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For New Anons and Lurkers: FAQ, rules, and reading list

🚨🚨READ THIS FIRST BEFORE POSTING🚨🚨 Visual Guide for New Anons Do not put your e-mail in the e-mail field First, Please read this OP. Since we're leftists, there shouldn't be many differences ideologically, but our community has its own jargon and idiosyncrasies which might be jarring to outsiders. Second, although we allow slurs, we are anti-bigotry and it will not be tolerated. Thirdly, the board has an anti-idpol rule. Meaning that discussion of idpol topics is not allowed. There is some flexibility. Where that flexibility is also requires some time to get the feel of it. Fourthly, don't put anything in the name, or email fields. Don't doxx yourself Search the catalog before starting a new thread to avoid duplicates: If you wish to see the log of mod actions see Useful threads are often remade when expired, search the catalog if these links are broken. Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread >>719970 Market Watch >>8552 Internet General >>637502 Original Creations (Memes) >>419177 Leftypol Minecraft server >>>/games/880 (IP: it's cracked, so anyone can join without paying for minecraft) Region specific threads USA >>531727 China >>8925 British >>648706 DPRK >>9051 Brazil >>18835 Latina >>483387 Nordic >>290791 Hungarian >>117378 Russian >>652142 SEA >>705255 Italia >>747462 Germany >>698135 Australia >>537472 Leftybooru - To upload, tag, and organize images Leftypedia - A wiki project The unofficial /leftypol/ chess club >>>/games/3544 Check out our other boards >>>/anime/ >>>/edu/ >>>/hobby/ >>>/games/ >>>/tech/ As well as our comrades over at /GET/ >>>/GET/ (funposting) >>>/ref/ (international discussion) Previous archived thread filled with reading material: >>8537

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Lebanon Protests Thread

Lebanon is currently becoming a happening due to protests boiling up. Even a police was killed today. Several goverment buildings have also been stormed and occupied according to this tweet and several videos. >Another Ministry, of Energy, was just taken by protesters. So far: Ministry of Energy: Occupied Foreign Ministry: Occupied Ministry of Economy and Environment: Occupied Association of Banks HQ: Stormed What will happen next? image and videos sauce:

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>capitalism is bad and is doomed to fail >* china becomes a capitalist economy and overtakes the entire world * >actually capitalism is good under certain conditions ok

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United States Politics - /USApol/

FRATERNAL RIOT PORN WATCHING AND FRIENDLY CIRCLEJERK HERE: Thread theme: FREE RASHID BASARA 100,000 deaths edition What's Next: Democratic National Convention - August 17th Republican National Convention - August 24th Ongoing - Democratic veepstakes Now with livestreams! CNN: MSNBC: FOX: Bloomberg: Last thread >>373171

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News 8/8/20

US ex-commandos sentenced to 20 years in prison over failed attempt to depose Venezuela's Maduro Two former US military special force troopers, who were captured in a botched attempt to infiltrate Venezuela and allegedly capture President Nicolas Maduro, have been sentenced to 20 years in prison. Bolivia: Social Movements Maintain Blockades Despite Threats Bolivia's social movements and trade unions maintain blockades over 75 highways and roads throughout the country to demand democratic elections and the immediate resignation of the coup-born regime led by Jeanine Añez. Beirut explosion: Lebanon's PM calls for early elections as protests turn violent Lebanese Prime Minister Hassan Diab on Saturday evening called for early parliamentary elections in a press conference, as protests raging against the political class and deadly port explosion turned violent in central Beirut. Thousands to demonstrate today against Johnson's betrayal of front-line NHS workers THOUSANDS of health workers will mobilise alongside NHS campaigners today to express their anger over a political betrayal of the heroic efforts and sacrifices which were made during the coronavirus pandemic. Milton Castaño is the 223rd former FARC guerrilla to be killed A new attack on the fragile Colombian peace was carried out in the district of El Brilante, Valle del Cauca region, where the signatory of the Peace Agreement Milton Andrés Mesa Castaño, 36, was assassinated, apparently by firearms. Protest arrests as landlord calls time on bar beloved by Berlin's leftwing Syndikat, described by its patrons as their “second living room”, was seized by a court official on Friday morning, bringing to an end a lengthy and bitter eviction fight. German far-right suspect admits to killing pro-refugee politician A far-right extremist who is suspected of murdering regional politician Walter Lübcke confessed in court on Wednesday."I shot him," the defendant said in his hourlong statement, which was read out by his lawyer at the start of the proceedings in Frankfurt. Cuba to scrap 'too restrictive' private-sector activities list as economic pressures grow The move follows a string of measures loosening restrictions on the private sector over the past month as the government turns to limited reforms to tackle an economic crisis in the wake of key ally Venezuela’s implosion, increased U.S. sanctions and the coronavirus pandemic. Over a third of indigenous Canadians struggling to pay for essentials during pandemic The report, “Economic impact of COVID-19 among Indigenous people,” is part of a series of four studies published by Statscan in recent months that examine how indigenous Canadians have been affected by the social, economic, and health care crises brought about by COVID-19. Amazon: Fires Increase During August at an Alarming Pace According to INPE, during the firsts six days of August, there were 5.860 fires recorded, an increase of seven percent compared to the same period in 2019. However, although these are previous figures, the trend suggests that August could break records. Canada's last fully intact Arctic ice shelf collapses The ice shelf collapse on Ellesmere Island also meant the loss of the northern hemisphere’s last known epishelf lake, a geographic feature in which a body of freshwater is dammed by the ice shelf and floats atop ocean water.

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Let's address the pseud stirnerites out there It baffles me these edgelords who claim to be stirnerites but are clearly just Might-Does-Right edgelords, they think that Stirner was a moral nihilist, a materialist and that Nihilism necesarely leads towards libertine Egoism, which is a relatively common misconception, as countless philosophers have pointed out, Nihilism rejects by definition Egoism as Egoism establishes the Ego as the basis for objective morals, Nihilists don't believe in objective morals, they believe in preferences, which may be individually motivated or collectively motivated. Libertine Egoism, also called Unlightened Egoism, such as the one that Ted Bundy or Sade advocated, sees the short-term individual as the only thing that matters, which leads to please the whims of the individual. The point I'm trying to make here is that Stirnerites are Stirner's worst enemies, they ignore his real thoughts about religion and ontology, Stirner wasn't a materialist, he was a solipsist, he claimed his Ego was the only thing there is, Stirner wasn't an atheist, he was an apatheist, he doesn't care about transcendence, as transcendence is what happens once the Ego dies, Stirner wasn't a "Might-Does-Right" edgelord because he claimed that power is a spook. Some examples that come to mind of edgy pseud stirnerites are Butterfly from /lit/, who openly stated she was a Epicurean transhuman (both transhumanism and Epicureanism are not compatible with Stirnerism) or this one plebbitor. There lots of space for discussion here, let's hope the janitors don't purge this thread for wrongthinking, I'm not going to pretend edgy Stirnerites aren't annoying, cause they're, they're fucking annoying. Hegel and Nietzsche went as far as claiming the Ego was a spook, honestly I disagree and they explanations are kinda retarded. I want to start one of this threads because the discussions they start are always interesting and really make me think (unironically).

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I hate RT.

I consume a lot of various foreign media. I do this with the intent, to understand the perspective of certain governments. And usually, all news outlets which are more or less aligned to a government, present a quite coherent perspective. But not RT. OK, RT shows also the perspective of the russian government from time to time, but mostly they are just spreading misinformation. RT isn't even trying to present a coherent worldview, their main task is spreading confusion and dunking on the west. And then you will get news like: >COVID19 is fake >5G is dangerous >confederate statues are based They claim, that they want to display a "wide selection of different opinions" but we all know, that this is a lie. Their "journalism" isn't a tool to represent the russian perspective, they just want to spread chaos. As highly I'm sceptical of western mainstream media, RT doesn't even tries to present itself in a serious manner. Perhaps I'm a little bit too harsh with them, because they also make good content. But once you have realized that they see information just as a mean to forment confusion, you will automatically see their content in a different light. Did you made a similar observation?

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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Wie macht man sich am besten aktiv als Kommunist? Welchen Gruppen kann ich mich anschließen, um bedeutsam was voranzutreiben? In einem anderen Pfaden wurde schon gesagt, dass es keine Militanten kommunistischen Gruppen hier gibt, was sehr schade ist. Gibts zumindest Schützenvereine, die von Kommunisten behaust oder betrieben werden? Ungefähr wie die Nazis, die nach Tschechien fahren und sich dort mit anderen Nazis in ihren Schützenvereinen treffen. Momentan bin ich nur Teil der IYSSE.

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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!

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過労死 Karōshi - Death from overwork

What causes this phenomena? Is it just Japanese culture? Is this what happens when late stage capitalism does not do enough imperialism? Good Marxists analysis of material conditions would be greatly appreciated.

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Fred Hampton film

A trailer for a big budget hollywood movie about Fred Hampton just came out, and I'm dreading the thought of liberals appropriating everything he said despite the fact I should be use to it by now. Who wants to bet they wont even mention COINTELPRO? Also, I was wondering, that despite this most likely being an effort at co-option and definitely an effort by capitalist to profit off the struggle of a communist, is it possible to use detournemnent against such efforts in any way? For instance, even if it were just memeing against films like this as the Disney version of events, could that dissuade people from falling for the spectacle?

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Give us anti "an" cap memes to trigger ancaps

Arm the /leftypol/ with biggest arsenal of anti ancap memes please

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What are some differences in leftist ideology between the United States and other Western countries?

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/crisis/ General

DOW/Market Watch Thread
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.

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OC Thread 5.0

New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share. Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made. Archived Thread : >>8622

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Will a new hitler rise up from the ashes?

Will there be a new Adolf Hitler just around the corner or will it never happen again? Very curious?

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/IG/ Internet General

Discuss e-celebs, lefty youtube, twitter, twitch, etc. New 'actually moderated' flavour! Now with 100% less idpol guaranteed!

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what do you think of arkan?

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Fuck this guy!

It is one thing to be an anti-communist lolbert. It is another to love AKs, while spitting on the entire system, which created it. This is Brandon Herrera, a self-proclaimed AK lover or something. Please dox him. Punch him, when you get the chance. He went to a party knowing he had a Corona infection -- total scum!

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Why do porkies and their puppets seem so cartoonishly, puppy dog kickingly evil?

Like, I don't even mean just doing the shit necessary for their own self-reproduction as a class like raising surplus value extraction (which is of course another way of saying fucking someone on labor/wages even harder), I mean the specifically needless, sadistic, puppy-dog kicking shit. I'm talking about shit like half of these fuckers being kiddie diddlers and various sex pests. I'm talking about shit like interrogators in Abu Ghraib raping young boys in front of their mothers as one of their worst torture methods. Most of the ideology of white supremacy. The fucking Holocaust, killing the planet, creating a violent ass decadent culture. Why do porkies and their state actor puppets come off as bloody Saturday morning cartoon villains?

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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion

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Trump Will Ban Tencent and TikTok in 45 Days

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Democratic Socialism

Who actually coined this idiotic term? And does it actually make any sense to label yourself as a "Democratic Socialist"? The term was obviously invented, to distance yourself from the evil stalinist regimes like Sovjet Union and China etc. But I mean, do you really believe that you can impress the average joe by telling him: "Oh it wasn't real socialism! But I'm a DEMOCRATIC socialist!" Beside that, there are already actually existing examples of "Democratic Socialism", such as the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka or the ruling party of the Philippines, the PDP-Laban which is led by Rodrigo Duterte. So, why aren't the people from DSA or DIE LINKE supporting their comrades from south asia?

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what do the german anons here think of the german democratic republic ?

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Lefty Org General - /lfg/

So I made a CPUSA thread in the past, and I saw we have a FRSO thread on here. I'm pretty sure, also, that the IWW has made some kinda presence on /leftypol/ To avoid the bloat of different (usually American) based parties all making their own threads, I'd figure it'd be for the best to have a general thread for leftist organizations to inform people of general goings on, to recruit, and collaborate on shared projects. Organization Sites >CPUSA >FRSO >PSL >IWW >NABPP >SEP Organization News >People's World (CPUSA Affiliated) >World Socialist Website (SEP Affiliated) >Industrial Worker (IWW Affiliated) >Rashid's Writings (NABPP Affilliated) >Fight Back News (FRSO Affiliated) Suggestions? Honestly, I don't want this to remain an American exclusive thread, though I suspect /leftypol/ gets no small amount of traffic from the U.S. If there's any other, international parties who have members posting on here, I'd love to add them. I'm also open to adding new elements to the OP, right now I'm just linking sites + party news, but I figure we could maybe have a general summary of what each party is up to, or their tendency, or what have you. Don't be afraid to comment with suggestions! This thread isn't for me, but the whole of /leftpol/

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Debunking Libertarian Arguments

I'm looking for more and more arguments against shitholes like the "USSR calculation problems" and Bhom Bhawerk obselete and wrong analysis

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Haitian Massacres of 1804.

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//leftybritpol// - Tears of the Welsh Landlord edition

Fuck the landlords, fuck the landlords.

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AusCom General

Do we have many Australians on /leftypol/? Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if not, this country is beyond reactionary.

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Marxist-Leninist Self-Critique

Hey everyone. This thread if for self-critique and analysis of things that went wrong with ML states. How could we do better next time? What causes revisionism? Was the USSR doomed from the start? Why has China transformed into a mega capitalist nation? Pls no bait shit. Trotskyists welcome as long as they don't shit up the thread with muh stalin bad shit.

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The webm thread slid off the board and it's all your fault.

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Why are/were working-class jobs used as punishment?

In many/most socialist states, party bureaucrats who stepped out of line were consigned to work "shitty" jobs instead of high-status ones. Why would this happen in a worker's state? Full disclosure, I am a righty who is steadily moving left towards Marxism, but there seem to be some contradictions.

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Redpill me. How do they rank in terms of contemporary socialist states?

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The USA is rioting - /BÜRGERKRIEG/

Remember that our official bunker is , we also have an official chat to keep in touch with the mod team and you can use , maintained by members of the community, to continue chatting and following the happenings even if Bunkerchan goes down. There have been rodney king tier riots in Minneapolis since George Floyd was killed. What is /leftypol/'s opinion? Updated FRATERNAL RIOT PORN WATCHING AND FRIENDLY CIRCLEJERK HERE: (Or this one ) Location of protests all over the US: DONATE TO HELP ARRESTED PROTESTORS Hasn't confirmed if it is 100% legit so do some background checks before doing so Tip if you are joining Flags are SUPER FUCKING USEFUL. I stood next to a girl with a megaphone who was telling people instructions, and having a flag next to her seriously helped bring people along. I stood on street corners and used the flag to help people see where the group had turned when the group fled the flashbangs. GET A FLAG, MAKE IT BIG My flag was 2 yards long of red broadcloth that doesn't even have clean edges that I superglued to a collapsible stick. It doesn't need to be pretty, it doesn't need to be amazing. Notice on doxxing: We know that the world is litterally falling apart and Jair Bolsonaro got doxxed. But on the offchance that capitalist civilization doesn't disintegrate, posting doxxing info or direct links to it is still not allowed as per site rules. Sorry. Archive Remember to archive everything you see. Things get censored, taken down, removed. Anon's drive with a load of videos ready to share outside the bunker:!AlhTIZtHNCxynhvzP1bpKPSJpCE9?e=NHs7w8

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answer for homeless/lumpens

So, obviously getting rid of the causes of homelessness (an unequitable capitalist society that causes people trauma and discards them) is the true answer. But what do we do when there's already a problem, and we already have people whose minds are gone? Do we just let them shoot up and shit in the streets like sentimental libs suggest? What's the socialist/class-conscious answer here? Giving them homes/jobs unconditionally? TBH I think most of these people will refuse any external efforts to change their lives.

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/Beardtube/ Growing Thread

Hello comrades, As you can see i made this thread with the purpose of helping growing the so called Beardtube milieu of channels (The term is basically a proxy to say Marxist adjacent/Marxist Youtube channels). I'm asking the mods to keep this distinct from /IG/ if anything because I'd like this thread to be a place for small comrade channels to grow and also because /IG/ includes also non Marxist left content discussion. That said, I will leave down there a partial list of Marxist and Marx-adjacent channels to follow if interested in those kind of contents on Youtube. Here's the list: Okay here we go The Beardtube list : -/Leftypol/ videos -Anticonquista -Austrian_Maoist1 -azureScapegoat -BayArea415 -Benji -BigBreadBrainz -CommunistPartyUsa -Comrade Pierre Tru-Dank -Comrade Rhys -DANOV -Damon Garcia -Dankey Kang -DemocraticSocialist01 -Dialectical Vegan Egoist -Ewoks Unhinged -FRSOorg -Fellow Traveler -GentleGinjeet -Hakim -halim alrah -IanWright -InDefenseOfToucans -Irish Socialist Republicans -Jason Unruhe -Kelly Zahos -Leaflets -Left of Wreckage -Leftism Today -LiberationNews -Luna Oi -Micheal Roberts economist -Animarchy -Neo Jacobin -Paul Cockshott -Paul Morrin -Polinkazh -Premier Liles -ProSocialism -Prolekult -ProletarianU -RayRamses -RedScareTv -Redfish -Richard Medhurst -Soapbox -Socialism: 101 -Socialism For All -Socialist Voice -Space Babies -Spooky Scary Socialist -Swoletariat -Taimur Rahman -Tankie Talk -The Grayzone -The Flame of Liberation -The Swoletariat -The Red Phoenix -TheFinnishBolshevik -TheMarxistProject -ToddMcGowan -Tovarishch Endymion -UnderstandingPower -Viki1999 -Weeb Revolution -YazMinsky

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Capitalist "innovation"

Post them.

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/brg/ - Brazil General

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The 2014 syndrome

Will internet political discourse ever return to pre - 2014 levels? What made it go downhill so fast? The turning point was probably gamergate but there had to be other factors. What could be the next turning point? Many agree that it was the last normal year on the internet. Even apolitical people. This is an extremely interesting phenomenon that isworth thinking about.

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Marxism and Anarchism are pretty different in some aspects I know, but the goals are the same very often (abolition of capitalism, ending slavery of men to men ecc). Ignoring the existence of a true (and little) anarchist movement in China in the early 1920, the experience of the chinese soviets before and after the Long March could be interpreted as a revolution conducted by libertarian and egualitarian communities against the bourgeoise regime of the militarist Kuomintang post-Sun Yat-sen's death. Abolition of taxes, abolition of hierarchies, redistribution and collectivisation from the bottom of economy, struggle against the oppressive old chinese culture... many funny things very socialist ideologically but also very (social) libertarian economically. Including also that Mao was close to the anarchist philosophy in young age, why we can't discuss about "anarcho-maoism"? p.s. I'm drunk

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What do you guys make of the new George Floyd video

Reddit reactionaries are screeching about how its going to btfo the Left, but I don't really see it to be fair. It literally shows nothing new. Either way I can't wait for the happenings if Chauvin gets acquitted. Don't know if I can link the video because Reddit, but it's literally everywhere.

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Que piensan de los gobiernos de la 'marea rosa', creo que tengo una opinion vagamente positiva, o sea, aca en Argentina pararon de enviar gente a la escuela de las americas (gracias a dios) y nacionalizaron varias empresas que, bueno, eh, ayudaron a privatizar en los 90, pero bueno, eso es otra historia, Por que creen que 'perdieron' o sea ademas de lo obvio como los golpes en Brazil y Bolivia o sus sucesores volviendose neoliberales como Lenin Moreno Estan volviendo? yo lei cosas sobre AMLO que no me dejaron muy entusiasmado, pero bueno, supongo que cualquier cosa es mejor que el PRI Alguno de ustedes leyo este libro, yo abri una pagina cualquiera y me encontre con una descripcion del hacinamiento de los mineros Bolivianos, y como fifaban en las mismas habitaciones en las que estaban sus hijos, y me dio cosita.

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Не нашёл - создал! Ну что там по поправкам: кто за бойкот и кто против? Каналы: - РабКор - канал главного марксиста всея Руси Бориса «Каги» Кагарлицкого. - Николай Платошкин - самый энергичный и брутальный персонаж левой политической сцены в России. Сторонник активных избирательных компаний и узник совести. - Константин Сёмин - журналист, очень сильно разочаровавшийся в Путине и его режиме. Теперь он коммунист, вскрывающий и освещающий проблемы современной капиталистической России. - Простые числа - канал Олега Комолова, где он популярно освещает вопросы экономики. - New Deal- канал популяризатора полиэтокономии и ММТ Даниила Григорьева. - Плохой Сигнал он же Tubus Show он же Егор Иванов- историк-любитель, скрупулёзно и достоверно разбирающий антисоветскую пропаганду. - Вестник Бури - канал интернет журнала. Лицо канала и журнала- Андрей Рудой, учитель, профсоюзный деятель, агитатор и пропагандист. - Вестник Бури Originals - Даниил Тишкун, контент тот же - по простому о марксизме и коммунизме, роликов поменьше. Объединяет их с Андреем работа на онлайн журнал с общим названием.

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Soviet-Finnish Winter War

Opinions about this war? My grandma is Finnish and her father fought in the war so it has always been a point of pride in my family. Any Finns here? How do Finns view the Winter War nowadays? Also, what are their opinions on this guy (pic related)?

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Redpill me on Oswald, was he /ourguy/?

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right wing conspiracy theory

what is the most stupid conspiracy theory you have ever faced?

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ITT: hiding your powerlevel from friends/coworkers

>haha of course i'm just an ordinary demsoc bro, i was just kidding earlier >egoist anarcho-posadist with transhumanist characteristics? nah haha, i just wanted to see the look on your face

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Socialist clothing/LARPing

I've been want to get myself some commie clothing, any recommendations? Preferably not something too over the top so that I can occasionally go out to wear in public when I feel brave enough. If you already own one do post with pictures.

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How would a communist society approach preventing obesity as well promote proper eating and exercise habits?

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So what exactly is wrong with market socialism? The only people on the left that are putting forth reasonable propositions in the American left are the Matt Bruenig & James Medlock types. Literally everyone else is either an unhinged anarchoLARPer or a "knock on doors & do the work and we'll get communism one Brooklyn district at a time" utopian.

