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Unpopular Opinions Anonymous 10/16/2020 (Fri) 23:47:21 No. 1006777
Unpopular opinion thread because I don't see any I'll start: people can be Marxist without reading theory, not everyone has time to obsessively read over every book with the word communism (and I read theory)
>>1011587 >I'm out of here now. And don't come back.
>>1011577 >Fucking creep I dunno, you're the one talking about horny kids you fucking weirdo
>>1011596 You know kids have libido, right?
>>1011599 Wow gross, quit talking about how much you wanna touch kids faggot
>>1011601 >Wow gross, quit talking about how much you wanna touch kids faggot Nice projection lolbert.
>>1011582 >science denial https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/people of college/articles/people of college2892678/ <Longitudinal neuroimaging studies demonstrate that the adolescent brain continues to mature well into the 20s. This has prompted intense interest in linking neuromaturation to maturity of judgment. <Neural connections that survive the pruning process become more adept at transmitting information through myelination. Myelin, a sheath of fatty cell material wrapped around neuronal axons, acts as “insulation” for neural connections. This allows nerve impulses to travel throughout the brain more quickly and efficiently and facilitates increased integration of brain activity [17]. Although myelin cannot be measured directly, it is inferred from volumes of cerebral white matter [18]. Evidence suggests that, in the prefrontal cortex, this does not occur until the early 20s or later [15,16]. <The prefrontal cortex coordinates higher-order cognitive processes and executive functioning. Executive functions are a set of supervisory cognitive skills needed for goal-directed behavior, including planning, response inhibition, working memory, and attention [19]. These skills allow an individual to pause long enough to take stock of a situation, assess his or her options, plan a course of action, and execute it. Poor executive functioning leads to difficulty with planning, attention, using feedback, and mental inflexibility [19], all of which could undermine judgment and decision making. <Synaptic overproduction, pruning and myelination—the basic steps of neuromaturation—improve the brain’s ability to transfer information between different regions efficiently. This information integration undergirds the development of skills such as impulse control [20]. Although young children can demonstrate impulse control skills, with age and neuro-maturation (e.g., pruning and myelination), comes the ability to consistently use these skills [21].
>>1011635 word filter fucked up the link
>>1006777 More unpopular right here than in general. But I think west European countries should try to fight way more the rise of Islamic fascism within their borders.
>>1011635 Does that mean retards should not have sex?
>>1011654 >Does that mean retards should not have sex? I means that biological adulthood begins somewhere around 25 years of age.
>>1011671 You seem to define that by executive function. But some people have worse EF at 25 than others do at 15, namely retards like the autistic.
>>1011684 This guy is a pseud faggot who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. >>1011635 I literally cited a fucking academic study. You have no right to accuse me of this, especially since your side got BTFO so fucking hard by the Rind study you had to run crying to Congress to get them to shut it down. Even more, myelination is a shitty metric of maturity since it continues to some extent until you die and cognitive processes aren't cordoned off into their own sectors but are constructed as distributed networks. Even if the bullshit 25 claim was true, sex is extremely simple to understand and doesn't require full mental development. Ernst et al. is a study measuring all the planning skills you just described and it turned up no statistically significant differences between 14-year-olds and any older adult. One of my biggest pet peeves is midwits like you accusing me of being some kind of bible thumping Kent Hovind for blasting your irreproducible bullshit feminist scriptures for the pseud garbage they are. Take your deboonker crap back to Snopes where people are credulous enough to believe it. NOW I'm done.
>>1011684 >You seem to define that by executive function. No adulthood is considered to begin when neurological changes, for brain development and maturation, are completed. >But some people have worse EF at 25 than others do at 15, namely retards like the autistic. No we are comparing the brain with it self during different stages of development, cause that is the relevant criteria for maturation. We are not comparing different brains. This is a comparison made on a time axis, not between different people.
>>1011696 >I literally cited a fucking academic study. No you did not, you just named some scientist, link to the study or upload a pdf. >myelination is a shitty metric of maturity So you are just ignoring inconvenient evidence ? >Even if the bullshit 25 claim was true, sex is extremely simple to understand and doesn't require full mental development. Completely irrelevant to the question about when to consider a person to be an adult. You can teach a 14 year old how to use an assault rifle and make child soldiers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzsggsf6-iE but it does not mean you should. >Ernst et al. is a study measuring all the planning skills you just described and it turned up no statistically significant differences between 14-year-olds and any older adult. That sounds like correlative evidence only.
State capitalism isn't socialism.
>>1011786 Distinction without a difference imo
>>1011786 >State capitalism isn't socialism. it can be the boot-loader for socialism
>>1008754 there is nothing wrong with supporting it but it has little or nothing to do with socialism and class struggle as such and I wish people would stop insisting that it does
>>1008954 >a supposedly socialist state you make arguments that you obviously don't even believe in why do you even bother uighur. just take the L
I don't agree with the "right of nations to self-determination". If a nation opposes socialism, it should be crushed.
