of resistance to authority and fascism. >Is there any hope for Japan moving to the left? Can they be rendered class conscious? They cling to their Confucius ideals really hard and continue bootlicking. It seems as if they're moving more and more rightward day after day. They have one of the largest communist parties in the world and despite having a right-wing militarist party in power they are majority anti-war and supported the, now in tatters, pacifist constitution.
>>737817 They have a lot of influence in local politics, but they are pretty irrelevant at the national level. Last I checked they are the main opposition party in Kyoto and generally have a solid presence polling at like 12-15% nationwide.
>>737904 So it sounds like you haven't ever really touched anime and make bullshit assumptions based on your uninformed bias against anime.
>>737853 Some anime are reactionary, but there are actually more with revolutionary sentiment because it's historically been a shafted industry with a lot of underground niches, only recently has it been more mainstream in any sense. But needless to say, most anime has little explicitly political messaging...
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>>737893 I liked serial experiments lain and cowboy bebop. Even pokemon/naruto were entertaining as a kid tbh
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>>737893 King of the Hill was good though
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>>738123 P R O P A N E
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>>737868 >I love anime Bro
>>737612 There is hope for everyone, comrade. Japan's problems are temporary. Capitalism will force people to wake up. As for the CP thing, honestly it was already illegal to rape kids, so making CP was definitely illegal. Possessing this material was not. Not as much a change as you make it out to be. Functionally CP has been illegal for quite a while.
>>737612 First one idc about, the second one yeah I hear it happens but workers also get to sleep at work which Americans are forbidden from doing. Yeah third one is an issue. Fourth one, boo hoo muh bootlickers. At least you tried
>>738075 I lived in Kyoto and I can confirm they're very active there. They're also the only opposition: at the prefectural elections in 2018 (or 2017, I don't remember) there were only two candidates: the JCP backed candidate and the one backed by...literally everyone else. Crazy.
>>738081 >>737917 It's bait retards.
>didn't make CP illegal until 2014 and constantly fetishize children and young teenagers. Also have a lot of rapes that go unreported Less cases than in the west, also politicians aren't in pedorings. >workaholic Confucius culture where workers are constantly killing themselves People on average work less hours than average americans. In reality the corporate culture is highly competitive and demanding no matter where you go although Japan could be an exception. >Horribly HORRIBLY consumerist culture that somehow is worse than America's Consumerism isn't a bad thing. >love authority. They literally are the biggest fucking bootlickers on the planet And that's a good thing. How is lack of authority working in American during COVID? The countries in which people trust and abide by the state rules are the ones which made it with least casualties, even when shit like face masks weren't used by the public. Ie nordics (not sweden in this case) and Japan for example. >Is there any hope for Japan moving to the left? Can they be rendered class conscious? They cling to their Confucius ideals really hard and continue bootlicking. It seems as if they're moving more and more rightward day after day. Why should they? Start from somewhere else, be successful and others will mimic it
>>737617 Obviously a trot would say that
>>738611 >Why should they? Start from somewhere else, be successful and others will mimic it <Establish communist country <Proceed to be condemned, embargoed, intervened in, invaded by proxy and bombed into the ground This may come as a shock for you, but communism was in the process of spreading throughout Asia throughout the 20th century.
>>738780 None of those stopped it's spread in Asia though.
>>738790 >None of those stopped it's spread in Asia though. revolutions in India, iran and the Middle East could not have been supported because of capitalist countries during the World War 2 threatening the Soviet Union.
>>738790 >What was Indonesia to start Read a book
Man faggots like you are the reason why asia is a shithole. This basically a modern version of orientalism pushed by japanese porky too. Japan is not like your anime. It's not even a modern country, they are as superstitious and tribalism as the least advanced middle of fucking nowhere island. Stop watching anime and stop listen to people online. And don't be a fucking turist. I'm familiar with the japanese lumpenproletariat and compared to the americans they are much more potentially revolutionary. Same applies to koreans btw, muh ant mentality it's true but i think many degrees less than american suburb or cities.
>>738972 >I'm familiar with the japanese lumpenproletariat and compared to the americans they are much more potentially revolutionary. Well, tell us more.
>>738974 First of all there is a big divide between cities and place not in the city. Majority politically speaking they overwhelming illiterate. Their situation it's accepted as a reality of life nothing more. Some of them are low tier scammers, some are whores. Neetism and hokkimori is something more related to young people but those are just passive bunch. Some people i met where rumored to be part of some leftist organization when younger, but they hide it a lot since for some people they were akin to a cult. Really what suprised me is that the confucian attitude to life is more akin to asetic protestantism when it comes to city life, while outside of it it's kind of akin to blood and soil kind of thing. Why they are potentially better than americans? Because with the expection of city zoomers no one here is a guy who feels like he a potentially future millionare. Truth is that if instead of rap music and hollywood trash foreigners where to import critical theory first (to drop the fetishism for the western commodity) and then marx (the final redpill) everyone would he convinced pretty easily, especially now that the economy is going more to shit. Biggest barrier it would be the islander mentality. tl;dr Dog eat dog is potentially more easy to convince than americuck mentality.