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New political test

There is a new site called political simulator where you can find out your political position by simulating government structure Here is mine made bellow

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why can't planned economies compete with free market capitalism

Seriously, what makes free market capitalism so powerful?

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Capital Study Guide

In this thread, I will go over Marxist Economist Harry Cleaver's study guide to reading capital. Cleaver was/is a retired american Marxist economist. I think he's some sort of autonomist or something. He's also the author of the book 'reading capital politically' which covers similar themes. I will go over and post my reactions to this work in order and quote it. since the catalog is low on theory heavy threads (other than the cybersoc thread) I figure this will be a good addition

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Online Leftist University

I'm not talking about an actual university but something more like Khan Academy for theory, something that has gameified teaching of theory in an online format (VOD). I've noticed most "leftist online universities" tend to be based on some livestreams or things like left forum where its just a panel of people speaking. I'm talking about presentation of hardcore left wing economic, political, and philosophical theory in a khan academy like VOD format with some multiple choice quizzes or something and achievements so people feel like they're advancing. This will incentivize people to learn theory. It could have forums etc. for people to also discuss the works, and a comments section underneath parts of the course ideally it could eventually even have celebrity lecturers like Wolff, Cockshott etc. who have actual experience as college profs. We could give the equivalent of a college+advanced degree education in left theory to everyone, for free. Unlike udemy and other MOOC courses, it would be completely free. anyone think this is a good idea??

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Real Talk about the Uighurs

Hello, I wanted to have this topic seperate from the China topic because I know it will be contentious. I feel that there is too much evidence of Chinese uigurs being arbitrarily imprisoned and 're-educated' for it to all be made up. There are videos of prisoner transfers, videos from inside camps, extensive testimonies from victims, and so on. I am willing to be proven wrong but realistically can we deny that something fucked up is happening? Just because it's convenient for America for it to be true doesn't mean it isn't. That said, I don't want to just bicker, I'd like to see evidence from both sides. Thanks.

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How do I understand Marxist economics FAST?

I've tried reading Das Kapital multiple times and every time I don't even make it past chapter 1, it's simply too boring and verbose for me to properly grasp it in a short amount of time. Are there any sorts of lectures or books out there that can give me a good enough grasp of Marxist economics in a short amount of time so that I can engage properly with other Marxist works and not get lost in the definitions?

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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Volume 3: Shit king and hilarious elections edition. Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess. Last threads

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Raiding and Strategy: Leftypol

Contrary to the popular belief of /pol/ and everyone else leftypol generally doesn't raid as a board (outside 1 or two autists who do it on their own). The only instance in recent history (or ever in my memory) is that one time leftypol raided / mass flagged in response to /pol/ taking down batko's channel. The vast majority of so-called "leftypol" posters on /pol/ or wherever are just paranoid fascists calling each other antifa or whatever. >inb4 not your personal army However, I will state now that I am of the opinion that leftypol should raid - and not just other imageboards but youtube/twitch livestreams, and once we get big enough hopefully try to influence trending topics on twitter (this probably requires at least 1k+ users at a minimum though). If you look at cuckchan /pol/ they come up with all sorts of strategies like this and 90% of them fail. Granted they aren't the force they used to be in politics back in 2016/17 and before, but still. The reason previous attempts at raiding failed is because it was against 4chan/pol/ which has waaay to big of numbers to be heard (like tens of thousands vs 12 autists from here). Leftypol should begin by first: 1. creating tons of agitprop memes remixed with classic /leftypol/ figures such as porky, etc. Download whatever you can from the leftypol booru and make some remixed agitprop raiding memes. (feel free to post here). Brand with either or . 2. Raiding smaller targets - while leftypol is small compared to cuckchan, its still the biggest "alt chan" community. So raiding and/or colonizing smaller imageboards could be feasible in order to grow the flock. every week we should launch an operation to flood a small time imageboard with branded leftypol agitprop to slowly draw in people. In this way we can make /leftypol/ notorious again. any other suggestions/comments?

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Uighurs and china and genocide, oh my

what's the deal with uighurs, I thought china was doing genocide or something but I hear that's not true, also while we're at it, dafuq's the deal with isreal, I'm aware they're asshole to palestinians, but is there anything else?

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Nearly half of Germans in favor of US military withdrawal: survey Some 47% of survey respondents said they supported reducing the number of US soldiers in Germany. One in four was in favor of all US soldiers leaving.Just 28% thought the number of US troops should remain the same and only 4% were in favor of increasing their numbers. Germany: Right-wing terror in Erfurt In the night of August 1, three men from Guinea were brutally attacked by neo-Nazis in Erfurt and had to be taken to hospital. One of them, a 21-year-old youth, suffered such severe head injuries that his condition was still considered “critical” days later; he is still in hospital. Armed man holds people hostage in France’s Le Havre, reports claim he demands ‘free passage to Al Aqsa Mosque for Palestinians’ An armed man has taken several people hostage at a bank in Normandy, France. Media say he’s demanding that Israel free “unjustly imprisoned Palestinian children” and let Palestinians under 40 into the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. As Lebanese Crowd Chants 'Revolution,' France's President Macron Sets September 1 Deadline for 'New Political Pact' France's President Emmanuel Macron was greeted by a swarm of Lebanese calling for "revolution" and for the "fall of the regime" that has been governing their country for decades, as he arrived in Beirut on Thursday following the Tuesday port explosion that left more than 140 dead. Mexico: People Demand ‘Justice and Memory’ for Missing Persons In Mexico, the missing persons' relatives Wednesday performed a "Walk for Memory and Justice", a demonstration that asks President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) for answers on the disappearance of over 73,000 people in the country. Colombia's Ex-President Uribe Is Put Under House Arrest, Catches Coronavirus Uribe has gone from kingmaker to detainee after the country's Supreme Court on Tuesday ordered that he be placed under house arrest. Then, on Wednesday, Colombian media reported that he had tested positive for the coronavirus. Ministers exercising ‘complete indifference’ to renters facing mass homelessness With just three weeks left before landlords can once again kick out tenants, renters’ unions warned yesterday that ministers have failed to put measures in place to prevent a “tsunami” of evictions. Danish party calls for free face masks for low-income groups Given the high cost of buying face masks, people with lower incomes should be given them for free, the Red Green Alliance said.“We think that face masks should be made available for low income groups. It must be possible more them to afford to take public transport too,” the party’s transport spokesperson Peder Hvelplund said to DR. Bolivian health workers start hunger strike in protest over pay and lack of equipment HEALTH workers in Bolivia have gone on hunger strike in protest at low pay and a lack of medicine and equipment to treat the country’s growing number of Covid-19 patients.Staff at the Palos Blancos Health Centre near the capital La Paz declared on Monday that they were forgoing food as they accused the country’s coup administration of ignoring them. Russia's Coronavirus Cases Surpass 870K Russia confirmed 5,267 new coronavirus infections Thursday, bringing the country’s official number of cases to 871,894.Over the past 24 hours 116 people have died, bringing the total toll to 14,606 — a rate considerably lower than in many other countries hit hard by the pandemic.

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Stalin: >ruled for 25 years over a territory of 22,402,200 km2 >population under his rule: 150million in 1927 - 196million before WW2 >average population number under his rule: 173 000 000 >3.3 million excess deaths under his rule (executions, gulags, etc. not counting the holo and the domor) >math: 173,000,000 / 3,300,000 = 52.42 Every 52th citizen died under Stalin. >Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths (TATAED - a term I just made up, measured in metric units of "horror") >math: (every citizen dieded + time) * horror constant [100,000] / territory = (25+52) * 100,000 / 22,402,200 = 0.3437 TATAED: 0.34 horror, or 34 centihorror Anarchist Catalonia: >(un)ruled for 3 whole years over a territory of 32,108 km2 >average population under their (un)rule: 2.8million >excess deaths (executions, gulags, etc.) between 38000 and 72344, average: 55000 >math: 2,800,000 / 55,000 = 50.9 Every 51th citizen died under anarchism. >Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths: (3+51)*100000/32,108 = 168.1823 TATAED: 168.18 horror, or 1.6 hectohorror >Stalin TATAED / Catalan TATAED = 168.18 / 0.34 = 494.64 QED: Anarchist Catalonia was 495 times more horrific than Stalin's USSR. BRB, I'm off to measure the Workers Sent to Space (WS2S) to population ratio...

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HAPPENING: Israel and Hazbollah CLASH along Lebanese Border

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Starting with this decade will this century be worse than the last one?

The Twenty-First Century is looking pretty fucking bleak at this point

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why is finland considered less ideal than china by marxists?

be honest bros, if marx were alive, he'd consider finland to closer to his ideal socialist state than the gdr or china or whatever?

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Esoteric Hitlerism General: Satanic Nazis

This is all the evidence we put together in the last thread, in order, for any newcomers. I'm gonna add in a few bits for context as well and lines of enquiry without sources that we might want to pursue Evidence: >leader of neo nazi group "the base" a fed >various themes involving the alt right, their connections to the intelligence services, and the esoteric hitlerist connections in both, alongside pedophile connections > a video describing the Order of the Nine Angles >videos of 09A ritual stuff >AWD Pedo Cop with probable links to esoteric groups >National Socialist Underground >Regarding the nine murders of migrants with the same weapon, the investigations focused almost exclusively on the victims and their alleged and actually non-existent ties to organized crime, the “Turkish mafia”, drug dealing, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and so on. In the murder cases where police investigated the possibility that these acts might have been committed for right-wing motives, they did so in a very superficial manner and leads in this direction were hardly ever followed up. >The same pattern can be seen in the investigations of the bomb attacks. In all three cases, which the police did not regard as connected, the police looked for suspects close to the victims or in connection with organized crime, and neo-Nazi suspects were never seriously considered. In the case of the bomb attack in Keupstraße in Cologne, the police denied the terrorist character of the attack and yet again the bombing was attributed to organized crime. This denial contradicted internal analysis of the secret service and the police considering a racist motive. >Most of the 15 robberies were believed to be connected as the offenders were always two young men fleeing the crime scene on bikes. But no connection was ever made between the robberies and the murders and/or bombings, despite the fact that many witnesses had seen two young men with bikes close to the scene of the respective crimes. >Marx Dutroux connection >One of the leaders of the Belgian pedophile ring was Benoit de Bonvoisin [13] [48], who was associated with several secret services. [13²] According to various sources, he held a high position at Gladio, these statements are corroborated by the fact that during a house search, which he carried out in 1990, a draft for a strategy of tension was found. This strategy paper included (supposedly random) attacks on supermarkets. >09A causes a split in atomwaffen >Grant Bistow >Nazis being covered up for by german intelligence again

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#BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein confidante, British socialite and heiress Ghislaine Maxwell, has been arrested by the FBI

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a friend of mine asked me to suggest him some books about stalin when i defended him that made me realise i didnt read shit about stalin aswell any suggestions?

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The Second /leftypol/ policy survey

This is the thread for the polls that were discussed over the last day in >>747104 These are the links to all the individual polls: Preferred means of achieving revolution (multiple choice): Preferred economic policy short-term: Preferred economic policy long-term: Preferred government structure short-term: Preferred government structure long-term: Preferred military service: Military service you would still be OK with using: Military structure you approve (multiple choice): Preferred model of state security: State security you would still be OK with using: Preferred media control: Control of media you would still be OK with using: Freedom of artistic expression : Be sure to try and vote on them all! Note, if you can't use Strawpoll, write in your answers in this thread. PS If vols could be so kind, might this thread be pinned for a day or so? mod edit: While we'll keep this thread pinned for a few days to give this initiative better visibility this doesn't mean those polls are officially endorsed by the moderation team. Feel free to ignore it if you're not interested in taking part in this.

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News 8/7/20

Bolivia's Coup-Born Regime to Deploy Troops to Quell Protests Bolivia's Interior Minister Arturo Murillo Thursday threatened with police and military intervention in the demonstrations that social organizations are carrying out throughout the country since last Monday. Kim visits North Korea flood zone, orders shelter, food aid It’s rare for Kim to visit a flood-stricken site. The last time state media reported such a visit was in September 2015, when he inspected recovery work at a flood-hit northeast city, according to Seoul’s Unification Ministry. Lebanese plan major protest and UN agencies call for aid after Beirut blast Angry Lebanese are planning a major protest in central Beirut on Saturday where they will pay respects to those killed in this week’s blast and renew calls to overthrow the country’s political system. U.S. Spams Russians With Texts Offering Rewards for Election Meddling Info News of the SMS messages came after U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the $10 million reward in an attempt to prevent foreign interference in the November vote, pointing to efforts by "Russia and other malign actors." Russia warns it will see any incoming missile as nuclear Russia will perceive any ballistic missile launched at its territory as a nuclear attack that warrants a nuclear retaliation, the military warned in an article published Friday.The harsh warning in the official military newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star) is directed at the United States, which has worked to develop long-range non-nuclear weapons. Uribe And Duque Are Linked To Drug Cartels, Arreaza Says Venezuela’s Foreign Affairs Minister Jorge Arreaza Thursday revealed information linking Colombia’s former president Alvaro Uribe and President Ivan Duque with the Sinaloa Cartel.Arreaza revealed images of Samuel Niño, a pilot steward of both Duque and Uribe’s trust, who died while trafficking cocaine from Colombia to Mexico. PKK leader Öcalan’s jail restrictions not acceptable, says anti-torture group Restrictions placed on outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) leader Abdullah Öcalan and a few other inmates at Turkey’s İmrali prison are not acceptable, the Council of Europe's anti-torture committee said on Wednesday. ‘One of the most difficult decisions’: UK won't renew furlough program beyond October despite warnings of massive job losses Under the program, which launched in April, employers can apply for grants to cover more than half of the wages of employees they were forced to furlough because of the lockdown. The scheme was later renewed until October 31 and has helped to retain 9.6 million jobs, according to government data. Social housing ‘facing extinction’ under government's sweeping reforms Under proposals in the planning for the future white paper, the government intends to scrap section 106 agreements and the community infrastructure levy, legislation which delivers 50 per cent of the country’s affordable housing. India surges past 2 million coronavirus cases, angry health workers launch a strike India, the country hardest hit in Asia by the coronavirus pandemic, reported on Friday a record daily jump in infections, taking its total number of cases over two million, as government struggled to contain the spread amid striking health workers.

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Starting a new /cybersocialism/ general since the old one is dead MANDATORY READING For a complete reading list, see: cockshott's website reading list is down, the only place you can see it now is on Cockshott's Patreon Cockshott's youtube channel Cockshott's Blogs This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT Prev thread >>290148 Archive of thread

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Thread about Social Democracy, /leftypol/ tell me your arguments against social democracy and why it's bad. I am just really curious because it seems to be working in countries that have tried it and generally have actually improved the life quality and satisfaction of their citizens, >Rosa Luxembourg Okay, But this happened in the past and doesn't reflect current attitudes of social democrats nowadays. I haven't met a single social democrat who thinks Rosa getting killed was a good thing or she deserved it. Pretty dumb to hang onto a single event in history that doesn't even reflect the greater view of socdems nowadays. I can very much make the argument that Marxist-Leninists are bolshevik backstabbers because Stalin killed most of the bolshevik guys who were part of the Russian civil war. Well anyway so this is just a straw man. >Capitalism with a welfare state\ Not true, this is what left-liberalism is not social democracy. This is especially the case if you look at history. The socdems in Sweden, Norway, Germany definitely wanted to transcend into a post-capitalist economy/future. Take the Social Democratic party of germany or whatever: or even the 2013 swedish social democrats, Swedish Social Democrats say in their 2013 platform that their ideology is democratic socialism and explicitly call social democracy anticapitalist ideology. In 1944 the Social Democrats (SAP) ran on the 27-point program which proposed a socialist economy. The SAP proposed nationalization of foreign trade & finance: Starting in 1945 the Social Democrats nationalized important industries:(See Pic 1 & Pic 2). Not to mention, that in 1938 the lotteries followed by the railways in 1939 were nationalized. In 1944 part of the arms industry was nationalized as an enterprise called FFV Sweden's single-payer healthcare system was set up in 1955, expropriating healthcare. Or even Take Olaf Palme for example the guy definitely was on keen on transforming Sweden into a socialist society however he didn't and failed but it was generally a political failure rather than an economic one. (Check out the meidner plan).

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What are your thoughts on legalism and how do you think it's compatible with socialism?

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fascist masculinity vs communist masculinity

I don't have pics on me, but when you look at fascist and soviet depictions of an ideal man there's a serious difference, I wanna discuss it.

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Personal attacks on the rich

bumplocked: social conservatism. I want to start/suggest a campaign on pointing out personal/private life faults and crimes of the upper class to de-mythify their aristocratic status and enrage the wit of workers. For example. >promiscuity >inmodest clothing >nightclub attendance >use of drugs if we accuse the rich of this social crimes,their feudalistic-noble status will be demolished and the workers will be invigorated

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News 8/5/20

New North Korea ICBM Report Suggests Pyongyang Can Hit U.S. With Nukes The confidential UN report shows that several unnamed nations agree that North Korea has "probably developed miniaturized nuclear devices to fit into the warheads of its ballistic missiles." Secret documents reveal Saudi policies in Yemen since 2011 Saudi secret documents published by Al Jazeera revealed that the kingdom's strategy in Yemen has been based on dividing the country through supporting various entities instead of the state.Some of the 162 pages of documents date back to a sensitive period prior to the start of the war in Yemen in 2015. Philippines Maoists claim success against mining company project. The guerilla New People’s Army (NPA) announced details on Monday of its recent sniping operations against troops — part of its bid to stop the project’s development.It claimed to have left three soldiers dead and one wounded during its attacks on their camps in Samar province. Fascist networks in German police and military issue new death threats The best-known case is of the lawyer Seda Basay-Yildiz, whose secret address was accessed on a police computer in Frankfurt. The lawyer, who represented some of the victims of the far-right National Socialist Underground (NSU) terrorist group, received a death threat several days later signed NSU 2.0. 200,000+ left homeless in Beirut as city is ‘devastated’ by shock blast, governor explains Up to 300,000 people in Beirut have been left without a home after the deadly explosion that ripped through a large part of the Lebanese capital on Tuesday, the governor of the city said. India’s residency law in Kashmir amplifies demographic fears Under a new law, authorities have begun issuing “domicile certificates” to Indians and non-residents, entitling them to residency rights and government jobs. Many Kashmiris view the move as the beginning of settler colonialism aimed at engineering a demographic change in India’s only Muslim-majority region. Chile: United Nations "Alarmed" at Racism Against Mapuches The regional office for South America of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights urged on Tuesday for a dialogue over the ongoing violence and acts of racism towards the Mapuche people following the fierce confrontations in the Araucanía region during last weekend. Factories supplying ‘biggest names in fashion’ using Covid as an excuse to smash unions The Business and Human Rights Resource Centre found that more than 4,870 unionised garment workers had been dismissed by nine factories supplying nine major fashion brands including H&M, Primark and Levi Strauss & Co. UK facing ‘potential brain drain’ as emigration to EU countries soars 30% since Brexit vote, new study shows Analysis by a joint research team consisting of an Oxford-in-Berlin partnership and the WZB Social Science Centre, also in Berlin, has found that migration from the UK to EU states rose by an average of 73,642 a year between 2016 and 2018. In stark contrast, the average between 2008-2015 was 56,832 people a year, according to the researchers. Bolsonaro's Chief of Staff Tests Positive for COVID-19 "The minister is fine and asymptomatic," the Staff of the Presidency reported and explained that Braga Neto, 63, “will remain isolated until further medical tests and evaluations are performed. Until then, it will continue to fulfill its agenda remotely."

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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

Thread dedicato al paese con il popolo più analfabeta e la borghesia più ignorante d'Europa, dove ci sono più partiti comunisti che comunisti stessi. In un modo o nell'altro, cerchiamo di riprenderci il paese e il futuro che Confindustria ci ha rubato insieme ai suoi servi. Foreign comrades are welcome. Previous thread: >>19862

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Thread for discussing the revolutionary potential of the lumpen, and how important they are and how we should be focusing on them a lot more >Talking to the left now, like can you just stop ignoring this enormous source of revolutionary potential, both in theory, practice, and your language when describing the proletariat as the worker, which you're always talking about the worker, even Karl Marx is saying, "Workers of the world, unite" and it honestly just grinds my gears and makes me sick and makes me angry, you should be sick and angry and you need to stop talking about the worker, because the workers are not the masses, they're the most submissive, docile, they're worse than the hamster in a cage, they're a hamster in the pet shop, they haven't even got the freedom of their own cage. So, stop, stop focusing on the fucking workers so much, let them deal with the trade unions. >If you're a revolutionary focus on the lumpen, because these are the lads who are willing to fight, once they wake up once they get class consciousness, these are the lords of the people, these are the people with the revolutionary power and intent. I'm convinced, once we educate, once we support them, when they're gonna bring out all the blades, not to attack each other, when they're gonna bring out all the straps not to attack each other but to attack the system that's oppressing us all, you workers are not gonna do that, ever, that's why you have to be talking about the lumpen, you just have to focus on them, and you need to get on your hands and your knees and you need to start begging THEM to help out, you need to start seriously thinking about it. I can't be the only one doing this but I've never ever seen any other, anybody else ever seriously focus on this and speak directly to them, to the masses

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GDR 1953 Strike

What the hell happened? I'm not trying to start some anti-Communist Left shit flinging, but I don't know if you can justify the government response to working class demands. Sounds alarmingly similar to what U.S. backed rightoids did to labor unions and striking workers... >strike starts because of demands from government to increase productivity by 10% with no wage increase or benefits >rising prices in health care, public transportation, food is scarce, people are unhappy >Soviets and GDR respond by firing on striking workers, arresting thousands and executing 40~ people What the fuck. I'm a ML but I'm no cultist, this is really hard to defend or justify. I was under the impression our goal was to liberate the working class not arrest and execute them for being rightfully angry.

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IP Laws, Copyright Infringement, Plagiarism

Were those things even exist nowadays? Is it really matter? How about surplus value that had been stolen for eternity?