>>1009404 >Is society somehow meaningfully improved by compelling people to dig ditches when a machine could do it better and faster? If we assume that the need and will to work and produce is part of our species-being, you can make that argument. It's a human nature argument, but iirc it's one that Marx made to justify why alienated labour r bad. We need meaningful work to be fulfilled, not just hobby work. If all that I can really contribute to society is simple things like dig ditches, because I am not a great artist or thinker etc., then the automation of all work will make me feel useless. Player Piano was all about that, people eventually smash the machines just so they can feel useful putting them back together again.
>>1011875 If work is species being, then we will divert technical advances towards ability amplification of individual humans.
I don't give a fuck about "species being", I don't want to work.
>>1012017 There is not one thing you want to do? Not a single thing which you desire to accomplish?
sociological problems won't always go away just by throwing more money at them
>>1012129 You'd have a point of ecological management had a meaningful amount of funding.
Chairman Gonzalo would have phone-banked for Biden.
>>1011461 best take here
>>1011461 Explain
>>1012100 Is playing vidya work?
>>1006816 >Here's my unpopular opinion: Hegel is fucking awesome, and critical to advancing marxist thought this Dialectical materialism is often misconstrued based on faulty readings of Hegel. This is especially bad with revisionists like Kautsky, but even generally good dialecticians sometimes don't formulate the method as well as they could. This bit from the Encyclopaedia of Philosophical Sciences is excellent for doing away with the Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis formula which is shit and implies some kind of psuedo-darwinian model for the development of beings which is a backdoor for the worst kinds of liberal idealism.
>>1012154 >would <he thinks he doesn't as we speak
>>1008554 >But we already live in a post scarcity world, it's just a matter of distribution which is inherently limited in capitalist society. Ok, but where are the actual arguments? All I hear from you fags is that WEW SCIENCE will magically solve every resource constraint, it will solve peak oil, climate change, pollution, limited arable land, limited non-renewables that our fucking civilization always depended on etc etc. Wishful thinking is I ever saw one.
>>1006777 >Unpopular Opinions Left Unity is possible and we are united through the ideology of Doomerism/Socialist Nihilism.
>>1012295 >All I hear from you fags is that WEW SCIENCE will magically solve every resource constraint, it will solve peak oil, climate change, pollution, limited arable land, limited non-renewables that our fucking civilization always depended on etc etc. All of these problems are solvable, but if you want to solved them while capitalists also have to make a profit, you are trying to solve this with your hands tied to your back while making a headstand and balancing a table tennis ball on a spoon you hold with your teeth. >>1012298 I don't see the reason for doomerism. It is just psychological self sabotage.
>>1008825 >This is the default take on idpol here. Support these fights but understand that they are connected to a broader class struggle. More like go bother someone else with your gay idpol shit, marxism is about class.
Voting in bourgeois elections is completely futile, yes that includes 'democratic socialists' (soc dems in disguise). There is no such thing as AES. Left unity is fucking retarded.
We would need a state dating and coop hookers program in socialism to cope with the sexual power disbalance and gender disbalance in general
Well, more of a divise opinion, but here it is: Accusing every major happening that is followed by libs of being "le malthusian plot", and thinking that they're bougie plots is getting out of hand, and reaches Jordan Peterson "THE CULTURAL MARXIST ARE EVERYWHERE" levels of schizophrenia. Lets take climate change for example. The accusation made here does in any way or form match the actual actions perpertuated by governments, on one hand you have rightwingers denounce it like they always do, and on the other neolibs swearing up and down that they are doing something... only to do either jack OR packing out the hammer they've using for years, austerity Austerity AUSTERITY. Yes, bougies ARE saddling the cost of said change to the public, but a) they always done this with everything and b) they don't even follow the theories that would allow them to justify the amount of """eugenics""" these schizophrenic accuse them. Accusation and action simply don't match. And they often forget that, yes, they have a form of class conciousness that causes the international bourg to act on some level of cooperation, but accusing US, EU, Russia and China of intentionally staging their conflicts is on the same level as claiming that WW2 was just an illusion and the holocaust was just for show put up by the Axis, Allies and USSR. Jesus H. fucking Christ, some of you sound like /pol/acks, just worshiping different sugar daddies.
>>1006777 I read only the manifesto, and a lot of wikipedia. I'm a ML and defend the USSR. I also watched a bunch of youtube.
>>1008754 Only crypto conservatives use anti-idpol to say these things are bad. The problem with idpol is not about whether we should be tolerant and egalitarian. The problem is that these topics get used to derail discussion, activities, etc by redirecting people's attention to something contentious.
Criticism of countries opposed to/targeted by imperialism does not in and of itself further imperialist goals.
A fair class system whould be better than a classless society But since there is no way yet to develop a fair socialist class system communism is the second best choice 2)the death penalty is good especially on crimes were the evidence are clear Weird and poetic ways of executions should return 3) it's OK to have large multicultural states, national self determination isn't important if their is no oppression 4)voting is a useless act but really has no negatives 5)left unity can happen but most leftist luck political skill to guide such effort
>>1012727 Is this post satire?
>>1012727 You are not welcome here succdem
>>1012100 You can only figured that shit when you actually don’t work. Boredom is the mother of all creativity.
>>1012780(me) And self-actualization.
>>1012727 there is no such thing as a fair class system tbh
>>1012727 >A fair class system Like a really tall dwarf drinking dry water on sunny night.

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