>>737617 The Japanese Red Army was based, and so was the music to come out of it.
>>738972 >japanese lumpen you mean the yakuza? are they /ourguys/?
>>737612 The left in japan are an buch of incels, and is not a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZxIIGbASBY
>>739144 Incels are only bad if they're right wing blackpills. Left wing capitalist blaming incels are fine.
First we destroy vidya, anime, manga and hentai. The bored Hikkies would lead the insurgency.
>>739151 I did never said was bad.
>>739165 are you ESL?
>>739144 based. the good kind of incel is the kind that recognizes inceldom is a result of class position.
>>737617 Ok neo-con
>>737777 Kek'd and checked.
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>didn't make CP illegal until 2014 and constantly fetishize children and young teenagers. One cannot say this is morally wrong in its entirety. Even with all that fetishiation the Japanese people still commit significantly less sex crimes on the underage when compared to its virtue signaling European prude. >Also have a lot of rapes that go unreported Because Japan is a non-European non-Abrahamic country they MUST be raping women and underage at a greater rate than non-European countries? Do you also believe the murder rate in Japan are under reported as well because it is lower than most European nations? Theft? Obesity? Just how exactly does your statement above have to do with Japan being right wingers and swinging left? The U.S. and Europe are for the most past, left, yet rape and child exploitation surpasses that of Japan's. Looks like you're taking something you do not like due to your conditioning and labeling it as "right wing" even though right wingers have been known to oppose of such media. >workaholic Confucius culture where workers are constantly killing themselves >Confucius The suicide rate of worker in Japan are due to a variety of factors not "Confucius culture". Due to high demand to "succeed" children & young adults are overburdened to preform well in school and work; Poorly implemented kaizen could be playing a part in this. Since most of these young people are pressured they gradually lose hope in the future and commit suicide. >Horribly HORRIBLY consumerist culture that somehow is worse than America's I not versed in Japanese consumerist culture. But to say that it is "Horribly HORRIBLY" worse than the racial/ethnic, gun/rifle, and abrahamic, consumerist culture in the U.S. seems far-fetched. >love authority. They literally are the biggest fucking bootlickers on the planet Perhaps, if they are going to improve things let it be by Japanese ideas and Japanese people. I am against any further Eurangutang & abrahamic cultist intervention on other countries. That never ends well for the natives.
>>739214 >racial/ethnic idpol
>>739214 >The U.S. and Europe are for the most past, left shitpost discarded
>>739234 Thanks for pointing that out. I should have specified that U.S./European are left culturally not economically. I also did not mean to imply the left supports that type of media but to say it falls in either left/right seems folly.
>>739214 >Because Japan is a non-European non-Abrahamic country they MUST be raping women and underage at a greater rate than non-European countries? Yes. In socially conservative countries rapes are MASSIVELY underreported.
>>737817 enough for a revolution that is is you can convince the burgers not to go to war
No, imperialism is rooted in Japanese history and their neo-samurai ideology is ingrained deeply within the lives of their people of college drones
>>740952 Samurai's are pretty cool, I wouldn't mind being one
>>737666 Kill yourself weebshitter
>>739273 There's not such thing as muh gultural left, stop falling for retarded political compass memes.You're either economically left or not left at all.
>>742029 Even on the compass left/right is portrayed as solely economic. Social is portrayed as vertical up and down authoritarian or libertarian.
>>740960 they're literally cops
>>742046 >Even on the compass left/right is portrayed as solely economic.Social is portrayed as vertical up and down authoritarian or libertarian. >puts Hitler on the economic center despite privatizing shit left and right,puts Ghandi on the left despite being an anti-communist,Ayn Rand is socially lib despite being racist and beliving in social darwinism.
>>742072 The criminal fears the samurai
>>742294 The guys who made it are hacks and it's primarily a grift and propaganda piece.
>>742297 More like anyone who doesn't want to get murdered because a retarded larper wanted to try their new sword.
>>737666 Goons hate anime? Don't they have an anime forum?
We needed to nuke them two more times like originally planned.
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>>739214 >didn't make CP illegal until 2014 and constantly fetishize children and young teenagers. One cannot say this is morally wrong in its entirety. I can because I'm not a fucking obvious pedophile. >Even with all that fetishiation the Japanese people still commit significantly less sex crimes on the underage. less reported. Japan makes it much harder to report and prosecute sexual abuse. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/japan-secret-shame-180726113617684.html >virtue signaling European prude. Jeffrey Epstein teir. I sincerely hope that you contract some terrible life degrading disease and/or kill yourself for being this shameless about your pedophilia on a public forum.
>>738972 Isn't this literally Orientalism?

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