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Josip Broz Tito appreciation thread

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ITT: most retarded anticommunist "arguments"

For me as someone who lives in a post-Soviet country the most brainlet and anti-reality argument has got to be "COMMUNISM IS ANTI-CULTURE" My family still has shelves with 100s of books they got in the USSR, real books like obscure classical works or science ones. You CAN'T find most of them in stores anymore because they have been replaced with lowest common denominator schlock like 50 shades of grey or cheap fantasy novels. You have to go to a specialized library to find books you could buy at any bookstore in the USSR. Little surprise that the USSR used to be "the most reading country". Socialism built and supported theaters, museums, cinemas etc and most importantly it made them available to the entire population instead of a small leisurely elite. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call the USSR the most cultured country in history if the criteria is the total number of people with access to "high culture" like classical music and theater. Don't even get me started on Soviet contributions to the art world like Prokofiev, Tarkovsky etc. Classical arts were preserved and promoted, folk culture was supported too. The only culture socialism "destroyed" was religion and culture of the ruling classes like decadent balls. That's what reactionaries truly bemoan. It doesn't matter that 99% of the population went from ignorant peasants to educated people who can appreciate intellectual and aesthetic pursuits, a few nobles couldn't have their shitty dances and lavish palaces all to themselves anymore, so CULTURE WAS LITERALLY DESTROYED!!11 You'd have to be completely ignorant of history and reality to say "socialism is anti-culture", or be a lying reactionary who by "culture" means "when you praise Jesus and kill nigs". It's especially annoying to hear this from Russian right-wing zoomers who know nothing but fortnite and low-brow americanized tv entertainment, and somehow blame socialism for this state of affairs instead of capitalist restoration.

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Russia in the 90's

I don't know much about it, so how bad did things get in Russia (and the rest of the Soviet states) after the fall of the USSR in 1992?

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Is this getting interesting? Opinions on that? They seem pretty determined to fight this fight and go all in with a general strike

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growing the site

there is no reddit migration >>704301 Everyone complains about muh reddit/stupidpol/chapocel migration. There is virtually none. The stats don't lie. Bunkerchans population is only going up by like 1 new poster a month total. It's possible a bunch of oldfags are leaving at the same time as new posters are coming but it's unlikely. there is no significant migration of redditors or other /pol/fags or whatever, its mainly the same old people who have probably been using leftypol since 2017 circlejerking and calling each other cia/reddit over minor differences and shitposts. how to grow the site If anyone has suggestions on how to increase the userbase id be all ears

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Bernie Sanders, Useful Idiot of Imperialism

There are many people who consider themselves left wing who are now in the same chorus as the most disgusting ghouls from the US state department on the topic of China. Many of them are e-celebrities or small journalists (such as Jacobin) with a platform to not only spread american propaganda on groups like Hezbollah and countries like Syria, Iran, Venezuela and China, but to bash others into submission for not accepting the claims or the obvious comparisons to the last billion times we've been presented with such unsubstantiated claims, even down to the same methods of dispersal. These left neocon types have always been around of course, but it is indisputable that Bernie Sanders greatly contributed to the popularity of this online left wing neocon culture, including the content creators and journalists. There are certainly careers in existence now that wouldn't have been created if it weren't for Bernie Sanders. And the vast majority of these left wing neocons got into leftism, or at least found popularity in left circles, through Bernie's presidential runs. And the majority of them have not strayed far from the philosophy behind him. What is the foreign policy philosophy of Sanders? Whenever he was asked about socialism he was quick to denounce all successful instances of socialism. He was quick to walk back his miniscule compliments towards Cuba and China and he even attacked Mike Bloomberg for saying nice things about China. And when criticising Saudi Arabia he uses them as a comparison to these places as though they're at all similar. His and his neocon FP advisor Matt Duss had the foreign policy of "authoritarianism and libertarianism" which entirely plays into the new paradigm of imperialism and the new "great power competition" plans of the CIA - reduce focus on the middle east for a conflict with china and russia. The Bernie strategy simply adds the caveat "oh and we'll mildly punish saudi arabia and israel or something because they're authoritarian like china is." So it really is no surprise to see people most associated with the Bernie movement now increase their campaign against "tankies" and "dengists" who don't accept the evidence of Adrien Zenz and the epoch times. Bernie hasn't just shepherded people into an imperialist party who might have evolved past electoral politics, he's formed these people ideologically into being left neocons, or at least to be far more receptive to left neoconism.

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USA and national oppression

What are your thoughts on the calls for national liberation and self-determination for the Black Belt, Aztlan, First Nations etc? And please no one call this 'Sakaist', this shit is elementary Leninism applied to the USA.

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Post right-wing/liberal memes, media, talking points, etc. that you want debunked

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ACAB alternative

The left's attitude towards the police is seriously warped to the point it makes us deny basic realities and result in wrecking our own organizations and forget our class politics. Just a few examples. I personally know an anarcho-feminist who claims was beaten and raped by a fellow leftist, a politician no less. When I was told this my first question was: "did she call the police?" The answer was: "no, she's an anarchist!" The most idiotic thing ever, because what if he goes on and rapes another woman? As a supposed feminist it is your duty to protect your fellow women and as an anarchist it is your duty to demand justice and legitimate punishment regardless of what form it comes in. Instead she asked her comrades to start a gossip "war," basically a smear campaign, because if you don't put your money where your mouth is and call the police people will naturally be skeptical of your claim. Then there was the case between two anarchist collectives in America (I don't even bother googling the case for you, because it's such a typical ailment of the new left) where someone from the first collective accused someone of the second collective of sexual harassment and both groups agreed not to call the police. The second group asked to uphold due process and hear both sides of the story together to which came the accusation that they are already victim blaiming. That is to say "we don't have to prove shit, if you don't kick him out, your group is reactionary." Thus the solidarity deteriorated between the two groups. The alternative, again, would have been to call the police because it's the only third party that has a certain degree of neutral commitment in this case (yes, I know, it's a bourgeois legal system, but it jails actual rapists all the time if you haven't noticed yet). This could have saved the solidarity between the two groups, but the left chose instead to cannibalize itself instead. (Because all of the cases I know of, and because it can be used as baseless wrecking, hell, even as CIA ops -- see the manufactured Assange case -- I became the fervent supporter of communist parties adopting the following policy: if there's no sufficient proof [no alibi, eyewitnesses, physical evidence, etc.] of a crime that would uphold in a court of law, the accuser is obliged to inform the cops, and the accused has to have his membership suspended for the duration of the official investigation. If the legal system can't decide, the comrade must be readmitted and the two separated into different branches of the org if both wish to stay and work towards communism. If he's proven guilty, he gets kicked out for life for hindering our cause. If she's proven to have been making up the case she gets kicked out. Professional revolutionary practice requires you to be vigilant and live a collective life inside the party and separate your private life. A communist party is not a social club. It's not recommended to marry inside the party, because if you divorce and gets dirty, the cause could loose one of you. It's not recommended to go to pubs together with comrades, because alcohol leads to dumb shit. Your comrades inside the organization are not your friends, potential significant others. If you are desperate for a comrade as a significant other, then a Leninist chick should seek out anarchists girls or other communist party members and vica versa. Such is life as it is now. Own up to it.) And finally the case of Bernie which just proves how fucked you are as a leftist now. When his mike was taken from him by BLM activists one side called him a weak or cuck or unprofessional (for legit reasons, imo), the other tried to justify this. When not long ago when naked vegans did the same his team made them fuck off and then was accused of being insensitive, aggressive, male chauvinist, what ever. This "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation in my eyes shows how deeply unprincipled the left is today. The Marxist position is that the policeman is an unproductive worker. This means that unlike a productive worker who produces value he is maintaining the current system with all its niceties and vices just like a social worker or a judge. He's a wage earner like you and has inherent class interests like you, some of which are shared: he wants his kids to get medical care, good schools, he hates corrupt politicians, etc. It is the specifics of his jobs and the characters of the national institutions that makes him in effect, but not necessarily as a person, often times the enemy of the working class. In this sense, structurally speaking, ACAB most of the time holds, but it can also be the case that he's on the side of the worker when he captures the lumpen who stole from a worker, when kills, yes, kills a racist mass shooter, or in the very rare case under capitalism when he has to arrest a bourgeois (for tax fraud, whatever).

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USSR and disabled people

How did they fare there back then?

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>"Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" Was he based? <inb4 anchored for idpol

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/Posadism General/

Please discuss and share resources on this topic.

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Chud Outreach

Currently hosting a reading of The Conquest of Bread and doing chud outreach on twitch.

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COVID-19 pandemic thread.

Why the FUCK is the US so bad at handling coronavirus? COVID trackers : (World) (World) (USA) (Reproduction rate of the virus in the USA) (Tracking each individual US state's COVID-19 Response)

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Is Star Wars creating generations of radicals?

I've been trying to watch all of Star Wars in order and right now I'm on the animated series 'Rebels' and I got to say this stuff is amazing propaganda. The main characters are essentially terrorists, running around blowing up random empire stuff. Clone wars was surprisingly very political. Theres at least 65,000 star wars fans in the USA dedicated enough to show up to a 2019 convention. Why don't we take a page from that ukrainian soccer fan club turned military wing and mobilize 'The Rebels' We can probably even get John Boyega to join the ranks. Maybe we should use a lot of laser pointers too. Maybe it would just be helpful to use Star Wars to educate people on theory. >It might be easier to unite a preexisting fanbase under leftism than create a new group probably some other fanbases we can hijack too

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Hey leftypol, I just want to ask the leftypol explanation as to why a large part of white collar office workers in the western world are working fuck all hours during their time at work? A lot of IT workers, administrators, accountants, logistics managers, etc are doing 3 hours of actual work a day. At first I thought it was a humblebrag, a way of people bragging about how easy their jobs are, but I just seen it too much, and then I started seeing it in person and I couldn't believe the amount of time people in those circles just don't do any work. I don't think there's anything inherent in the work that justifies it either, because it's not universal. And in the third world, those jobs are often the most grinding and brutal, just look at the work schedule IT workers in China have to keep to, the 996 system, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. And the ones brought into the west into the same areas don't seem to get the same luxury, they're treated like workhorses while the locals sign out early and often dick around. I personally as a blue collar worker feel like a fucking moron for working so hard all my life, and I'm quitting to train in either logistics, accounting or IT so I can get paid to shitpost online like my friends and family do. My sister manages an accounting office and she straight up tells me there's nothing she can do to stop her workers from browsing facebook all day. And this is Worley Parsons, not some backwards firm in the middle of nowhere. The usual explanation I've got from other websites is either supply or demand or an arrogant brag about how smart and productive western white collar workers are. But neither seem to hold true. The top end of the blue collar workers like fire safety technicians are in short supply on the level of many of these white collar workers, but they've still never been able to leverage themselves into a position where they can fuck around all day. I doubt it's skill and productivity either, because a lot of those white collar workers in foreign countries are hitting the industry with tiger parents, especially in India, China and South East Asia. I'm willing to bet Raj who was made to study programming 2 hours a day from 10-18 is a lot more skilled than the low level IT workers in the west, for example. Keynes was right, we can be working 3-5 hour days, but this luxury is only being given to certain workers in certain parts of the world. What would Marx say about this?

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USSR 2 MEGATHREAD Link to tweet: Link to the USSR 2 Q+A/AMA: EVERYTHING WE KNOW SO FAR -Ukrainian source told a communist in a group chat that we could see a "USSR 2" at some point, possibly 2021 in Ukraine with "Possibily Belarus + Kazhakstan + Central Asia" -the organization that wants to do this is as large as the Ukrainian army -they will trade with China -"There's a little communist independent zone to the east of Ukraine, Novorossiya. They want to liberate the rest of Ukraine" -Yeast discuss

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/Nord/ - Nordic General

A place to discuss nordic socialist/communist history, theory and current events.

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Daily reminder that this term used to mean something. As many of you may not realize the left has a horrible tendency of emptying out meaningful terms and basically "memeifying" them, which is to say keeping the form, emptying out the content. An obvious example is "tankie" which was termed by British Trotskyists to denote anyone who supported the USSR's invasions of Hungary in 1956. Now the term is mostly used by anarchists and basically means: "everyone who is not me, who actually read Engels' On Authority." But back to "workerism". This term used to mean something, and something very useful. Today it is used to ""counter"" anyone who actually deploys a class analysis. For example, if you say that "the lumpen proletariat is a thing" you get called a "workerist". Meanwhile, originally the term meant to denote a deviation from basic Marxist insights, which goes like this: >a lot of proles are religious! <therefore religion is good! >a lot of proles are reactionary! <therefore being reactionary is good! >a lot of proles can read for shit <therefore reading is bad! I hope you see what I mean. Our situation is fucking awful. Today we are faced with the fact that a lot of our original terminology is hijacked by literal liberals, and are used against us. Do you know of more examples of hijacked terms? I'd like to hear about them, and see their etymology. pic unrelated

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attention span

I have tried to read capital volume 1 multiple times and always give up and get bored by chapter 2/3. Any tips for people who have problems concentrating? Capital isn't an easy book to read its not light reading it requires concentration. I've read other theory by engels and lenin and mao, and even shorter works by Marx but somehow i can't into Capital itself

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Hacktivism/Cyberspace Politics General. The importance of the internet regarding our struggle.

I recently saw a really interesting point made by zizek regarding the internet, which might shed some light onto what our tasks as communists are in our present day and the possible obsolescence of our praxis. His point was made through analogy: He first told a story from the soviet revolution, about how Trotsky, in the very early days of said struggle, gathered around 1000 trusted men and divided them in short groups of 20, and sent them to take control of all infrastructure of petrograd: train stations, telephone stations, telegram stations, post offices, power plants... In that moment, the conflict was already over, because with the power of infrastructure in its hands he could know everything about everything being done in the extent of this domain, and also to make information, troops and resources flow in that territory with ease. I dont personally know the details of this, so i apologize in advance for any historical mistake or misconception. The point, however, is that he then claims that the internet would be the equivalent in importance to the infrastructure trotsky took in his time, something which i think cannot be denied, in the information age we are living in today, even the burden of state intelligence is held by the internet. Yet, the left has placed little importance on the internet at all, its praxis infamously stalled. Hacktivism poster has already showed us the extent of which any leftist project has not been very organized when it comes to hacking. Snowden and the wikileaks group come as an exception, but these are not explicitly left-wing projects, or at least they do not bear our flag outright (the quote of Snowden is still very relevant though:"We’re rapidly approaching the point where we need to seize the means of our communication.”) The hacktivism poster also taught us many things with the large pool of information he provided: methods of organization and of action, a quantitative framework from which to schematize them, some history, warnings regarding the possible movements of our enemies and the dangers we must work around of etc. If there's an archived version of that wonderfully crafted "hackactivism general" thread i invite you to post it below, i have some .txt files of it and if there is no archive we can figure out how i can share it with you. Maybe zizek meant a more physical/meatspace control, like seizing servers, but i nontheless believe that the left needs a more powerfull control over the internet starting from an inner level, by which i mean reputation, influence and range of action and control over the cyberspace. But 'how' to gain power over it and how 'power' takes form there is itself still something to be defined, since it is not a standard geographical territory easely taken hold of by sheer manpower, it plays by other rules which i frankly dont know for sure how are to be exploited, the means to archieve power within them, the degree of influence over the meatspace controlling the cyberspace would allow us to exercise... Due to the majority of the internet being controlled by large corporations it seems as if being powerfull in the cyberspace would not allow us to do much anyways, especially in social media sites which are structured so much in their advantage, but again, the rules that bound the cyberspace are different and might provide the possibility of a fair fight in its territory with even less power than in a standard physical territory. these are all things we can discuss in this thread, maybe some knowledgable anon can inform us on this questions in particular which i find most important, since most people doing politics on the internet make the mistake of playing by the established rules of the meatspace and not analyze the structure they move in. The current political events taking place within the internet, such as the culture war or this very site's existence are usually dismissed as uninmportant on this board, which I can understand why, since the protagonist of these events are more often than not brainlet /pol/tards, twitter wokies and a long list of other buffoons, a list that often times includes our members, but as seen from this point of view I begin to question if it is more important than it seems. The social media layer would nontheless be the most superficial, rethorical level, whereas a deeper realm would be that in which "hacktivist" (i dislike the term because of its liberal/non-radical praxis flavour) dwell, a structure/superstructure analogy can be made here. But for there to be hacktivism there has to be manpower, which has to be recruited from that first rethorical level, which in turn makes gathering influence over it one of the most important tasks. Moreso taking into account the cultural climate regarding the internet and hacking: whereas in the late 90s/early 00s it was seen as cool and insurrectionary to be a hacker and a lot of attention revolved around it, today it is no longer the case, and again with the exception of wikileaks, no much attention is given to hackers. Whereas the internet was seen as a potentially dangerous and uncontrollable entity in the past, today it is seen as more tame and even childish or childlike. I open this thread to discuss the importance of the internet into our praxis and objectives and the possibilities it holds. I put special faith into this thread because we usually talk about things we cannot but LARP about, like revolution and other radical praxis, but this might be different as it concerns the very place in which we are present, there is a feel as if the internet is not a real place, but i believe it can hold real power and this possibility grows whith each day that passes. It is my opinion that in this site we should focus more on these issues and leave the traditional praxis to irl groups.

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Marxism doesn't seem to make ethical claims, and it seems that it leaves the door open to ethical frameworks outside of Marxism that could lead one to a Marxist methodology for social change, maybe some utilitarian position or the like. Do you as an individual Marxist make claims about oppression being wrong, or liberation being good? How do you arrive at these value judgements?

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The left is outdated

It looks to me like the left isn't really going anywhere since the end of the cold war. We keep repeating the same praxis over and over and it never amounts to anything because there is no goal other than praxis for the sake of praxis. Neither do we know how to achieve leverage which is necessary for revolution or systematic change nor are we actually trying to achieve it. I think a big part of this problem is because Marx is treated like a sacred cow by the non-neoliberal left, when organizing along class basis we are still going off the premise of the leverage of the proletariat that Marx wrote about, which literally doesn't exist unless you make meme tier third worldist arguments. The whole reason why the proletariat was a force of change during the time of Marxes writing was because they were predominantly productive workers, working in factories, and their relationship to production was their leverage against the bourgs. The contemporary wagie doesn't have any sort of relation to the productive process, he distributes. In all western countries, the rate of employment in service jobs is around 80-90%, in eastern europe it is 60-70%. Marx was generalizing about the proletariat when he wrote his theory, because when he said the proletariat what he really meant was the industrial productive proletariat, which was a fine generalization to make since it likely applied to like 99% of the proletariat in the 19th century. Things aren't changing because everyone is still organizing on the basis of outdated theory, even the anarchists and the non marxists dogmatically base their praxis on this theory. This is why despite all the various riots and protests, it doesn't amount to anything. Capitalism as a system has progressed to the global stage and the left has failed to follow it and effectively combat it because it has become too abstract and unintelligible, it has become too large of a process to combat without similar international or global organization against it, which the left has failed to achieve. To COPE, the left has actually degenerated to an even lower form of organization, not even organized at a national or multi-national level today the left organizes on the local level and all its battles are fought on the local level, this is because locally the plight of capitalism is still tangible. Privatization, evictions, harm to the ecosystem, all of these things are symptoms and the left keeps fighting the symptoms with no goals or way to oppose the system causing them. Often times the left is organized in such a way that it prevents the symptoms of capitalism for the sake of preventing the symptoms of capitalism. It is commendable, like an organization here that defends folks from getting evicted, but that is their end game, they are just going to keep doing this ad infinitum. Even worse, more and more the left is inadequate at fighting even these symptoms, usually stopping at symbolic protests or meme demands which they don't have the leverage to enforce, so it devolves into a sort of feel good ritual where you play politics to do "your good deed of the day", you went out and demonstrated to fight capitalism so you did your part, activism is basically devolving into politics for the sake of identity and lifestylism.

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200+ vintage photos from USSR

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time to share thoughts on two orgs

My assessment of the PSL and PCUSA are this: PSL has women, PCUSA does not. I think there is something wrong with orgs that lack women in their ranks. Perhaps I am wrong i dont know but it just seems like PCUSA lacks women from all the media i have seen. PSL seems to be the more effective and bigger org too. Was wondering what you guys think of these two orgs. I dont care about FRSO or Cringe Party USA.

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Will we finally see a United Ireland in the next 5-10 years?

To me, the prospects of Irish reunification seem more likely everyday given the state of the British Union after Brexit and the looming economic collapse. What do you think, /leftypol/?

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vegan+refusal to work thread

A general thread for leftist deep ecology and anti-work anarchism

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Geopolitical Sim

Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here so im sorry if its not the right board. Me and some friends have a geopolitical rol game going and we were looking for people for the commie side, since a player flooded the server with reactionaries larping as the holy roman empire. The game is very simple, players send their moves (actions affecting the world) to the GM who rolls for their results and consequences in the world. Im playing as a russian SF, and we have player spaces for other soviet republics, commie china, arab socialism etc. if you are interested, hit me up on discord so i can tell you more if you are down Martho#1732 Pic related, PART OF the game map

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Is Krautistan embarking on a Fourth Reich

Apparently American is pulling out all its troops from the Land of Deutsch and Deustchstag has responded with G*Roman militarization Krautland has fought two world wars against the anglos already will they fight a third?

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tag yourself.

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Was the C.I.O. Racist?

I have read some interesting stuff talking about the character of the C.I.O. >Where the CIO organized Black workers it was utilitarian rather than principled. By the 1930’s Black labor had come to play a strategic role in 5 industries (usually performing the dirtiest and most hazardous jobs at lower pay): automotive, steel, meat packing, coal, railroads. Thus, in a number of industrial centers, the CIO unions could not be secure without controlling Afrikan (Black) labor. “The CIO’s policy, then, became to promote integration under settler leadership where Afrikan labor was numerous and strong (such as the foundries, the meat packing plants, etc.) and to maintain segregation and Jim Crow in situations where Afrikan labor was numerically lesser and weak. Integration and segregation were but two aspects of the same settler hegemony.” >At the same time, it was CIO practice to reserve the skilled crafts and more desirable production jobs for white (male) workers. For example, the first UAW/GM contract that resulted from the great Flint sit-down strike contained a “noninterchangibility” clause which in essence made it illegal for Black workers to move up from being janitors or foundry workers. Such policy came on the heels of Depression trends that had forced Blacks out of the better jobs. Between 1930-1936 some 50% of all Afrikan skilled workers were pushed out of their jobs. >Roosevelt’s support of the CIO came from a strategy to control and channel the class struggle. A significant factor in the success of the 1930’s union organizing drives was the government’s refusal to use armed repression. No U.S. armed forces were used against Euro-Amerikan workers from 1933-1941. >This policy was in marked contrast to, for example, the attack on the Nationalist party in Puerto Rico. In 1937, one month after President Roosevelt refused to use force against the Flint sit-down strike, U.S. police opened fire on a peaceful nationalist parade in Ponce, Puerto Rico. Nineteen Puerto Rican citizens were killed and over 100 wounded. While leftists committed to organizing of the 30’s might want to bring in different examples and argue Sakai’s interpretations, I think that overall subsequent history of the CIO has been clear: it has both reinforced white monopolies on preferred jobs and has been a loyal component of U.S. imperial policy abroad. What do you guys think? Was the CIO trying to keep white monopoly on jobs? Was it merely a vehicle for bourgoise social-democratic reforms or was it for real class struggle?

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Beirut Bomb Was Caused By the Efficiencies of Capitalism imagine. IMAGINE an economic system so utterly shit that it fails to deal adequately with the problem of a large amount of high explosives floating around not properly attended. Truly we live in Ancap hell society already

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What should I have taken away from Capital?

Seriously guys...this is what you base your ideology around? Capital had no plot, it was like some fucking nerd decided to write about who comes in and out of his apartment complex. What was I supposed to even take away from this? Niggas want money? like seriously wtf is the moral of the story?

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what is the main reason the left is so sectarian on the rojava?

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/leftypol/'s policy survey prepwork

NOTE: This thread is not for vooting on anything, but to determine how the poll should look like With that out of the way, let's get started. I believe that at least for the purpose of online discussion, for instance here on /leftypol/, ideological identifications are useless and bring nothing but sectarian discord. Instead, I propose to look at the actual policies that people support, as in the end it is that what truly matters. For this reason, I am planning on making the second ever /leftypol/'s policy survey. The goals of this are twofold: 1st: To get a far more accurate view on what fellow users actually believe in, instead of just a parade of jumbled ideologies 2nd To, hopefully, bring more unity to /leftypol/ by showing that we are far more similar than it can appear due to the nature of online discussion So, now to the actual planning of the survey. If anyone happens to haves a saved image or an archived link to the old policy survey thread, it would be greatly appreciated, as then most of the work would already be cut out for us. However I am not banking on this. So, under this post will be my first draft of the questions that the polls will present, along with the first proposed picks. If you have contentions with these, want to add additional questions or have any other suggestion, please post it in the thread. >Preferred means of achieving revolution <Organizing militant unions <Vanguardism <Creating dual power <Military coup <Propaganda of the deed <Wait for spontaneous revolt >Preferred economic policy short-term <Fully-planned economy <State-ran vital industries, more autonomous light industry <State-capitalism <Cooperative economy <Interventionist market economy >Preferred economic policy long-term <Fully-planned economy <State-ran vital industries, more autonomous light industry <State-capitalism <Cooperative economy <Interventionist market economy >Government short-term <Revolutionary monarchy/dictatorship (eg Napoleon, Cromwell etc.) <Revolutionary oligarchy (eg USSR, China) <Direct democracy + allotted bureaucracy <Direct democracy + representative bureaucracy <Representative multi-party democracy <Federation of regional councils >Government long-term <Revolutionary monarchy/dictatorship (eg Napoleon, Cromwell etc.) <Revolutionary oligarchy (eg USSR, China) <Direct democracy + allotted bureaucracy <Direct democracy + representative bureaucracy <Representative multi-party democracy <Federation of regional councils >Military structure you would still be ok with using <Service by requirement and more <Up to conscription <Up to volunteer service <Only people’s militias <Complete disarmament >Preferred military structure <Service by requirement and more <Up to conscription <Up to volunteer service <Only people’s militias <Complete disarmament >State security you would still be ok with using <Total 24/7 panopticon <Modern CIA levels <Limited intelligence capabilities <Only Federal crime agencies <Only police <Only local vigilantes >Proffered model of state security <Total 24/7 panopticon <Modern CIA levels <Limited intelligence capabilities <Only Federal crime agencies <Only police <Only local vigilantes >Control of media you would still be ok with using <Brain washing propaganda <Widespread propaganda, no independent sources <Some propaganda, limited control of anti-government sources <Only censorship for public decency <Zero censorship >Preferred media control <Brain washing propaganda <Widespread propaganda, no independent sources <Some propaganda, limited control of anti-government sources <Only censorship for public decency <Zero censorship >Freedom of artistic expression <Only ideological art <Prohibition of ideologically opposed art <Public decency control <Complete freedom PS I believe it is very important to distinguish between the ideal and what you are actually willing to do to achieve it. Hence many of these are split in half.

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#nocomradesunder1000 If you want a boost in the twitter game, make an account now, follow this hashtag and comment, you will get some instant followers. We need as many good people on twitter as possible.

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Simple living / more local economy in the future

What are your thoughts on the concept of "simple living" and how it relates to communism. While it's often tied up with consumerist aesthetics, hippie movements and religion, does it have any merits? Early Marxists imagined a communist world to be defined by massive industrialization and post-scarcity but I'm pessimistic of this. In a future that is everyday looking to be defined by collapse, I believe that some form of lower consumption will be necessary, at the very least temporarily. Either the environment is fucked, destroying capitalist supply lines and industry or communism implements policies to stop this which in turn will lower production, at least relative to what the western world is used to. I know I sound like a bit of an uneducated dumbass but that's why I want to learn. Are there any resources relating to this topic?

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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
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is the ELN based?

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Name a single fucking point he was wrong on. PROTIP: you can't!

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What kind of migration controls were there between Warsaw Pact countries? How easy would it be for, say, a citizen of Bulgaria to go and visit Romania?

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Linguistics and libs

Hello all! I have a question which I will ask at the end of this post. To preface: I'm not a linguist by any means, but I am passingly familiar with the whole prescriptivist/descriptivist issue. While many anti-prescriptivist arguments do make sense, I find what is termed "strict descriptivism" to be unnerving. Take, for instance, this Stack Exchange encounter: The OP writes: "I have a friend named Chloe (pronounced Clo-ee). She writes her name using an accent mark over the e. A friend of ours thinks that the accent mark means unstressed, so that her name is pronounced Clo-eh. Does the accent mark mean stressed or unstressed?" The response that the OP identified as the best answer was this: "Standard Written English doesn't use diacritics, so there is no consensus for what they mean when you do use them. [...] Culturally, people are entitled to dictate both the spelling and the pronunciation of their names. If your friend says that her name is pronounced "Clo-ee" and spelt "Chloé", then she is correct. But your other friend who says that her name is pronounced "Cluh" and spelt "Chloé" is also correct. And your other other friend who says that his name is pronounced "David" but spelt "Da5id" is correct too." In a discussion of this answer, another user said, "Actually, a diaeresis has a perfectly well defined and agreed upon meaning in English native words, like coöperate, zoölogy, reëlect, and all the rest like those." And here's where the rubber hit the road for me. The person who gave the 'best answer' responded to the comment about diaereses thus: "I am a strict descriptivist, and I'm quite confident that most speakers don't know that anymore, so by me it no longer counts as an agreed-upon rule." This idea of "most speakers don't know this, so it's no longer a rule" seems like it could lead to some troublesome things. Such a hands-off, "if people say x is y then x IS y" sort of perspective seems perfect for corrupting/fragmenting definitions of "Marxism," "communism," and so on. Obviously these things have already been contentious with regards to their definition, but the "popular use dictates meaning" standpoint seems detrimental to efforts that aim to help resolve these contentions. As the last little note in this lead-up, the popularity of the openly descriptivist linguist Erik Singer on YouTube shows that this position is not relegated solely to linguistics journals and weird little Stack Exchange threads. So, for my question (or, rather, questions): Do you all think that the influence of strict descriptivism in popular culture and society poses any sort of threat to Marxist/communist organizational and educational efforts? Or am I just being oversensitive, and/or is strict descriptivism unimportant in the grand scheme of things?

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Spain’s former King Juan Carlos ‘flees to Dominican Republic’ amid scandal >Spain’s former king Juan Carlos, at the centre of an alleged $100-million corruption scandal, has reportedly fled to the Dominican Republic after his shock announcement he was going into exile. >The 82-year-old revealed on Monday that he had taken the decision to leave Spain to help his son, the current King Felipe VI, “exercise his responsibilities”.

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The beginnings of our new leftypol project

Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way. Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now). I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions. So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now. If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site. Thanks for your attention! EDIT: I've now got admin permissions on leftypedia, so I can create pages and approve edits directly. If you want to use the site I recommend you create a user account, which I can then approve once you make a productive edit (to distinguish from spambots), then you won't have to wait for approval anymore and can create articles yourself. Or, just ask me and I can create an article for you if you're desperate to make one as your first edit. Thanks guys, I hope we can make this project cool together! t. Caballo

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This is not a drill, save what you can NOW.

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ITT: We organize an event to try to get Steven Pinker banned from twitter by mass reports. There are two fronts in this battle, one is the leftists, who should hate Pinker on principle. The other side is the right wingers, who should hate him for being a pedo apologist and a friend of Bill Gates. The attachment is the prototype of the right wing side propaganda. The event is scheduled July 2, 2020. That is a week from now. Steven Pinker is one of Bill Gates best friends. With this vaccine shit, Bill Gates is on the right wing's radar. Recently, "Filthy Rich" came out on Netflix, meaning that normies are now well aware of Eptstein's crimes. Recently the Milwaukee police were caught red-handed in a pedophile ring. So that too is on everyone's mind. Now hear me out. With our collective autism and our influence outside bunkerchan, we can make this into a real thing. Remember that we do have influence, and that "epstein didn't kill himself" was a super huge meme on both sides of the political spectrum. OPERATION: PINKER STINKER Formerly, Operation Porky Sweat We make a huge coordinated effort to cancel Steven Pinker on twitter. Here's the plan: 1. Set a date. 2. Contact every single leftist org, tell them to help out in cancelling Steven Pinker. If they are a good leftist org, they will know him and hate his guts. Otherwise, explain that he's an important neoliberal apologist and defended Epstein in court. 3. Contact QBoomers, tell them about the plan. Tell them Pinker is best friend of Epistein AND Bill Gates. Bill Gates knows that his best friend defended a pedo. They will schizo the rest of the details. 5. Make memes/propaganda in preparation of the event. Mix in the implication that the ruling class is filled with pedophiles. Just for lulz. Make the implication that police are mini-porkies, tie it in with the Milwaukee police pedo ring. 6. On the day of the event, Pinker is revealed as a pedo apologist, and Bill Gates as a friend of one (with "is he a pedo too???" implications). 7. Porky sweats.

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Holy shit I'm a corporatist now because the more the government intervenes the more socialister it is.

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Larp Thread For Fun: What you be in a revolutionary situation?

In a revolutionary situation, what would you be doing? Rate yourself on: Ability to organise people,useful vocational skills i.e. medicine or weapons training, level of communist theory, level of physical fitness. Rate these things 1 to 5. If you have a little experience organising put 3, if you had a good amount 4, if you have a lot i.e. you are a paid organiser or have a long trek record of success, put 5. If you have no experience put 2. If you are a socially retarded press 1. If you have zero vocational skills put 1, if you have a fairly irrelevant vocational skill put 2. If you have a relevant skill put three, if you have a highly relevant skill put 4, if you have multiple relevant skills put 5. Also state them Level of communist theory. Put a one if you don't read or really know shit. put a 2 if you have binge watched some breadtube. Put a three if you listen to a lot of good lefty podcast content and have read some theory here and there. Put 4 if you have read a considerable amount of theory. put a 5 if you have a working knowledge of most mainstream revolutionary theory, a good grasp of most of the history, to a high level. Physical fitness: 1 if you are disabled. 2. if you are a fat fuck. 3 if you are skinny fat, 4 if you are in reasonable shape, 5 if you are in above average shape On top of this, you get one perk but also one debuff. What is a facet of your chacter that gives you strengths, what is a facet of your character that makes you weak? Then say what you think you would be good at. Do a based chad you version and virgin cuck you version I'll start: Organising: 4 Skills: 2.5(I can produce copy) Theory: 3.5 Fitness: 4 Perk: I used to be a shithead, have done crime before, so sneaky and also unscrupulous when it comes down to it, and a practised liar, bullshitter and deceiver. Debuff: I have a drug issue and mental health issues. Based chad me I think I would be good at counter intelligence and black propaganda tbh. Virgin Cuck me could either be a grunt solider or a low level bureaucrat

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Realise that the Free and Open Source Philosophy is contemporary marxist philosophy!

<Since >>>/tech/ is pretty slow and I think this is very important to know for any leftist in the 21st century I will post it here “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." ~ Karl Marx Openness is an overarching concept or philosophy that is characterized by an emphasis on transparency and collaboration. That is, openness refers to "accessibility of knowledge, technology and other resources; the transparency of action; the permeability of organisational structures; and the inclusiveness of participation". Openness can be said to be the opposite of closedness, central authority and secrecy. A Little History The concept of free sharing of technological information existed long before computers. For example, in the early years of automobile development, one enterprise owned the rights to a 2-cycle gasoline engine patent originally filed by George B. Selden. By controlling this patent, they were able to monopolize the industry and force car manufacturers to adhere to their demands, or risk a lawsuit. In 1911, independent automaker Henry Ford won a challenge to the Selden patent. The result was that the Selden patent became virtually worthless and a new association was formed. The new association instituted a cross-licensing agreement among all US auto manufacturers: although each company would develop technology and file patents, these patents were shared openly and without the exchange of money between all the manufacturers. In the 1950s and into the 1960s almost all software was produced by academics and corporate researchers working in collaboration, often shared as public-domain software. As such, it was generally distributed under the principles of openness and cooperation long established in the fields of academia, and was not seen as a commodity in itself. By the late 1960s change was coming: as operating systems and programming language compilers evolved, software production costs were dramatically increasing relative to hardware. Software was not considered copyrightable before the 1974 US Commission on New Technological Uses of Copyrighted Works decided that "computer programs, to the extent that they embody an author's original creation, are proper subject matter of copyright" In the late 1970s and early 1980s, computer vendors and software-only companies began routinely charging for software licenses, marketing software as "Program Products" and imposing legal restrictions on new software developments through copyrights, trademarks, and leasing contracts. In 1976 Bill Gates wrote an essay entitled "Open Letter to Hobbyists", in which he expressed dismay at the widespread sharing of Microsoft's product by hobbyists without paying its licensing fee. <ONE PERSON ESPECIALLY DISTRESSED BY THIS NEW PRACTICE WAS RICHARD STALLMAN He invented copyleft, a legal mechanism to preserve the "free" status of a work subject to copyright, and implemented this in the GNU General Public License. Copyleft licenses allow authors to grant a number of rights to users but requires derivatives to remain under the same license or one without any additional restrictions. Since derivatives include combinations with other original programs, downstream authors are prevented from turning the initial work into proprietary software, and invited to contribute to the copyleft commons. Later, variations of such licenses were developed by others. Free Software, Free Society by Stallman gives us the practical means to own the digital means of production! In the late 1960s, Stewart Brand founded the Whole Earth Catalog and argued that technology could be liberating rather than oppressing. He coined the slogan >"Information wants to be free" in 1984 against limiting access to information by governmental control, preventing a public domain of information. In 1998, the United States Congress passed the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, which President Clinton signed into law. The legislation extended copyright protections for twenty additional years, resulting in a total guaranteed copyright term of seventy years after a creator's death. The bill was heavily lobbied by music and film corporations like Disney, and dubbed as the Mickey Mouse Protection Act. Lawrence Lessig claims copyright is an obstacle to cultural production, knowledge sharing and technological innovation, and that private interests – as opposed to public good – determine law. In 2001, Lessig initiated Creative Commons, an alternative "some rights reserved" licensing system to the default "all rights reserved" copyright system. Lessig focuses on a fair balance between the interest of the public to use and participate into released creative works and the need of protection for a creator's work, which still enables a "read-write" remix culture. The term “free culture” was originally used since 2003 during the World Summit on Information Society to present the first free license for artistic creation at large, initiated by the Copyleft attitude team in France since 2001 (named free art license). It was then developed in Lawrence Lessig's book Free Culture in 2004. In 2005/2006 within the free-culture movement, Creative Commons has been criticized by Erik Möller and Benjamin Mako Hill for lacking minimum standards for freedom. Following this, the "Definition of Free Cultural Works" was created as collaborative work of many, including Erik Möller, Lawrence Lessig, Benjamin Mako Hill and Richard Stallman. In February 2008, several Creative Commons licenses were "approved for free cultural works", namely the CC BY and CC BY-SA (later also the CC0). Creative commons licenses with restrictions on commercial use or derivative works were not approved. In October 2014 the Open Knowledge Foundation described their definition of "open", for open content and open knowledge, as synonymous to the definition of "free" in the "Definition of Free Cultural Works", noting that both are rooted in the Open Source Definition and Free Software Definition. Therefore, the same three creative commons licenses are recommended for open content and free content, CC BY, CC BY-SA, and CC0. Open Hardware Open-source hardware (OSH) consists of physical artifacts of technology designed and offered by the open-design movement. Both free and open-source software (FOSS) and open-source hardware are created by this open-source culture movement and apply a like concept to a variety of components. It is sometimes, thus, referred to as FOSH (free and open-source hardware). The term usually means that information about the hardware is easily discerned so that others can make it – coupling it closely to the maker movement. Hardware design (i.e. mechanical drawings, schematics, bills of material, PCB layout data, HDL source code and integrated circuit layout data), in addition to the software that drives the hardware, are all released under free/libre terms. The original sharer gains feedback and potentially improvements on the design from the FOSH community. There is now significant evidence that such sharing can drive a high return on investment for the scientific community. WITHOUT OPEN SOURCE HARDWARE WE CAN'T 'OWN' THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION Why on earth are current socialist nations focusing on this? Why the fuck do you boomers not realize that Stallman literally gave us the key to owning the means of production? Here is a based project I found watch this 4 minute tech talk: Our international comrades need to understand this concept, this is the information age. Why doesn't North Korea publish all their documents of central planning on something similar to github? We as armchair communists could literally help them through the use of technology. Apply the philosophy of free and open source to literally ANY aspect of society and you'll find amazing insights on how 21st century socialism/communism would look like /rant

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Anyone from Poland here? Who are you gonna vote for?

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>didn't make CP illegal until 2014 and constantly fetishize children and young teenagers. Also have a lot of rapes that go unreported >workaholic Confucius culture where workers are constantly killing themselves >Horribly HORRIBLY consumerist culture that somehow is worse than America's >love authority. They literally are the biggest fucking bootlickers on the planet Is there any hope for Japan moving to the left? Can they be rendered class conscious? They cling to their Confucius ideals really hard and continue bootlicking. It seems as if they're moving more and more rightward day after day.

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Return of slavery?

It was brought up in the idpol thread that the profit margin of slavery was around 12%. I looked it up, that's apparently from Alfred Conrad and John Meyer's article "The Economics of Slavery in the Ante Bellum South", available here: While there might be debates around the correctness of the study, etc, the question that interests me is about how this number compares to the rate of profit today. Micheal Roberts' study of the world rate of profit is posted here on his blog: There, he posits that the global rate of profit is sitting around 15% for the world, and is as low as 7% in the G7 countries. At this point, wage slavery is half as profitable as chattel slavery. Does this mean we might see a return of widespread chattel slavery? I see the ideas of 'neofeudalism' and 'cyberpunk ancap dystopia' bandied about a lot. Is this the form it might take? A return to owning people full-time, instead of renting them by the hour?

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/his/ needs you. halfchan's his board has long been a bastion of leftist thought on the site. why is this important? because it's one of the most popular sites in the world and thus responsible for a large section of the zeitgeist. You can literally go to /his/ and have debates on Karl Marx and communism, etc. The reason why is because people who see history as a hobby are more inclined to ask for sources rather than just accept pol shit at face value. That said, the last couple of weeks has seen a noticeable uptick in pol posting-mainly racebait shit etc. So anyway, this is an open invitation to the /his/ board. REMINDER WE HAVE >>>/edu/ WHICH IS OUR /his/ + /lit/ + /sci/ + /math/ etc BOARDS

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Redpill me on climate change. How bad is it really? Does anyone even know?

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Unsociable leftist problem

Basically has no friend beside girlfriend Not sociable Not that smart Hates almost every other leftists orgs in my country What should people like me do other than shitposting on the internet and reading for autistic curiosity?

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Hawaii General

>inb4 put it in USA general A general for discussing HI based politics Any other Hawaii-anons here? Answer (optional): CIA/NSA/FBI questions 1. Which Island? 2. Are you involved in any politics/parties? 3. Who are you vooting for in the upcoming elections?

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Are we all in agreement that "breaking up trusts" is a liberal capitalist solution to private monopoly and that the correct, socialist solution is to nationalize/socialize said monopolies?

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Give me your best political compass memes.

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Why are reactionaries such mental midgets?

I'm dead serious, how is it that these people lack even the most basic tenets of cognitive efficiency or any actual understanding of the world and what words mean? For as much as they say we've "abused" racism and fascism as terms to the point where they "have no meaning", they don't seem to have it any more together than we do. I don't even buy the "never believe they are unaware of the absurdity of their replies" thing for a lot of them, because that would require cunning and critical thinking skills - two things the average Nick Fuentes viewer couldn't comprehend to save their life.

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DHS Investigates Alleged Antifa Protesters as Terrorists Trained in Syria

An intelligence report from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) states that anti-fascist activists (Antifa) are being investigated as possible terrorists with affiliations to Syria, even though no self-identified members of the loosely-affiliated Antifa protest movement have either been proven to commit any murders or carry out any terrorist attacks. The report details more than half a dozen people identified with various far-left causes who have personally visited Syria to fight alongside Kurdish factions. The factions include the YPG, the People's Defense Unit; the PKK, the Kurdistan Workers' Party; and the Peshmerga, military forces that provide security for Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan Region. None of these organizations are currently listed by the U.S. as terrorist groups. "There appears to be a clear connection ... between ANTIFA ideology and Kurdish democratic federalism teachings and ideology," the report stated. "(U.S. Customs and Border Protection) concern about and interest in these individuals stems from the types of skills and motivations that may have developed during their time overseas engaged in foreign conflicts." While the report said that Antifa and the Kurdish factions share some "Marxist, socialist, communist and anti-fascist" ideologies that are sometimes "far-left" and "utopian," the report also concluded that, "apart from a single instance derived from open-source reporting," there's no evidence of centralized-foreign efforts to command Antifa-affiliated U.S. citizens once they return to the U.S. after fighting abroad. Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, told The Nation that he fears that by labeling Antifa as a foreign-supported terrorist organization, the federal government may be making it easy to subject protesters affiliated with the movement to warrantless searches and surveillance that would otherwise be illegal and unconstitutional against U.S. citizens. On July 27, President Donald Trump said that he wanted to declare Antifa as a "terrorist organization" even though they've never been proven to have killed anyone or carried out a terrorist attack. A terrorist attack, according to the Patriot Act, must be "dangerous to human life" and "a violation of the criminal laws of the U.S." in seeking to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population," "influence the policy of a government" or "affect the conduct of a government."

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Anons' ideology

It's really interesting to know what ideological composition of this board is, so I've created a poll to see what you believe in

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Leftypol's intellect

So we came to the conclusion in several threads that a communist should be well rounded in both sciences and math and the humanities, besides the radical classics. We should try to detect are collective shortcomings and come up with ways to address them, therefore I created 2 polls on all the disciplines/topics I think are advantageous for a radical to be well versed in: 1. 2. And finally a poll on our weaknesses: 3. Feel free to post better polls. Ask if you want recommendations, help, some sympathetic words, really.

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bumplocked: plz no 4chan. /lit/ on 4chan is the best chance we have if we want a small cut of the pie of politics on there. For the most part, it's not nearly as racist and degenerate as the rest of the boards, yet it still is heavily anti-communist. If your ever gonna go attack there, talk about dates and who is doing it. Personally, asking questions like "What books detail the descent into fascism" or questions similar seem to work out great. If you challenge them without necessarily your a leftist, they'll take you more seriously.

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Why were wages higher in America for European immigrants?

I was reading Sakai recently and he says at one point that even for the discriminated against Irish workers, wages were often higher than in their home nation, the same being true with Native born Anglo-Americans compared to British workers. He alleges that this because they were gaining from the super exploitation of black workers. I don't think this is quite true, as even a Mexican immigrant picking tomatoes for minimum wage is technically making more money than he would in home country, and I doubt this means that the Mexican farm worker is a loathsome labor aristocrat, but It does make me wonder what the reasons are or how true the economic facts of this are?

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Otto Von Bismarck

What is leftypol's opinion on pic related? He was a monarch, but he created the first modern welfare state. What's your opinion on him?

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NATO vs Warsaw Pact

Who would've won?

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Political Compass Results

Here are mine, rate

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Operation Baidoodle

>Google is now making it easier to find Black-owned businesses >Google added a similar feature for businesses that were “Women-Led” 1. Have a black comrade who owns a business get 2 friends. 2. Have 1 of his friends put his business as black owned on Google Maps. 3. Have the other friend vandalise the business with anti-black slogan that mentions Google Maps. 4. Black comrade sues Google for Kristalnachting his business. 5. ??? 6. profit + party donations

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What are some flowcharts for reading? What books should be read to understood other ones? This is a rather necessary topic since it would make philosophy more accessible. Much of the reason why people don't read is because philosophy seems so abstruse, so even if someone wants to finally get to reading theory they are confronted with a bunch of terminology that requires some explanation that's very hard to find. So, what materials should be begun with, and which are intermediate, and then after this advanced?

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the only true revolution that could succeed in the nowdays will have to begin (in the third world) as a conspiration before making the party and cooperate in the coup de etat the revolution should include periodist and media, military and politicians

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Will 2020s America be like 1970s - 1980s America?

Or will it be like 1930s America? Like, let's see: >Explosion of poverty >Explosion of crime >Business closures >Government in total disarray >Widespread discontent and protests >Government probably boutta fuck the economy something fierce >Middle class people fleeing the cities for the suburbs and rural areas again (70s-80s) Is this how real life cyberpunk finally comes into existence?

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What are your thoughts on Disco?

Disco was a fad that rose rapidly in the seventies but then faced a reactionary backlash from rock and roll fans and then it died. Any thoughts on this? Were they as much of a lefty musical movement as rock and roll generally was?

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Having long known of the evil opinions and acts of the TWITTERITE, we have endeavored by various means and promises, to turn him from his evil ways. But having failed to make him mend his wicked ways, and, on the contrary, daily receiving more and more serious information about the abominable heresies which he practiced and taught and about his monstrous deeds, and having for this numerous trustworthy witnesses who have deposed and born witness to this effect in the presence of the said TWITTERITE, we became convinced of the truth of this matter; and after all of this has been investigated in the presence of the honorable, we have decided, with our consent, that the said TWITTERITE should be excommunicated and expelled from the people of /leftypol/…" no one shall communicate with him neither in writing nor accord him any favor nor stay with him under the same roof nor within four cubits in his vicinity; nor shall he read any treatise composed or written by him. By decree of the angels and by the command of the holy men, we excommunicate, expel, curse and damn the TWITTERITE with the consent of our lord and savior Cockshott (Blessed be He), and with the consent of the entire holy congregation, and in front of these holy scrolls with the cybernetic knowledge which is written therein; cursing him with the excommunication with which we banned the stupidpolers and with the curse which we cursed the chapocels and with all the castigations which are written in the Book of the Law. Cursed be he by day and cursed be he by night; cursed be he when he lies down and cursed be he when he rises up. Cursed be he when he goes out and cursed be he when he comes in. The Lord will not spare him, but then the anger of the Lord and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the Lord shall blot out his name from under heaven. And the Lord shall separate him unto evil out of all the tendencies of /leftypol/, according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in this book of the law.

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>le epic pro-sex work leftism XD Is this just virgins who instinctively soyface at any and all ideas of female sexuality? Sex work only became a thing in Russia the USSR fell, when women could no longer find jobs as doctors and teachers and scientists. It's neoliberal exploitation at its most brutal. But I guess that's what "liberation" looks like

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Pornography and ideology

What are the ties between race fetishim and nazism? Pic related basically reads like a sexual version of the turner diaries.Yet it's so obvious how it's written by some petty boug Suburban dwelling american who probably posts on /pol/. Since this as been a consistent tool of propaganda all through history, what's the tie? >He hated them. He hated the sight of them. They were destroyers, these black kings. A menace. Ruiners of all he held dear. >Even so, just look at them. Those rippling muscles. The superior physicality, the raw animal strength born from centuries of oppression, now weaponized against the oppressors. Look at those chiseled abs, those huge pecs, those biceps. He was in awe of the guards especially, with their tribal paint and tattoos, their golden ceremonial bands around their massive biceps. In the books the guns of the new african army are also manufactured by china and there is at least 2 paragraphs dedicated to this. He grabbed the machine gun out of Alex’s hands with ease, like he was snatching it away from a recalcitrant toddler. He grabbed the dog’s leash and shushed him, bringing him to heel. “Peep dat shit,” Inspector Jamal said. He pointed to the lettering along the side of the gun: a string of holographic Chinese characters. >“Da Chinks made dis gun for da New African Army, whiteboi. Dis thang right here,” Jamal said, pointing to a tiny box on the side of the gun. “Dis reads yo’ muhfuckin’ biochemistry. If you ain’t black, this gun ain’t gon’ fire for you, bitch. We got dese pieces made custom.” There is also incessant screeching about his "virginal" sister. >He pictured Kaylee. He thought of what these brutish conquerors would do to her if he failed. They’d wreck her body >They’d leave every hole a gaping, cum-filled mess,and they’d breed her with litter after litter of black babies. He imagined the horrifying image of Kaylee’s arms full of weeping jet-black babies, all grasping and craning their necks to suck milk from her white bosom. Or muh property >They were called insta-brands: originally used in the breeding pens to brand white women during their inseminations. Soldiers began using them to “mark” sissies they’d fucked, similar to a graffiti tag on a city wall.

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Debunking the Free Market

Tell me why the free market doesn't work >Price ceilings My economics teacher always told me that communism didn't work because setting price ceilings causes shortages and the only way to fix it is to either increase supply or adjust the price to match demand. >why are certain goods unaffordable In the theoretic free market, suppliers would be forced to lower their prices if nobody could afford them since they naturally want the greatest amount of consumers for large profits. Why then do we see that happen in industries like healthcare where so many people can't afford it?

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Why where the khmer rouge so retarded? Why were they fixated with farm life and anti-intellectualism? Are there any retarded leftists still that ever supported them outside of kampuchea?

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what's idealism and how is it different from materialism?

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Plato: justified?

Our 21st century democracy has become what he predicted, except instead of ostraciziation meaning exile it means "cancellation" through concerted social and financial harassment.

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Where does the LTV breakdown

I was wondering if there is any conditions where the LTV cannot provide an explanation. For example: artwork. Why is it that art is so expensive, despite many paintings not taking an amount of socially necessary labor time to create as what comes with their pricetag? Or how about auctions? There are goods sold at auctions that people bid on that ultimately get sold for orders of magnitude more than what the LTV would traditionally predict. And finally, theres celebrities in movies. It costs roughly a million dollars just to be put on SPEAKING TERMS with most famous hollywood superstars of the Brad Pitt, Robert Downy Jr. type, and millions more to get them to act in your movies. In each of these instances, surely marginalism provides a better explanation as to why these goods are more valuable no? pic unrelated

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Is Recycling Bullshit?

Rarely I hear leftists mention offhand that recycling either "isn't enough", "is insignificant" or even "causes more emissions than it tries to prevent", but have never actually seen the numbers for it. Back when Penn and Teller did their episode about it ("Recycling is Bullshit"), they only came across as the contrarian edgelords they are, and I wouldn't and didn't put it past them to cite statistics out of context to make their point. Another place you can hear about it is from Certified Soyboy Adam Conover, who in fact falls into the exact same category. So what actually is the truth about recycling? PDFs are more than welcome, as long as they're well-written and know what they're talking about - preferably something more scientific and dry than something written by some pop-sci asshole who would rather present things in black and white. If recycling is indeed a huge waste of time and energy, we can use that to show normies how little foresight capitalism really has, wasting energy and resources in the long run just to appear wiser momentarily.

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Communism in contemporary Central Asia

Greetings all! I recently graduated from university, and during my time there I did a fair amount of work on Central Asia, specifically Kazakhstan; going into graduate school, I aim to continue to study the region. Of course, I don't believe in "producing knowledge for knowledge's sake". I want to study the region for a similar reason Lenin studied the development of capitalism in Russia: to better understand current conditions in order to act more intelligently and effectively. This brings me to the subject of this thread: communism in post-Soviet Central Asia. In Kazakhstan, for example, there is the Communist People's Party of Kazakhstan, but it is completely in line with the regime and -- correct me if I'm wrong -- generally has very little impact on Kazakhstani society. However, are there other, more "real" (pardon the basic language) communist movements in Central Asia? Additionally, whether there are or aren't, I'm also curious if anyone here knows how people in Central Asia feel about communism. I hear about communist movements in the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Mexico, Spain, Nepal, Italy... but never do I hear about Central Asia (namely the post-Soviet states of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan). Assuming I'm able to continue studying the region, and ergo able to get travel grants to conduct research in the region, it is a goal of mine -- however possibly overly optimistic -- to be involved with and/or initiate some sort of communist organization, education, etc. in Central Asia.

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News 7/24/20

Iranian passenger plane forced to change course as US fighter jets approached – report Two US fighter jets came close to an Iranian passenger plane over Syrian airspace, causing the pilot to change altitude quickly to avoid collision and injuring several passengers, Iran’s official IRIB news agency reported. Israeli army reinforces Lebanon border after Hezbollah warnings Israel has said it is sending military reinforcements to its northern frontier after the Lebanon-based Hezbollah group threatened retaliation over the killing of one of its members in an attack in Syria earlier this week. Vietnam pays tribute to Venezuelan guerrillas for role in trying to stop 1964 execution of Viet Cong militant A ceremony was held at the Vietnamese embassy in Caracas with the general secretary of the Communist Party of Venezuela Oscar Figuera and its international secretary Carolus Wimmer among the attendees. Chile: Piñera to Enact Historic Reform for Pensions Retirement Chile's President Sebastian Piñera Friday will enact the Reform that will allow citizens to withdraw 10 percent of their savings from the Pension Fund Managers (AFP)."It is the president's will to enact this Constitutional Reform according to the difficult economic situation the country is facing," the Presidency's press office informed. China orders U.S. to close a consulate after U.S. demands it shutter Houston outpost The announcement came after the U.S. ordered China to close its consulate in Houston, citing efforts to protect American intellectual property and the private information of its citizens. Fundraiser for Corbyn's legal fees smashes £20k target at least eight times over AFUNDRAISER set up to pay for Jeremy Corbyn’s legal fees surpassed £170,000 in a day today, after he was threatened with libel action by a BBC journalist.The Islington North MP and former Labour leader is being accused of libel by John Ware, a reporter for documentary series Panorama. U.S.-Canada Asylum Treaty Unconstitutional, Judge Finds, Citing 'Cruel' U.S. Behavior In a harsh rebuke of America's treatment of refugees, a Canadian judge has ruled that an asylum treaty with the U.S. violates Canada's own charter of human rights, because it returns asylum-seekers to the U.S., where they are "immediately and automatically imprisoned" by U.S. authorities, often under inhumane conditions. Child abduction, forced labor scandal widens in south Mexico A scandal involving the abduction and exploitation of young children in a colonial Mexican city popular with tourists widened Wednesday when prosecutors released additional evidence that an adult apparently used other children to help kidnap a missing 2-year-old boy. Cuba Allows Its Clinic to Be Used for the Bolivians Welfare Cuba's Foreign Affairs Ministry (Minrex) Thursday announced that it will put its "Collaborator's Clinic" at the Bolivian people's disposal so that it can be used to confront the pandemic despite the hostile attitude of Bolivia's coup-born regime against the Island. 55.3% Of The World’s Population Exposed To Increasing Air Pollution A new study shows that over half of the world’s population is exposed to increasing air pollution. This may seem like a no-brainer, but research is always a good thing, especially when it comes to answering the who, what, when, and where type of questions that are needed in order to solve problems.

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America's poorest are richer than the most average Europeans

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I see a lot of conservatives saying, that we are a bunch of "endoltrinated" children. serious question now. Do you think you were "endoltrinated" to be a leftist? Of course, I KNOW that the answers will probably all be negative, but I want to know if anyone believes they were. If most of the answers are negative, why do right-wingers say that we were "endoltrinated"? What evidence do they have of this? What does it mean to be "endoltrinated" for a right-wing? After all, aren't they the ones who follow dogmas?

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Unorthodox and experimental Marxisms

I realize /leftypol/ is a majority ML board, but I've always wondered why there's little discussion, for or against, the more unorthodox marxist traditions that sprung up across the 20th century and beyond. It seems to me like it's all worth taking seriously, but whenever it gets brought up here it's instantly dismissed as being bourgeois or liberal. Why is that? Shouldn't we take seriously all developments in theory, irregardless how neatly it fits into Marx's original DiaMat?

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RCP turns revisionist

oh fuck ok...Thoughts? Were any of you into the RCP?

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Full disclourse, I hate communists and I hate leftists, but I would like to know your thoughts on hiroshima, do leftist justify hiroshima?

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What was the equivalent of National Socialism in the 19th Century?

Americanism as well as Anglo-Liberalism seem to come pretty damned close: >One of the original white supremacist ideologies >Comes with its own original version of Lebensraum for the American people >The destiny of America and the White Man is to rule the world >Also incredibly pro-capitalist/anti-worker ideology >Muh volk ideology >Would have used gas chambers if they existed tbh >Came with its own racial caste system that the Germand themselves learned from

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tiers of the left

Lets discuss levels of leftism,esoteric/hidden forms of the left(posadism,egoism),soviet ESP experiments,etc

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/effort/ v.2

Link, copy, and screencap effort posts made by the community. Default post guideline ITT: 1) screencap + >>1 OR: >>1 + >text copied; 2) write short summary or why you think the /effort/ post is relevant for us. Please don't: 1) debate these posts here, but follow the links and argue in the respective threads; 2) if the link is already dead start a separate thread, explaining what you are arguing against and laying down your arguments. We tried these and the previous thread got buried for lack of bumps, while the content was pretty high quality. Feel free to debate them, but please, for the love of God, don't derail. Thank you. Example post: Pic2 is from >>564484 While the US riots are going on it is super important for the community to understand what makes good propaganda and what mistakes we should avoid, what tools we should use, so .pdf related is of a flier made by the community following these guidelines.

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Revolution and American Indians: “Marxism is as Alien to My Culture as Capitalism”

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Redpill me on Trotsky. Why do MLs hate him so much?

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Content Creation Of The Left

YOUTUBE WON'T LAST US FOREVER Youtube. A incredibly unstable platform overrun by reactionaries on the far right who, besides a few exceptions such as Vaush (if you even consider him a leftist) is pretty much right-wing run and owned. Youtube chooses who goes up in the algorithm and time and time again has shown us there not willing to shut down misinformation if it gets them the views. So I have an idea, a pitch if you will: A leftist run Youtube of sorts. Where the ad's on the videos send decentralized bitcoin to the creator and is community run. It's a feverdream at best and will probably never happen, but hear me out for a minute. A leftist version of Youtube, run outside of the mainstream capitalist system, where people organize there own communities, is amazing. A few idea's include... >More local content. Instead of worldwide content, which should accessible also, you should be able to narrow down to national, state-wide/province-wide or fully local leftist content. >Community based management. Instead of a CEO, there is a ever changing group of administrators and mods which allow the website to have a breathe of fresh air every once in a while. Incredibly risky but hey, just an idea. >Specialized communities. Ones for anarchist, tankies, socialist, hell even if you want SocDems, sure. But alas, alot of issues run in the way. Who would want to advertise on a leftist website, does this go against principles, etc etc. This is just a mere sketch of an idea in my head: I doubt this will ever come to be, but i'm just throwing the idea out there.

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Just how many advantages did the US have? Conquering the soil, they used plague blankets to biologically eradicate the natives. They literally went "lol, let the disease fight my wars!" During their war of independence fucking FRANCE, SPAIN, and the DUTCH fight for them FOR FREE. Slavery: "lol, I ain't gon' build/harvest shit! Let the blackies do it for me FOR FREE!" They had hundreds of years of free supply of adult immigrants, which economically is a huge fucking advantage, yet they made sure at every step to shit on them. During their "civil war" (which, btw, basically rounded up the forces of progressive exploiters [capitalists] vs. regressive exploiters [slavers]) thousands of blacks joined them and won, just to find out that their supposed liberation was mostly symbolic. They get through TWO WORLD WARS with no casualties on their soil, while the rest of the world burns. During the "cold" war they get a steady supply of intelligentsia through brain drain. Literally: INTELLIGENTSIA FOR FREE, while everyone else has to actually educate them, treat them, organize them, and ultimately lose them to the US. Fucking free resources through endless imperialist wars, CIA coups, etc. All I'm saying: these mother fucker parasites literally didn't do shit and huge benefits and gifts kept falling in their laps due to *magic*. If the US is going down as an Empire today it's going to crash HARD. Think about it: previous empires like Rome actually struggled for shit for hundreds of years and their fall was an elongated process? The US? Got everything FOR FREE. They didn't struggle FOR SHIT, NOT ONCE in their fucking history. When they go down, they go down hard and fast.

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Plan B for minorities

I made this thread a while ago but didn't get enough information, so I'm making this thread again. Since the world is turning more right wing as a whole, do you guys (non-white posters) have a plan B where to move to? Unlike our white comrades we can't go undercover, so where to go? Which country has low amounts of racism and is affected least by the shift to the right? Personally, I thought of New Zealand, but I haven't started researching them. Anchoring cause the OP seems really ungenuine and somewhat falseflaggy

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Soviet economist works and textbooks

Over the last few weeks I have been considering that it might be quite worth while to go through the works of soviet economists who actually were responsible for economic planning policies. Liberman, Kosygin and Kantorovich where the three that to my understanding are the best known, or at least where cited a few times in Paul Cockshott's works. So, I was wondering if anyone happens to have a pdf or epub version of their economic works. None of them are present in the Marxist internet archive, and in libgen I only found some of Kantorovich's works on mathematics, as well as a few official statement type texts by Kosygin, but no actual books. I was also wondering if anyone happens to have political economy textbooks from the USSR (or perhaps modern China or other Marxist state) in English? I'd imagine it would be a better way to learn theory than to read Marx right of the bat (not that Marx is bad, it's just that I don't think a biology student should start with the "On the origins of species").

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News 8/4/20

Lebanon: Protesters attempt to storm Energy Ministry amid crippling power cuts Lebanese security forces repressed demonstrators on Tuesday as the latter tried to storm the building of the Energy Ministry to denounce the mass power cuts that have plunged entire areas of the country into darkness. Teachers protest Jordan government’s closure of union and harsh crackdown Several thousand teachers took to the streets of Irbid, Jerash, and other cities on Saturday to protest the government’s decision to shut down the Jordanian Teachers Syndicate union and demand the release of its board members. Israeli jets strike Syrian military targets after Golan Heights attack Israeli fighter jets and attack helicopters have struck Syrian military targets, hours after thwarting an infiltration attempt from Syria by suspected militants who were trying to plant explosives, the Israeli military said. Rising star of German left quits SPD youth role to run for parliament Kevin Kühnert, a rising star on the left since he passionately campaigned against his party’s decision to re-enter a grand coalition with the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) three years ago, said the “time was right” for new blood to take over the youth wing. Swaziland communists warn of an escalation of "war on the people" after violent attacks by royal police. He condemned incidents of police brutality on Saturday in the city of Manzini, where people were insulted and beaten during the enforcement of coronavirus lockdown measures, and called for unity among the oppressed. Belarus Leader Claims Opposition 'Massacre' Plot Before Vote During a televised address to the nation, Lukashenko slammed what he said were attempts by his opponents to organize "a massacre" on the streets of the capital Minsk, claiming his critics were being backed by "billion-dollar resources" to create unrest. Supreme Court Does Not Decide the Future of Ex President Uribe The former president allegedly tried to manipulate the testimony of Juan Guillermo Monsalve, who was the founder of a paramilitary group called Bloque Metro. Uribe, however, called Monsalve's version a lie. Juan Carlos, Spain's former king, leaving country amid corruption allegations Former monarch, Juan Carlos I, is leaving Spain to live in another, unspecified, country amid a financial scandal, according to a letter published on the royal family’s website Monday. Mexico crime: Mexican police seize alleged oil theft crime boss The Sledgehammer José Antonio Yépez, better-known as El Marro - or The Sledgehammer - was one of the most wanted men in the country.Mexican police had been closing in on him in recent months and had taken his mother and sister into custody. Outbreak hits Norway cruise ship, could spread along coast A Norwegian cruise ship line halted all trips and apologized Monday for procedural errors after a coronavirus outbreak on one ship infected at least 5 passengers and 36 crew. Health authorities fear the ship also could have spread the virus to dozens of towns and villages along Norway’s western coast. Bolivians driven from pillar to post as Covid-19 overwhelms hospitals In desperation, many Bolivians have turned to homemade quack cures such as consuming chlorine dioxide, a toxic disinfectant, to treat the virus. The country’s health ministry warned against it, but last month Bolivia’s opposition-controlled congress promoted the chemical and the senate approved a bill for its supply and manufacture.

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what do you think about Hegel, anons? is he an essential thinker for the left, who should be studied and discussed? or is he useless for modern theory?

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DDR Jerk-Off Thread

>ITT: Post images from the DDR and interesting fact or resources on the country The DDR was certainly one of the most interesting and prosperous Warsaw Pact countries.Their military was also considered to be one of the best in the Warsaw Pact as well, from what I have heard.

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Rank these three in order of based: Tito Ceausescu Hoxha

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Fed Thread

Feds of /leftypol/, why are you still here? Can't you see that America is doomed? Don't you get that the Chinese Century has already begun? Most of you are quite skilled, and could make more money in the private sector. American government employees are financial conscripts. You joined because you knew it was the only way for you to get a decent salary while you were still young and a gold plated pension when you were old. However, it has become increasingly clear that the USA is unable to pay its employment benefits on time. Today, it is the unemployed. In a generation, it will be the government workers, just as in Cyprus ten years ago. The world is a big place Fed-chan. You can make money elsewhere, lots of money. Please remember that there are more Americans living abroad today than at any other time in American history.

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Batshit insane bourgeois historiography and ongoing fabrications v.2

Post 'em! You know what I'm talking about... Them fucking trillions! Them fuggen "nuffin good came out of USSR" shit, them "USA won the space race" shit! You know very well what I'm talking about! My previous thread:

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Climate and Intelligence

People here don't want to talk about racial intelligence differences because it's "Idpol". I respect that. But what about intelligence differences driven by climate? It seems pretty clear to me that people living near the equator are less intellectually gifted, and subsequently their countries became less developed.

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Explain yourself, America.

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America won the space race and thinking otherwise is just a hot take. After the moonlanding soviets just gave up instead of matching that feat, ending the race. The next steps in the space race would have been a permanent moon base and Mars mission, but that did not happen because USSR capitulated. USSR reached out for the low hanging fruits but could do no more. Also, first animal in space was American so there's that popsci mistake in there.

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redpill me on china

or whatever

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>Redpill me on Left-anticommunism

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News 7/27/20

Flag lowered at US consulate in Chengdu as China takes control Since Friday, residents have crowded the streets around the consulate, taking photos and waving Chinese flags as staff were ferried out of the compound. At least one lit firecrackers and another draped a huge Chinese flag from a balcony and shouted “China!” into the street. On Sunday, a worker hammered away at a plaque on the building’s wall for 20 minutes before leaving it. North Korea locks down border city over suspected virus case North Korean leader Kim Jong Un placed the city of Kaesong near the border with South Korea under total lockdown after a person was found there with suspected COVID-19 symptoms, saying “the vicious virus” may have entered the country, state media reported Sunday. Hezbollah says all-out war with Israel unlikely in coming months despite rising tensions The deputy leader of Lebanon's powerful Hezbollah movement on Sunday dismissed the prospect of an escalation of violence between the Iran-backed movement and Israel despite increased tensions in the last week. Sudan to send more troops to Darfur after deadly attacks Prime Minister Abdalla Hamdok said the forces would protect people during the farming season.Unidentified gunmen killed more than 60 people in the region on Saturday, and another 20 the day before, the UN said. Israelis continue protests against PM’s handling of pandemic Thousands of Israelis held several demonstrations across the country against their prime minister Saturday, with the main protest taking place in Jerusalem outside the official residence of Benjamin Netanyahu. Two activists killed during protests in Baghdad Two activists were killed last night during protests at the Tahrir Square in Baghdad. According to information from the hospital, the demonstrators were fatally hit by gas grenades. Jordan arrests leaders of teachers' union in opposition crackdown Prosecutors charged Nasser Nawasreh, the acting head of the Jordanian Teachers Syndicate, with incitement over a speech to supporters last Wednesday that criticised Prime Minister Omar al-Razzaz's government. State media said other charges related to allegations of financial and administrative wrongdoing. Council of Europe 'alarmed' at Poland's plans to leave domestic violence treaty The Council of Europe has said it is alarmed that Poland’s rightwing government is moving to withdraw from a landmark international treaty aimed at preventing violence against women. Coronavirus: Israeli court rules Palestinian prisoners have no right to social distancing The Supreme Court justices accepted the argument promoted by Israeli state authorities that Palestinians held in prison were no different than family members or flatmates living in the same home. Cuban Medical Brigade Headed to the Virgin Islands A group of 22 health professionals, including 11 doctors, 9 nurses and one administrative professional are part of the mission. Cuban Minister of Foreign Affairs, Bruno Rodriguez, took to Twitter to announce the trip and said how happy Cuba feels to share their experiences throughout the world. China reports 61 new COVID-19 cases for Sunday, highest daily domestic infections since March 6 China reported 61 new coronavirus cases in the mainland for July 26, up from 46 cases a day earlier, the health commission said on Monday, with new infections not involving people returning from overseas hitting the highest number since early March. Russia’s Wildfires Double in Size Within Week – TASS Wildfires currently burning across Russia have doubled in size over the past week, the state-run TASS news agency reported Monday, citing a source in the Federal Forestry Agency.

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was he based or a hack?

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Why did empires start promoting women as primary footsoldiers and pawns?

Is there any reason in particular as to why empires in the 21st Century have taken such a liking to utilizing women in their bloody quest for dominance? Shit like the US forsaking the white supremacist imperialist military for a multicultural one is conceivable since Rome and many others had done similar once subjects were sufficiently integrated. But what's with the sudden obsession with female soldiers, drone pilots, diplomats, etc. in so many imperialist nations? Low recruitment? Modern military tech actually managing to accommodate women as soldiers on par with men? Some weird ideological thing? I know why white supremacist militarism gave way to multicultural militarism, but why did millennia of patriarchal military imperial organization give way to "egalitarian" imperialist militaries?

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is there a left wing version of those right wing esotericist guys where they identify as neolithic farmers and try to reconstruct the neolithic tradition and get mad at the nomadic indo europeans for conquering them?

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The Kosygin Reforms

Many of the leftists that I have spoken to who subscribe to the restoration narrative believe that the Kosygin reform of 1965 was the final nail in the coffin for socialism in the USSR, as it restored the profit motive as the main driver of economic development, gave managers the power to hire and fire workers based on profitability, decentralized planning creating contradictions between the party and mid-managers, and the re-institution of wage labor in the soviet economy. Can somebody give me the scoop on these reforms? Were they really the death of socialism in the USSR? Or just the beginning of the end? Also, can somebody link me to some resources where I could learn more about it?

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What is a conspiracy theory you believe in? Or, alternatively: what is a popular conspiracy theory you think is bullshit?

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Why The Right Hates Masks

Lacanian exploration of why the right hates masks: tl;dw the mask signifies universality, which is incompatible with capitalism's subjectivity. Thoughs?

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Porkie propaganda out of control lmao

Porkie documentary on viasat history is saying how Marie Antoinette was a poor innocent victim to a wild mob. Don't porkies even like their own revolution anymore??

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How do you have a dialogue with guys who think it's tough to be a happy subordinate?

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Now that the dust has settled...

What the fuck was his problem? Let's talk about the Derg.

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unpopular opinion: burgerland will not collapse

I have an unpopular opinion. I don't think that Covid-19 will be the end of the American empire. In fact I actually think that the American empire will outlast states like China for example. This is a hard pill for some to swallow who have been circlejerking over accelerationism also the dengoids but it's true. The US is the only developed Nation with a population replacement rate (i.e. 2.11 birth or above) due to a combination of immigration and overall just having higher fertility. This means the population of America will keep growing while the population of ex: Europe is and will continue to shrink, even with immigration added in. You can see nations like Germany for example becoming desperate for immigrants in recent days, with headlines like: <Germany looks at easing immigration laws to fill skilled labor gaps now Germany is letting foreigners apply for jobs/visas even without checking to see if there are any Germans or EU citizen to fill it. As China is becoming more developed it's birthrate is dropping as well, partly also as an effect of the one child policy and partly just that parents prefer to put resources into 1 child only which due to patriarchal assumptions means it will likely be a boy, increasing the gender disparity in China which in the long run will further reduce birthrates since you can't produce children with only males. A gender disparity with more females is possible to overcome because females can produce children but obviously males alone can't. China has literally had a lower birthrate than America since 1991 and America has the benefit on immigration on top of that, whereas there is hardly any immigration to China. China's economic growth is slowing. People here underestimate to what huge extent the world's economy is dependent on America. When you look at some place like Sweden for example which didn't shut down precisely to keep their economy going, it didn't work, they got the covid-19 deaths and the economy there still went to shit, because the Swedish economy has a huge amount of exports to, you guess it, pic related. China's economy is to a huge extent, yes, even today dependent on exports to burgerland. With escalating trade wars/tensions etc. This will impact China's abilities. There is already a trend of deglobalization where there's re-shoring of jobs and production, usually with a high degree of automation (the Germany/South Korean model). There's also already a shift of outsourcing the remaining manual labor from China for example to India and other parts of south and southeast Asia: >Global firms look to shift from China to India India interestingly does have a growing population and a population of highly technically educated people (many Indians have engineering degrees). If there's an Asian country which is on the rise in the long run and has good long run prospects in the coming decades its India not China. The CCP's legitimacy in China is based on the tremendous growth it has delivered to the population. What's going to happen when double digital growth slows to single digit and eventually <3% growth in the future. Look at Japan and what low birthrates have done to their economy. We know from the LTV that population growth is a soft cap on economic growth under capitalism, which capitalism requires. Japanese disaster capitalism with negative interest rates and nonstop quantitative easing and selling of government bonds is the future of all capitalist nations with a declining population. This is the future of China except they are actually peaking as a middle income country and not even to the level of Japan. Meanwhile America still has tons of people who want to immigrate to it. Even, worst case, 2-3 million americans die, today 14.4% of the population is foreign born. the US has in absolute terms a higher number of immigrants than any other nation. Every year, 1.18 million legal immigrants come to america, obviously not even counting undocumented. Which means even in the worst case scenario (3 mil dead), the US will make up the population loss from immigration in a mere 2.5 years. The US can make up any population loss from COVID without breaking a sweat. And even if 3 mil die, these accelerationists have to explain how that would: - Stop the dominance of silicon Valley? Bezos has made billions off this pandemic. If anything the pandemic has strengthened american Tech. - Stop the dominance of wall street? Again, wall street is just a profitable as ever if not more. You can so oh muh poomps but still. - Stop the dominance of the US military capabilities? Does COVID rot aircraft carriers and nuclear missles? no? In any case the military is mostly made up of people under 40 years old who probably won't die of Corona anyway. - Stop the dominance of US cultural exports like music and hollywood movies? No? Maybe covid will slow down their production for a little while but it's not like everyone will start watching German TV and bollywood in the meantime. EXPLAIN TO ME, HOW THE FUCK IS COVID GOING TO END US GEOPOLITICAL DOMINATION? IT ISNT Some of you dengoids and accelerationists need a slap of reality in the face

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News 8/3/20

FMLN Holds Internal Vote, Prepares for 2021 Electoral Battles El Salvador's former Marxist-Leninist guerilla organization turned political party hopes to gain strength ahead of the 2021 elections.El Salvador’s most prominent parties over the last three decades, the FMLN and right-wing ARENA, saw weak showings in the Presidential election of 2019, during which U.S.-backed Nayib Bukele was elected on behalf of his newly-formed party, Nuevas Ideas (New Ideas). Guaido-supporting opposition block to snub Venezuela’s parliamentary election, allege they skewed in Maduro’s favor Although the election will not be held for five months, on December 6, the bloc has already denounced it as fraudulent, arguing that the electoral system itself is unfair. The coalition at the same time rejected the notion that they are abstaining from the vote, arguing that it was “not an election” in which they have refused to participate. Thousands of Iranian oil workers strike over pay MARKING a serious development in the country’s current economic and social instability, fixed-term project workers in the massive oilfields, petrochemical companies and gas fields in Khuzestan and oilfields of southern Iran went on strike on Saturday and prepared to return to the towns and cities where their families live until their demands are met. Iran and Venezuela Celebrate Megasis Supermarket Opening The Supermarket will make available a wide range of quality products which the Iranian industry exports to several countries in the world, as well as more than 1,000 Venezuelan products, from 20 national companies. Afghan forces retake prison after deadly attack by IS group Militants affiliated with the Islamic State group stormed a prison in eastern Afghanistan in a daylong siege that left at least 39 people dead, including the assailants, and freed nearly 400 of their fighters before security forces restored order, a government official said Monday. Report details scores of women missing in northern Syria after kidnap by Turkish-backed jihadists According to the report, which draws on reports from media and human rights organisations, the women are subjected to torture and sexual violence after being accused of working with the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). Analysis: Often on brink, Lebanon headed toward collapse Left on its own, Lebanon could within months reach a point where it can no longer secure needs for its citizens like fuel, electricity, internet or even basic food.Already, there are signs of the country being pushed toward a hunger crisis. Fears of a breakdown in security are real. Berlin protests against coronavirus rules divide German leaders According to officials, up to 20,000 people took part in demonstrations against the government’s coronavirus restrictions at different locations across Berlin on Saturday, amalgamating for a joint rally later in the day.Organisers said up to 1.3 million people took part, a figure that police denied. Scottish government prepares to reopen schools as new COVID-19 spikes emerge Pupils will not be required to wear face masks, nor will they be required to physically distance on school buses. “Enhanced hygiene” measures are required, meaning only more time for hand washing and sanitiser use. Windows and doors are to be left open. Vietnam's health minister blamed a more infectious strain of coronavirus for a spike in infections — but there's little evidence that any strain is more dangerous Nguyen Thanh Long, the country's health minister, said on Sunday that those infected with the new strain have infected five to six people on average, Reuters reported.Those infected with the original strain of COVID-19, which arrived in Vietnam in late January, passed it to an average of 1.8 to 2.2 people, he said.

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name some conspiracy theories paranormal stuff and/or esoteric stuff you believe in and why There's already a conspiracy thread up, check the catalog before making a thread

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Tolerate him or hate him, Jehu is unquestionably one of the most interesting thinkers on the Left today. He would agree that his work is profoundly incomplete, especially regarding praxis, but the analysis he has developed possesses the kind of incisive explanatory power that the Left has been sorely missing for decades. He's also acted a raging asshole on pretty much every social media platform he's ever touched, singularly possessed as he is by the belief that he alone has the correct interpretation of the argument Marx puts forward in Capital. He currently writes on his blog: , has a subreddit: , and an account: . He ran another blog previously: He's a prolific writer, and pretty much all of his positions fall far out of the mainstream, so there's a lot to potentially discuss. Some examples: - The 'single capital' analysis of the Soviet Union - The collapse of production for exchange - His idiosyncratic definition of 'fascism' - His solution to the transformation problem - His idiosyncratic definition of 'communism' Having said all that, I think the thing that really sets him apart from the rest of the left is his strategic orientation, best summed up in his own words: > If communism is the thing we want, and if capitalism inevitably ends there, then we should stop talking about "anti-capitalism" and begin thinking about how to forcibly drive capitalism toward its inevitable end. This is the approach Marx and Engels took in the Communist Manifesto, where they identified specific steps designed "to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible." > The productive forces are the material base for the communism we all seek. Yet, very little consideration is given by communists to how this can be achieved. Instead most of our time is spent whining about how oppressed the people are and how bad the capitalists are. > I propose we simply redirect our attention from "how capitalism works" to how we can make it work faster in accomplishing what Marx called its historical mission: "unconstrained development in geometrical progression of the productivity of human labour." Which is to say to prevent it from going back on this mission; to prevent it from acting as a check on development of the productive forces. > So, right here we can identify a fairly large scope for concrete political action that is completely at odds with the dominant "anti-capitalism" meme on the Left. The "anti-capitalism" meme is the most regressive and destructive concept on the Left and is fully responsible for both its pessimism and its marginal political presence in society. We should put an end to it. > We want to drive capitalism to its destruction and should propose every concrete, practical step that will force this outcome.

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Paul Cockshott discussion

Is he good? On his mild athusserianism, anti dialectical marxism On his historical materialism On his politics and empirics Aside from gender controversy The cybernetic thread which has been posted itt is a de facto Cockshott thread, if you wanna ask this one sentence questions take it to that thread, anchoring

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How does leftypol feel about psychiatry?

>Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin in the brain. Indeed, their supposed effectiveness is the primary evidence for the chemical imbalance theory. But analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. >How is it possible that medications with such weak efficacy data were approved by the FDA? The answer lies in an understanding of the approval criteria used by the FDA. The FDA requires two adequately conducted clinical trials showing a significant difference between drug and placebo. But there is a loophole: There is no limit to the number of trials that can be conducted in search of these two significant trials. Trials showing negative results simply do not count. Furthermore, the clinical significance of the findings is not considered. All that matters is that the results are statistically significant. Source: Anti-depressants and the Placebo Effect - Connecticut Patient Has Been Shocked 500 Times in 5 Years. Florida kids are getting sent to psych units under the Baker Act in record numbers The Terrible, Awful Truth About SSI Questions surround patient's death in psychiatric hospital Their kids died on the psych ward. They were far from alone, a Times investigation found Psychiatric Slavery "Checklist of Schizotypic Signs" by PAUL E. MEEHL, Ph.D Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory: How to score MMPI: "Although we may not know it, we have, in our day, witnessed the birth of the Therapeutic State." --Law, Liberty, and Psychiatry: An Inquiry Into the Social Uses of Mental Health Practices, by Thomas Szasz, (New York: Macmillan, 1963, p. 212; Chapter 18, title: "Toward the Therapeutic State."). "If you talk to God, you are praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia. If the dead talk to you, you are a spiritualist; If God talks to you, you are a schizophrenic." --The Second Sin, by Thomas Szasz, (Anchor/Doubleday, Garden City, NY. 1973, Page 113.) "Inasmuch as we have words to describe medicine as a healing art, but have none to describe it as a method of social control or political rule, we must first give it a name. I propose that we call it pharmacracy, from the Greek roots pharmakon, for ‘medicine' or ‘drug,' and kratein, for ‘to rule' or ‘to control.' ... As theocracy is rule by God or priests, and democracy is rule by the people or the majority, so pharmacracy is rule by medicine or physicians." --Ceremonial Chemistry: The Ritual Persecution of Drugs, Addicts, and Pushers, by Thomas Szasz, (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1974), p. 139.)

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Bored by capitaislim/racism

Have you ever felt not only dread but also just sheer boredom of all the stereotypes and cliches of all the shit that goes on? Like 4chan is fucking boring because it's all about that "I hate uighurs" shit but that's merely an example. Capitalism in itself is just fucking boring too.k Not only the mechanics of actually going to fucking work, but also arguing against it. I swear liberals just try to bore you into accepting their positions.

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/leftybrit/ Spitting Image Edition

we're all fine lads

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> / t / - torrents, magnets, and downloads

New Thread! NEW links! NEED SEEDERS! Stalin, Trotski and Niet magnets were made by me! PLE-please anon senpai SEED ME!!! >last one died Post magnets boys, I will add they in the next thread! links to! Any kind of link, as long as it's communist shit!

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Leftist Music General

Back on /leftypol/ for the first time since 2016, so I thought I'd make a music thread like I used back then. Lets all share and discuss leftist music. Id's be cool to see if anyone saved the old webms I made way back when. Obligatory GETchan link:

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Jordan Peterson: Neo marxism is on the rise

*BLOCKS YOUR PATH* what do you say, neo marxists? hes back >inb4 put this in internet general Peterson isn't an eceleb. Well he is but he's also an academic, even if he is a pseud TLDR: Standard kevtching about kulaks and then he pivots to hate speech muh sjws. Why does the right like this guy so much? what kind of fucking rubes listen to this hysterical man whinging about shit, and think >"yep, that's right, thats good profound advice it changed my life! I'm going to make this guy my new dad!"

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The Great Car Crash Theory

"Grandpa Found the Car Keys" By Villain Wins (the video that's linked) portrays a mysterious car crash. On the surface it looks like a normal car crash, man is speeding, it hits X object that makes the car uncontrollable, and finally it proceeds to the rest of the damage. The mysterious part of the car crash is that its impossible to locate when it starts or when it ends. Did the car crash start when Grandpa hit the man' car? Was it when he was going 7 bajillion miles per hour? Or was it even when he obtained the car keys? If fate is a real thing, then shouldn't the car crash started when the Grandpa was born? Hence the subject of this thread, my "Great Car Crash" theory, the theory being that people are born with certain characteristics that will lead them to lead great car crashes. Now the next question, when does a car crash ends? Does the car crash end when the car has flipped over and has been just like in the video? Did it end when the driver has passed away? Or does the car crash end when it's forgotten in the public conscious? If going by my theory it's made clearer, since people are born with certain traits to lead to car crashes, and going with the famous quote, "History is repeated twice, once as tragedy, second as farce", this would then imply that this car crash actually ends during the second time it occurs. However though the second time is vague in itself, since a second time can actually be the fourth time and everything else was just the "first time". Leading only to the logical conclusion that a car crash never ends, it's forever lives on as an enigma. Since a car crash then can never end, it can never start, which finally leads us to this point: A car crash never starts or ends, it just happens. What do you think /leftypol/?

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How many wumao operate on this board at any given time of day?

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Were 50s and 60s last time when capitalism actually worked?

When I mean worked, I mean, it wasn't state of crisis as it is today, and gained actual ""benefit"" to capitalists, which actually didn't do anything crazy or outstanding as they are doing today (marketing and production wise). Capitalists in 50s and 60s did just whatever they were doing in 20s and it was working for them. Also employment was actually high (real employment,not jackshit that exist today), that means they had a lot of money to throw away. Am I wrong? What happened after 60s? Why capitalism entered it's dead end after 1968?

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Back To The 19th Century

>be me >be late 20s >work 6 days a week >can't afford my own place At this point, I have no idea how anyone under 30 is in favour of this bullshit anymore. What the fuck is the point of living like this? It's so fucking obvious that capitalism is in a deep crisis and the only reason we tolerate it is because Boomers won't let us end it peacefully. If we don't at least get some goddamned land reform, I am going to go full praxis. I don't like being forced to think these thoughts and have these feelings by a class of people who've never wanted for anything or ever had to actually learn a valuable skill. A landlord is a leech with legs.

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Is Trump secretly one of us?

Something clicked in my head. What if Trump is such a brilliant actor that he even has the left fooled? After all, all he ever was WAS an actor. Through his presidency, all he has done is lay bare the ugly truths of America, the American government and corporate greed. What if this has all been a false flag operation and Trump really did mean he was going to drain the swamp by revealing it to the people, who are now rising up in revolutionary protest against it? OP you're 4 years too late for the "is trump secretly a commie" conspiracy shit, if you must discuss this shit, take it to the multiple conspiracy threads already up, anchoring for low effort

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Thread about all the shit that is happening in the Balkans

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what went wrong, wasn't he one of the few far left leaning people of the labour party ? bumplocked: "fascism is actually leftist" bait thread

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Can Lumpens Be Revolutionary?

Basically the question is the thread name. Marx said that the lumpenproletariat were pretty much reactionary, pic related. Which seems true because the homeless people I see are drug addicts or schizo. They do seem like they suffer even more than a lot of working class people and have nothing to lose and everything to win, therefore if there we educate them on the other hand they might be involved? What I see on /leftypol/ before that I agree mostly with is that lumpen can be part of the revolution if there under a proletariat vanguard, and than once they get jobs after the revolution will be working class. I know that anarchists disagree but also the Black Panthers were M-L's but used lumpen? How did they explain that in their ideology and did that hurt them in the long run? An IdPol breadtuber on Twitter shared this which is what made me think. I'm not sure if what's in the blog is true or not and seems revisionist since they say that there aren't only two classes but don't explian further.

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Why does the capitalist class force the proletariat to struggle against them?

Looking back it seems that it's always been the bourgeoisie that fires the first shot in the class war Whether through conquest and colonization, enclosure, dispossession, depression, imperialist war; always it is the capitalists provoking the struggle. Even in our century which began with the capitalists believing in their own final victory, they have engineered the ecological collapse, an economic collapse has finally sprung unable to be stopped, and the imperialists prepare for war. With their final demand being to die, class struggle is now inevitable. Why do porkies do this? It's like that villain that reads about some chosen one and goes to destroy his town to stop the prophecy only to wind up antagonizing the dude and motivating him.

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Redpill me on DSA. I watched the one video of their convention which was supercharged cringe, but I'm primarily a filthy succdem by philosophical orientation, and they seem like the biggest socialist political organization in the US. I don't want to fuck with any organization that still has to work on laying groundwork. It seems like working within the DSA to minimize idpol bullshit and try and focus on economic issues might be the better of a variety of evils, but I would like to hear others' thoughts. Has anyone had any experience with these guys?

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Actually Doing Something General

You doomposting larpers seem to have no interest in effecting any change, preferring instead to do a bunch of armchair analysis and infighting. Reading theory isn't going to change a Goddamned thing if reading is all you do. People throughout history have died because they believed in dismantling oppressive capitalist structures, the least we can do is make some kind of effort. That said, there seems to be no consensus on what efforts those may be, at least in the US. The left generally is totally directionless as far as I can tell. There are no organizations or figures leading the charge on any of this. Sanders was the closest anyone has gotten in a half century but he has kowtowed to the Dems out of fear of Trump, and has essentially blown any shot he had of unity of purpose for the American left wing. So because no one else seems to be doing much, we should get off our asses and start doing shit. Organizing locally is probably the best, but things can also be done online. The alt-right was helped along and molded in large part by a concerted effort of shitposting memes, and the nascent left movement could be guided in the same way. Glowies are likely doing their best to fracture the movement with idpol before it can get off the ground, so there needs to be a concerted effort to counter psy ops with memes. Please give suggestions on what things can be done. I know little about hacking, but even things like DDoS attacks could potentially be useful under the right circumstances. If I'm totally off-base with this and there really are already established avenues of effecting real change, please let me know. But from my experiences here and in other left spaces online, there seems to be more interest in complaining than in doing anything. Please share your thoughts.

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Do serious mutualists still even exist?

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How do pirates, vagabonds, bandits, and organized crime fit into marxist theory?

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/IG/ - Internet General

Discuss e-celebs, lefty youtube, twitter, twitch, etc.

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Work or Anti-Work?

Recently there's been a slight spat on twitter arguing about the relationship of Work and leftism in general, this is about as far as I know on how to even approach this: >On Work As it is now, work can be described as trading your personal time producing/providing commodities /services for an arbitrary amount of fiat usually given by someone that owns the means to carry out such tasks, whom then takes said commodities/services to be sold at a much higher margin in comparison to the amount of fiat given however, the reason why someone would accept this is due to how unless one owns (or partially owns in the form of stocks/shares/investments etc.) said means/platform (or decides to be a landlord), work is largely a necessity, welfare even if provided either does not suffice or often is under threat of being removed by changes in the political sphere, making it's existence incredibly frail and ineffective Now the usual idea thrown around is such work (and it's relations) being non-existent after achieving communism, the point of contention comes during transition to such a state, or if certain situations would necessitate a regression to it. >transition to communism? why not just go for it immediately? I see alot of arguments over the need for transition, mostly centered around how currently we already have a surplus of production, but this surplus exists within capitalism and is unlikely to be sustainable or unexploitative, along with how even if climate change, zero-profits and growing governmental distrust intensify, there is no guarantee that the major powers of the world will all be weakened enough for a global revolution, thus resulting in a similar scenario of the post-WW1/2 period, where nations affected less significantly by these catastrophes became the dominant world powers (well, specifically the united states) , which would (for a time) eliminate the chance of a global revolution and thus an immediate transition to communism (since these world powers would no doubt flex their power and provide moral or literal incentives for their citizens to crush whatever revolutions would occur globally), additional factors include historical racial griefs, ethnic tensions, religious differences/parties, class sympathies (sure, jeff bezos is deplorable, but the average person would still very much question or disagree the repression of local businesses, especially if it's a local food-store they like or something along the lines of petty bourgeoisie etc.) which are unlikely to dissolve without significant repression (especially in the case of religion), in short unless the stars align in a miraculous display of spontaneous global commitment and cooperation towards achieving communism, this seems incredibly unlikely >what's the issue with work then? how could it still be necessary? isn't automation already pretty advanced? don't humans naturally productively carry out their interests, thus merely needing mutual aid to guide them? (Before I go on, I must clarify for those of whom are truly unable to act, like someone in a vegetative state, or recovering from traumatic experiences, this doesn't apply) On automation, while much already has been automated, it's current progress relies on capitalism, it's capacity would likely be (temporarily) greatly reduced during an interim where planning must be done on how to continue said automation without the exploitation involved in it's previous form, IE: how can we make machines less reliant on planned obsolescence, while also maintaining their potential for upgrades and repairs? It would also require a great deal of citizenry to submit to the idea of automation, which likely will meet pushback (no drivable cars on automated roads, a preference for human doctors over automated ones). Additionally, many fundamentals of certain automative technologies (most evidently facial recognition) may have algorithms or data-sets that were produced under capitalism, resulting in biases of which may effect their use. All these (along with even more factors) preclude automation as a realistic answer to eliminating work as a necessity (at least as of 2020, I don't exactly know how long it would take to iron out such problems, if it is at all plausible to do so under capitalism) As for a reliance on innate human passion/interest, these two factors are not nearly enough in the modern era: while emerging technologies (3d-printing, CNC machines, aquaculture, vertical farming) may allow for a small scale production and satisfaction of needs, most modern processes require industries doing things on a mass-scale (which is rarely appreciated), unless a significant regression in living standards is deemed acceptable, it seems highly unlikely small-scale operations would be acceptable in the long term. Of course, people could have passion/interest in working such jobs, but as of now most do it out of monetary reasons (aka: Necessity), leaving such key industries (of which require dedication, training, a willingness to face danger, etc.) to human interest is rather hazardous since it would result in a very inconsistent ability to meet the needs put forth by the general population With these considerations, it seems unlikely that work (although at least liberated from wage-theft) would be unnecessary in a transitional period, it could be compensated with labour-vouchers based on risk, time spent etc, distributed fairly with what a person is physically & mentally capable of doing and ideally would be at least somewhat aligned with the person's interests, but it's likely work would still be mandatory: based on situational requirements (such as a lack of manpower for infrastructure repair) Even during the post transition period of a communist world, it is likely (unless we have significant improvements in technology) that work would still become a necessity in times of significant emergency, such as wars or global catastrophes, of course, I have heard arguments for mutual-aid/distributed forms of solutions for such scenarios, but these problems require such a global level of coordination that I do not know how reliable it would be to rely on such distributed methods, most evidently with the example of COVID-19, where the spread of such a pandemic easily exploits any level of distrust towards centralized policies of mass testing, lockdowns etc. >Well, how does your work differ from the wage-slavery of now then? Well (at least, as far as I understand it), firstly, work no longer involves wage theft, and now guarantees human needs (appropriate housing, food, medical care, education, etc.) Of course, such guarantees extend to those truly unable to work, and work for each person is defined by what said person can do Wage-slavery guarantees none of these, subsidize and maybe free with certain conditions, but none of these are set in stone, and are easily taken back Work now is also compensated fairly ('fair' defined as not demand based which leads to ridiculous salaries in our current system) >ok, what's the point of this long ass post then? well, I just saw a number of leftcoms/armchair-enthusiasts and MLs angrily arguing on twitter, and they were straw manning each other on the necessity of work so hard and with so little clarification that I felt some post had to be made to counteract this incoherency.

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Hey I'm a Catholic with strong (and increasing) socialist sympathies. It seems to me that traditional the anti-religious animus of is tied to the fact that the Church was once an important institution of the ancien regime/ruling class. But that's pretty much over at this point. The religion of the ruling class is woke neoliberal secular humanism. So is straightforward anti-clericalism from socialists in 2020 an anachronism? I really hope so

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The need for hacktivism

There has been a major shitshow in Twitter, were numerous "blue mark" accounts were hacked and used to post things like pic related. This only makes me wonder: what would have been the impact if instead of that ridiculous Bitcoin shit, it would've been used for socialist propaganda? Instead of Bitcoin addresses, maybe a link to Towards a New Socialism? Maybe I'm being retarded but it seems like we're missing a huge platform here

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News 7/29/20

Government announces reparations for Chiapas massacre that killed 45 Those slain were members of a Roman Catholic group known as Las Abejas (The Bees) that supported the Zapatista Army of National Liberation. They were praying in their church when they were gunned down by the paramilitaries, who were also Tzotzil Mayans. Bolivian Worker Union Marches Against Election Delay as Tensions Mount The march ended in a council of workers declaring an indefinite general strike and mobilizations all around the country.The COB said the interim government of led by presidential candidate Jeanine Añez had used the pandemic to extend power and persecute supporters of Morales' Movement for Socialism (MAS). Fuel trucks explode in western Iran amid mysterious spate of fires and explosions across the country Six fuel trucks erupted in flames in the western Iranian province of Kermanshah on Tuesday. It is the latest in a series of unusual fires and explosions across the Islamic Republic, some of which have hit sensitive sites. Belarus Leader Demands Russia Provide Explanation Over 'Militants' State news agency Belta said the detained men were members of the Wagner group, a shadowy private military firm that is reportedly controlled by an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin and promotes Moscow's interests in Ukraine, Syria and Libya. Former Malaysian prime minister jailed in connection with looting of multibillion dollar state fund Najib Razak swore in Arabic with God as his witness that he wasn't aware of the 42 million ringgit ($9.8 million) channeled into his bank accounts. US to bring 6,400 troops home from Germany, move 5,600 more Spurred on by President Donald Trump’s demand to pull troops out of Germany, the U.S. will bring about 6,400 forces home and shift about 5,600 to other countries in Europe, U.S. defense leaders said Wednesday, detailing a Pentagon plan that will cost billions of dollars and take years to complete. Yemen separatists abandon self-rule but peace deal doubts remain The Southern Transitional Council's (STC) announcement on Wednesday marked a big step towards closing a major front in Yemen's chaotic war, and came hours after Saudi Arabia presented a plan to "accelerate" the stalled peace deal's implementation. Iranian sugarcane workers call for government to resign on 45tn day of strike action IRANIAN sugarcane workers demanded the resignation of the government today as they marched in blistering heat on their 45th day of strike action over unpaid wages and privatisation. British tear gas sales to US secretly suspended - and then resumed The government’s legal department last week concluded that there was “no clear risk” that the equipment has been used for internal repression, which would violate Britain’s export licensing rules. Vietnam locks down its 3rd largest city as virus cases grow Vietnam on Tuesday locked down its third-largest city for two weeks after 22 cases of COVID-19 were found linked to a hospital, the government said.The new cases in the central city of Da Nang are the first confirmed local transmissions of the virus in the country in over three months. Colombia: Duque Rejects Cuban Aid Amidst Pandemic Hardening “I think the important thing is to be clear that here there is no bias or discrimination concerning countries but there are procedures that have been established rigorously by the Ministry of Health,” Duque said.

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Did poor whites benefit from Slavery?

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>Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past Is this a good summation of anti-semitism? When it gets posted on 4chan all they do is call him a jew and make fun of how Satre looks.

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Karl Marx: A Nineteenth-Century Life Book by Jonathan Sperber

America is the bête noire now. Marx, like you, was a product of incompetent elites who could not provide full employment, social stability (forget upward social mobility), economic stability, or an end to the unending and pointless European wars. Much like now, most proles engaged in capitalism were miserable people who lived a hand to mouth existence. The only good thing about Marx's time is that the proportion of people living under wage slavery was much lower, since a much greater fraction of the world's population were dirt farmers. Technologically and medically, it was a terrible time to live in. Marx had some kind of skin condition that there was no real treatment for other than the primitive "medicines" of his time, like arsenic. Much to the humorous delight of tankies like me, he was denounced as an "authoritarian German" by his anarchist contemporaries. Part of me just can't believe that Porky still doesn't provide enough bread and circuses to keep new Marxists from popping up. The capitalists of XXI seem to understand the importance of circuses, but cheap out on the bread. #YangGang

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Our criticism in our critical support

Before I even start, I'm aware some of you will point out the fact that our "support" (defending certain countries which can be considered socialist/quasi-socialist and/or countries opposed to American imperialism) doesn't actually help much at all, materially speaking, and that our words don't really offer any real help towards these countries. While this is true, I still want us to discuss something which I almost never see among people who claim to critically support a country. So let's discuss this very thing specifically, out of the way immediately you support this or that nation, we know that by now, so let's offer our criticism to discuss what they can improve on or change. Btw, I'm only going to name the countries I believe deserve critical support, but feel free to name whichever you want. Starting with Venezuela, I think it's a good, pragmatic move what they are doing by securing diplomatic alliances with Iran, getting their help to bypass sanctions, however what I believe Maduro could improve on is definitely diversify the venezuelan economy and try to push for further to the left economic developments, whatever is available, it could end up helping them, planning specifically to allocate resources more efficiently from the economic siege they're under. For Syria, Assad should unironically read Marx (this goes to everyone here tbh) and try to further his alliance with the syrian communists by unifying the Ba'ath Party with the Communist Party, seeking the proper industrialization and development of productive forces (which are currently fucked because of the war) by pushing forward a NEP style economy. It would help Syria massively after they have won the war. Lastly, China. Xi needs to re-read Marx and strike against revisionism in the CPC. I don't know if he has his hands tied by most of the party and can't do much to change the party line but if he can, he has to. I fear that the CPC's concept of "socialism by 2050" will be the current chinese economic system simply more developed, and shit like a higher GDP nationwise, a higher HDI, lower Gini, shit like that. I'm led to believe this since the CPC has allowed state-owned media to talk about SwCC using this liberal and non-marxist terms to describe their type of socialism, which tells me that the CPC has a twisted view on what socialism is to mantain the status quo as much as possible. So Xi needs to 100% re-read Marx, drop the idealism which can be seen on videos like this, which utilize language as vague as "well-off" and "harmonic" to describe socialism, and push for an actual socialist development, and not what the CPC thinks socialism is. Here's the state-sponsored vid btw

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Donate to Ismail!

Ismail (the tankie guys with all the russian books on just created a paypal donation page so that we could help him buy more books that can be scanned. Link to donate:

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utrition and phsyical fitness under LS capitalism vs under socialism

I'm studying to be a fitness coach,and since I started opposing modern capitalism I thought of this,of making a study about how LSC influences,harms or benefits, the body. I think people here have good criticisms which could help me in my proyect. Some bullet points of things to consider: )cheap food mass-produced,but actually unhealthy. Food lobbies to bribe the goverment into not doing anything )phsyical training in the public school system. )Soviet athleticism and gymanstics. I dont know about this but I saw some awesome photos. I think in a world without money-based bragging rights men would work harder to improve their body and mind for the porpouses of mate-finding and ensuing procreation.Capitalism encourages a lazy elite who can't climb a stair.

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Leftist Author: IQ differences are real According to pic related IQ differences and academic performance are highly genetically heritable and the left needs to accept this reality, which is also why free college is misguided because a ton of people can't into basic math and algebra.

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Audio thread

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Does anyone have that picture of the three soviet buildings with agitprop murals of female liberation etc, and the modern version where those buildings just have coca cola ads or something on them?

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My thoughts on "Settlers" by J. Sakai

I finally got around to reading it. It is an interesting book with some major flaws and a conclusion I do not agree with. Anyway, here are my thoughts. There are many problems with Sakai's analysis. The most glaring is his treatment of the CIO and IWW which are either blantantly wrong, totally unsupported or supported by only the the most flimsy statistics and misquotes. His idea that the IWW wanted only white worker unity makes no real sense given their steadfast commitment to multi-racial, cross border unionism even during the insane xenophobia or WW1. If they had wanted white worker unity, I am unsure why they even formed an industrial union. Craft unions would have been much more sucessful for that purpose. Sakai alleges that the CIO was fundamentally racist and settleristic and that they really only wanted to use black workers. The actual evidence for this is extremely thin on the ground and Sakai makes multiple assertions with no real support, such as saying that black workers were drafted into the CIO, which simply has no evidence of ever happening. Sakai is sloppy to dismiss the historical instances of multi-racial class struggle, albeit in an embryonic form, with the CIO and IWW. He also leans too heavily into the "nations" model of understanding racial oppression, framing all racial conflicts as a simple National Liberation struggle, which leads him to bizarre places in his analysis and seems to misunderstand that while you can certainly think about a "Black Nation", the white worker and the black worker live in the same interconnected society. Sakai is quick to dismiss analysis of racism that relies on false consciousness explanations, but yet the "materialist" alternative that Sakai proposes is flimsy. He spends a great deal of the book talking about the wealth and privilege of white workers, setting you up to believe that all of them are simply net-exploiters who quite simply, do not have an interest in socialism as they are more like bourgeois profiting from the workers below them than exploited proletarians. They are not exhibiting false consciousness, they are fully conscious of their Settler class and are acting upon it. Sakai has to believe this, or else his analysis makes no sense. If white workers are exploited, then they have an interest in socialism and the argument becomes the same as Ted Allen or Noel Ignatiev, that the White Supremacist ruling class has given then privilege but their material interests fundamentally still aligns with Socialism. But how can Sakai think that all white workers are labor aristocrats? By sheer statistics, if he thinks that nearly all blacks are proletarian, then surely there are whites that are as poor, perhaps even working the same jobs as these black proletarians. And Sakai is willing to admit this. He does so tactically near the end of the book when he describes Appalachian whites and clearly notes that they are being ripped off, and explicitly states that they are exploited, though they lack class consciousness. So here it is, Sakai has fallen back into something closer to the false consciousness stance. If they are exploited, then surely their interests lie in Socialism, but instead of looking at this, Sakai makes a strange point about Settler culture without explaining why these whites, objectively, are not being fooled and have an interest, if only white society could be cracked open, that follows with the colonized proletariat. In his later works where he discusses the "de-settlerization", Sakai again tactically notes that a growing percentage of whites are exploited, but simply brushes off the notion of this leading to any revolutionary potential, despite this simple fact undercutting the entire materialistic analysis and reducing it to a petty analysis of some insurmountable white culture that keeps these whites, despite being objectively exploited even according to Sakai, from ever siding with the colonized proletariat. He simply calls the white working class reactionary and backwards facing and leaves it at that. He is no longer a fierce materialist pointing out of the facts of the exploitative parasitic labor aristocracy, he is reduced to a cynic. Settlers is a dead end. For the black radical it promotes an extremely stunted practice that would have no good function in the increasingly diverse inner ring suburbs that house the modern working class. It is difficult to imagine how one would organize a multi-racial workplace if they thought whites should never be organized. For the white radical who wishes to crack open white society along its class lines, Settlers obscures the contradictions within white society. I would still recommend reading it. It gave me a great understanding of America's white supremacist history and core and it does a good job of bending the bow away from class reductionism which does not really adress racial and national oppression. Ultimately I think Settlers is a rather incoherent middle ground between the two positions on the question of labor aristocracy. Either nearly all American workers are net-exploiter labor aristocrats, even the black ones, like Zak Cope says, or there is some stratum of exploited whites which Sakai denies, comparing them instead to South African whites, who according to Sakai produced ZERO surplus value.

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/lefty/ approved documentaries

Any other good and informative documentaries? Particularly about history? I'm realizing that I'm kind of an idiot about world history.

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Shitty Historical Figures We Could Have Done Without

Hard mode: No Hitler, Stalin, and Trotsky.

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>be me >Muslim living in the west >leftist friends tell me that China is doing a good job with uyghurs and that the state should do the same with the Muslim in the west despite us being one of the most integrated minorities in the US >mfw So at this point for a Muslim I'm screwed whether the right or left wins Anchoring for arguing in bad faith and topic spam, there's already a uyghur and China thread in the catalog, check there before making a thread

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News 8/1/20

Milos Jakes, Czech Communist Leader, Is Dead at 97 Milos Jakes, the head of the Communist Party in what was then Czechoslovakia during the tumultuous two years that ended Communist domination of the country and resulted in the election of the playwright Vaclav Havel as president in December 1989, has died. He was 97. North Korea’s Economy Grew in 2019, Despite International Sanctions North Korea’s economy grew by 0.4% in 2019, the first time Pyongyang posted positive growth in three years, South Korea’s central bank said, helped by increased construction activity and expanded agricultural output.But North Korea watchers cautioned against reading this as a sign of a recovery for Pyongyang’s sanctions-hit economy. Chile Takes to the Streets Against President Sebastian Piñera Chile's social leaders and activists condemned President Sebastian Piñera's omission of human rights violations and mishandling of the pandemic in his administration's public account presentation to Congress on Friday. Activists occupy arms dealer’s office in defence of Palestine ACTIVISTS occupied the central London office of an Israeli weapons firm today to draw attention to Britain’s complicity in war crimes against the Palestinians.Four members of newly launched network Palestine Action entered 77 Kingsway in Holborn, where Elbit Systems – Israel’s biggest private arms company – has its British HQ. Russian Far East Protesters Turn Out by the Thousands as Crackdown Intensifies As the rain beat down, a sea of umbrellas filled the valley that has become part of the well-trodden path protesters take on their daily march around the city of Khabarovsk in Russia’s Far East. Iraq announces parliamentary elections for June 2021 In an attempt to fulfil a key pledge made to anti-government protesters, Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi said he would attempt to ensure the fairness of the announced polls."Everything will be done to protect and ensure the success of these polls," Kadhimi said in a televised speech. Pakistan artillery kills 15 civilians in Afghanistan, Kabul says, after border clashes The artillery fire came after clashes between Pakistani and Afghan security forces at the closed Chaman-Spin Boldak border crossing, where crowds on both sides were waiting to cross for the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha. Botham and PM's brother to join House of Lords The 64-year-old, a strong supporter of Brexit, is among 36 new peers, who also include former Chancellors Ken Clarke and Philip Hammond. 1 soldier killed, 3 others wounded in clash with NPA in Ilocos Sur A Philippine Army soldier belonging to the 81st Infantry Battalion died and 3 others were wounded in an encounter with the New People's Army in Barangay Dili, Sta. Cruz, Ilocos Sur Friday, July 31. South Korea sect leader arrested over coronavirus outbreak South Korean authorities arrested the founder of a secretive Christian sect at the centre of the country’s largest outbreak of COVID-19 infections on Saturday for allegedly hiding crucial information from contact-tracers and other offences. Mexico No. 3 in virus deaths; storm could hinder US response Mexico now has the third most COVID-19 deaths in the world, behind Brazil and the United States, where a hurricane bearing down on the East Coast on Saturday is threatening to complicate efforts to contain the virus.

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How did we go from this?

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Did Stalin do him dirty?

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Nanjie is one of the last Maoist villages in Chengguang, Linying, Henan. The village GDP achieved 100 million yuan in 1992 and they reject autistic Dengoid policies. The village collectivized its agriculture production and industry. Is this the future that the rest of China should adopt? Sauce:

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Had the bolshevik jews damned the soviet union to fail with their oppression of the deeply christitian majority, alienating itself even more from the proletariat? Anchoring for anti-communism, idpol baiting, and low effort shit

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How tf were the Anglos of all fucking people seen as the "World's Policeman"?

Is it because they beat the shit out of the global poor the most?

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Capital by Marx

First time reader here Is it ok to ask some questions? Maybe some other comrades who have not read this can join in this thread and we can read together. Anyway I am puzzled by this passage: >The introduction of power-looms into England, for example, probably reduced by one half the Labour required to convert a given quantity of yarn into woven fabric. In order to do this, the English hand-loom weaver in fact needed the same amount of Labour-time as before; but the product of his individual hour of labour now only represented half an hour of social labour, and consequently fell to one half its former value. Is the point here that for the hand weaver, the social labour fell not because of anything he did but because of the outside forces that had invented a new technology? Thus is social labour a sort of floating value that is dependent on the most productive technology in operation? If for example someone invented a gizmo that could produce 10,000 bolts of cotton in one second, would we see that the hand weaver, carrying on usual, see his product represent a social labour of a tiny fraction of a second?

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Glowie AMA on reddit gets BTFO: How?

Sophie Richardson did an AMA on reddit's worldnews subforum. She is the "China Director" of the Human Rights Watch and industriously authors dozens of articles a quarter manufacturing consent for the balkanization of China: Basically a run-of-the-mill warmongering goon, as far as propagandists go. What I am interested in is understanding how she was BTFO by reddit in her AMA: Reddit's upvote/downvote scheme makes it one of the most resonant echochambers on the internet and it is possibly the most vociferously anti-China website around. Its users are also profoundly uncritical, easily misled, and resolutely misinformed. So what has happened that on a default subreddit, chinaposters managed to obliterate this AMA? Here are some fine rebuttals in the thread, but more interesting are the incredible vote distributions on pro- vs anti-china sentiments: > (72 points) How do you deal with the obvious tendency of the current US administration to vilify anything and everything China with at times very see-through propaganda and outright lies? Does this affect your work? It's unclear to me what particular "see-through propaganda and outright lies" would constitute the assumed common knowledge referenced in this comment. Reddit rejoices, site-wide, in the most fantastical of those lies: uighur cleansing, falun gong organ harvesting, 5G hacking; reddit eats this up. Why in this thread is everyone on-board with the fact they are being fed lies about China? > (43 points) How are the Chinese police structured? Are they structured in such a way that any abuse of regular Chinese (ie non-Tibetans/Uighurs/Falun Gong/Christians) will see them punished/reprimanded/prosecuted? Is there police abuse in China of regular Chinese even? >> (53 points) Around half of the police in Xinjiang are Uighurs Here is some great "Just asking questions" behavior: who is it, specifically, that is meant to be carrying out the uighur genocide? An uncharacteristically knowledgable redditor presents the contradiction: other uighurs. > (129 points) How many protestors were killed in hong kong by the police during the recent protest? lol > (360 points and several awards) Here's a write up from before when I did some research. >When you look at the evidence for number of people in the concentration camps, they almost all link back to Adrian Zenz or the CHRD regardless of the publication. >The method used to count the "millions" of Uyghur's in camps were from interviewing EIGHT people and asking them to estimate how many people were being detained in their town. >"CHRD, based in Hong Kong and Washington DC, interviewed dozens of Uyghur people in Xinjiang. Interviewees gave estimates of how many people—ranging from 8% to 20%—were being detained in their towns. It averaged out to 12% and CHRD bumped the percentage down to 10% for a conservative estimate, ultimately giving them 1.1 million Uyghur Muslims imprisoned. > > >Meanwhile the eye witness of the horrors in the camp tells a different story whenever she's interviewed. You can search her name Sayragul Sauytbay. In one testimony she said she saw rapes, medical experiments and was beat. > >In another she said she didn't see any violence directly. > >Regardless, witness testimonies must be taken with a grain of salt, see the Nayirah testimony for example: >It's funny how people are skeptical of the media but will believe everything that they hear about China with little to no evidence if it confirms their biases. When has calling bullshit on crocodile tears ever worked on the website that brought us Kony 2012? On the site full of Boston Bomber Detectives? This is a default subforum on the most credulous place on the web. What the fuck is going on lmao

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Out of the top 10 countries listed in the democracy index, 7 of them are monarchies. In the top 10 countries listed by human development 4 are monarchies. I am in support of a strong monarchy, with enlightenment values, and a healthy respect for the human spirit, because aonstitutional monarchy with a 50/50 split between parliament and monarch is the best form of governance. Anchoring for reactionary nonsense

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I used to think around feburary of this year that the best trajectory for the American left was to unify as closely as possible the few leftist parties present with unions such as the iww in a sort of pseudo deleonist line but now I'm not so sure Is this, and by extension deleonism, still tenable? Pic unrelated

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Is protectionism "anti-imperialist"?

Is protectionism, the practice of tarrifs on imports in order to keep jobs within the nation "anti-imperialist" or is it merely another kind of financial imperialism?

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Marginal Utlity

As a theory makes no god damn sense to me as an alternative to the labor theory of value. With the LTV, you have constant capital, variable capital, and surplus value, where variable capital is how much it costs to keep your workers showing up to work, constant capital is the means of production, and surplus value (profit) is the difference between C + V and the price at which the commodity is sold on the open market. And the reason why firms dont charge a fuckton for most products is because they would easily be undercut by a rival firm. And the reason why certain products do cost a fuckton is because it's more profitable to make people pay out the ass for said product because it is an inelastic good and even if most people cannot afford it, it's okay because value can still be extracted by the top 20% of the population who can afford the product, and everybody else can just take on debt. US healthcare is a golden example of this. While marginal utility is what? the value of goods comes from how much people are willing to pay for it? It just feels so nebulous to me. So something costs X because people say it costs X? If workers aren't exploited, then where does surplus value come from? Why dont socks and pants carry the same price tag? After all, socks and shirts share an equal demand. People generally wear socks as much as they wear tshirts do they not? How come a common tshirt costs like 20$ but you can buy a pack of a dozen socks for 10$? What are some common bourgeoi economist answers to these questions? And what are some common arguments used against the LTV by said economists? Also, why does the logic taught in mainstream economics feel so detached from reality and sociopathic? For example, you have the prisoner dilemma, where they teach you that selling out the other inmate is the better choice, even though if both of you were to plead innocent, you both would get a lighter sentence and the outcome would benefit you both? How can people believe this marginal utility bullshit? It's like saying grass is green because grass is green.

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ALIENS ARE REAL AND WE HAVE ONE OF THEIR SHIPS/posada was right >Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves. >Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth."

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Nina Andreeva dies at 91

Nina Aleksandrovna Andreyeva was a Russian chemist, teacher, author, political activist, and social critic. A supporter of classical Soviet principles, she wrote an essay entitled I Cannot Forsake My Principles that defended many aspects of the traditional Soviet system, and criticized General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev and his closest supporters for not being true communists. In the rebuke published in the official party newspaper Pravda the essay was called The Manifesto of Anti-Perestroika Forces. PRESS F

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>inb4 idpol burgeranon here. Is there any country on earth as cucked and pathetic as Canada? its a whole country which bases its identity off of not being America. Trudeau is the quintessential Canadian, the Canadian version of Obama where he is worshipped by liberals and considered this saint-like person. Its a whole country of liberals circle jerking themselves off about how good and moral and NOT-american they are and dunking on America by pretending they are better in any way. They aren't and the to extent that they are its because they just have a lower population and economy than America and thats the only reason they weren't as imperialist as America. They have the exact same history of native genocide for example but only get 1% of the shit for it. At least America has a population of leftists who are recognizing they live in the imperial core whereas the leafs are totally lacking self awareness and that makes them even worse. Canada is just a failed version of America which couldn't into imperialism so they console themselves by saying nuuuu we're not imperialist like those dirty AMERICANS. Their whole ideology and national identity is literally a COPE

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anti consumerism thread

consumerism, turbo liberalism, culture war shit,and generally anything that helps show the soullessness of living under modern capitalism.

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What Ideology am i?

I am economically far left, but culturally i am conservative. Is there any leftists that are also like this? (i am not nazbol btw)

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Belarus TOVARIŠ!

WTF is going on? A scum banker has 50 % + support in pols and Lukashenko is at 6 %? WTF You're gonna become a neolib hellhole dudes

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Direct Democracy and Federalism

What do you think about Direct Democracy and Federalism as a means of achieving social consciousness and the dictatorship of the proletariat? Why would/wouldn't it work?

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Leftypol Content Cheka 2.0 /Glowy Watch/

And we are back after last thread got buried. In light of recent advances in proletarian struggle and the accompanying recent grifting attempts from outside forces, I'm reinstating the thread to assist in analyzing, quarantining and moderating grifters and bad faith actors. Report attempts at grifting and derailing discussion. Shame and track for b& if they make ground. Happy posting.

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If bunkerchan has __ amount of money we could buy in order to __.

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The Labor Aristocracy.

I have been reading a few things on the Labor Aristocracy recently, from the original Lenin stuff on it all the way to "The Myth of the Labor Aristocracy" and "The Worker Elite". I wanted to start a thread on the general theory of the labor aristocracy. Who counts as a labor aristocrat? What separates them from the proletariat? Why does the bourgoise allow labor aristocrats to exist? Is the concept of labor aristocracy even coherent?

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thoughts on former american vice president Henry Wallace ?

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Is the proletariat destined to rise up against the bourgeoisie? Can they reject this destiny?

It would seem that, for socialism to be the historically logical successor to capitalism, class struggle between the working class and capitalist class is inevitable. It also seems, from recent events, that the working class is forced to engage in open class struggle with the capitalist class by the process of history itself. In a way, the working class has been forced to meet its destiny without even being prepared as a multi-level crisis breaks out at the start of this century. A global geopolitical crisis, an ecological crisis, a medical crisis, many internal political crises, and what may be the worst economic crisis in history have all converged at once. History has entered a very bleak period, the working class will be made to rise to their historical role or choose not to and watch civilization crumble. It seems that the final command Capital has for the working class is to die, their assault on the working class is incredibly advanced, with eugenics baked into policy, malevolent bureaucratic incompetence a guiding principle, war propaganda pumped out of every crevice, and anti-communism taught to every student. But now destiny will force the workers to move or die.

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>reading theory Id rather be watching anime and playing video game while drunk Anchoring for off-topic and very low effort

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THE TRUTH NEOLIBERALS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW Have you ever wondered why the primary argument over the ancient egyptians is racial, rather than sociopolitical? Wouldn't you think the nature of ancient egyptian society would be more interesting than how stylized their self-representation in hieroglyphics was? There's a reason the debate is so stifled and controlled, and that reason is neoliberal cultural hegemony, for ancient egypt holds a dark secret that the neoliberals desperately want to keep hidden… ANCIENT EGYPT WAS SOCDEM Consider the architecture of ancient egypt - Pyramids. Big Pyramids, Obelisks and other geometric shapes of smoothed stone. Now consider Brutalist architecture: Big geometric shapes of smoothed concrete (basically just crushed up stone.) - Coincidence? No. Fact. What about the nature of government in ancient egypt? We know for a fact that the government was centralized, that there were large forms of public works, and that there were heavy taxes levied, especially on land transfer. The neoliberals try to cover this up with their lies - they pretend that Pharaoh was a dictatorial, technocratic monarch in their own mould. FALSE, Pharaoh was a constitutional monarch like Elizabeth II (who is also SocDem.) Indeed, in the crown of the Pharaoh we can see much similarity between Ancient Egypt and Great Britain during her own later Social Democratic era, with the white crown representing the Northern Kingdom of Egypt and the red crown representing the southern - much like the union of crowns that took place in Britain. STILL NOT CONVINCED? Perhaps you wonder why the neoliberals are so afraid of the truth about ancient Egypt. The answer is actually very simple: Neoliberals are worshippers of the evil ""sun"" god Aten. Amenhotep IV/Akhenaten was THE FIRST NEOLIBERAL. He staged a coup against the democratically elected government after it began a building program shortly after he was crowned (although he would later take credit for the program as his own reforms collapsed) and set about destroying the traditional polytheist ancient Egyptian society and instead turning them towards the worship of a single god - Aten, notionally a Sun god but in actuality representing gold coins. In particular, efforts were made to wipe out the god Amun (who was also SocDem). Ordinary, Amun loving citizens were forced to remove symbols of Amun from their personal items by the neoliberal surveillance state Akhenaten established. He also tried to shift the focus of Egyptian art away from the perfect, benevolent-scientific forms adopted in traditional art towards a more populist, low-brow approach referred to as Amarna art. He also pandered to social liberals by having his queen engage in actions usually reserved for himself, instead of behaving in a traditional style befitting a constitutional monarch. He even set about vainly constructing a "global city" in his own honour - named Akhetaten. The waste of resources involved in constructing such a city caused severe damage to the Egyptian economy, exacerbating the problems caused by poorly thought out supply side reforms. Foreign relations declined during this time, as neoliberals - despite their profession to love globalisation - invariably fail when they attempt to bring their overwrought neoliberal IR theory into the real world. There exist many historical writings from this period of foreign rulers complaining that Akhenaten snubbed or cheated them. In typical neoliberal market-oriented style, he sent Tushratta, king of Mitanni gold-plated statues rather than statues made of solid gold when attempting to purchase a bride (By this point, a free international bridal market had been established. Mises would be proud), and due to his poor foreign policy many allies of Egypt turned towards the Hittite Empire at this point. Fortunately after 17 years of Tyranny, Akhenaten died. Following on the Spanish model of succession from dictatorship, Tutankhaten changed his name in the second to third year of his reign to Tutankhamun, and began to restore the SocDem ways of the Egyptians, moving the capital back to Thebes and restoring the right to worship Amun. The city of Akhetaten was abandoned just as his crazy neoliberal ideology, and his temples were dismantled for use in valuable public works projects. Eventually, Akhetaten was even removed from the official list of Pharaohs by the civil service due to his unconstitutional behaviour. (This was done with the acquiescence of the neoliberal/aten cult at the time, as they knew they had to bide their time to recover.) Tutankhamun began large building projects like all good SocDem leaders, he improved the economy and brought it out of the Akhenaten induced crises using sensible Keynesian demand management policies, and he improved foreign relations by acting firmly but fairly towards other states. When he died young, his tomb was decorated with gifts from various countries showing what an internationally popular leader he was. CONCLUSIONS: What happens next is a long and winding, confusing story. But who can imagine what wonders the Egyptians would have achieved had the neoliberals not sabotaged them from there onwards? And what of the significance of Egypt later becoming a member of the British Empire, which itself then took up the mantle of Social Democracy? What lessons in Social Democratic thought are waiting for us, under the sands of Egypt now? Sadly, modern Egypt has been subject to coups, wars, and pro-US dictatorships as the Neoliberals try to ensure we don't find out. One day, we will… What's undoubtedly clear, and has been demonstrated by me right now, is that neoliberalism has been tried before and it simply doesn't work - but there is hope! Sensible, Social Democratic rule is always restored. What we are currently experiencing is merely the trough of a cyclical battle that has been fought over generations, and will probably be fought long after us. But only if you get out and (a) vote and (b) TELL PEOPLE, let them know the truth: ANCIENT EGYPT WAS SOCDEM. Some believe that if you look at Concorde just right, you can even see the continuity: Those Pyramid wings. I am one of those who believes: Are you?

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What do you think about this man and his thought? I kind of "found out" about Georgism recently and I find it pretty interesting honestly, Citizen's dividend paired with Land Value Tax and Universal Basic Income makes a lot of sense in my mind and seems more achievable through gradual means instead of a revolution. Seems like the best way to synthezise actual social justice with the ""good"" things that capitalism seems to bring out, like entrepreneurship and lower prices through means of competition. I think I'm gonna be eaten alive by this but I want to know your thoughts on why this theory would be bad.

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How the fuck do I stop being a brainlet?

Read Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism a few months ago. Recently bought Kpunk. I'm not British and kind of dumb so I don't understand a whole lot of it, but the stuff that I do I like a lot. He mentions Deleuze and Guattarri, Jameson, Lacan, and everyone fucking else that has written something about critical theory in the English or French language. Is there a place I can start to get a better grasp? Are Deleuze and Guattari that hard to understand?

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/NAZIWATCH/ - nazi-glow conspiracy general

Continuation of this thread: >>694196 Conspiracy general. Highlights from previous thread: >The affair is casting Germany's security apparatus into public disrepute for an obvious, complete failure and is causing sarcastic comments from the press.[29][30] On 2 July 2012, the President of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, Heinz Fromm, resigned from his post[31] shortly after it was revealed that on 12 November 2011, employees, most notably Axel Minrath (code name: Lothar Lingen[32]), of his agency had destroyed files connected with the NSU case immediately after their role in the murders became public and the agency itself had received a formal request from the German Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) to forward all information relevant to these crimes.[33] Two more resignations of the presidents of the State Offices for the Protection of the Constitution in Thuringia and Saxony soon were to follow suit.[34] >Regarding the nine murders of migrants with the same weapon, the investigations focused almost exclusively on the victims and their alleged and actually non-existent ties to organized crime, the “Turkish mafia”, drug dealing, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and so on. In the murder cases where police investigated the possibility that these acts might have been committed for right-wing motives, they did so in a very superficial manner and leads in this direction were hardly ever followed up. >The same pattern can be seen in the investigations of the bomb attacks. In all three cases, which the police did not regard as connected, the police looked for suspects close to the victims or in connection with organized crime, and neo-Nazi suspects were never seriously considered. In the case of the bomb attack in Keupstraße in Cologne, the police denied the terrorist character of the attack and yet again the bombing was attributed to organized crime. This denial contradicted internal analysis of the secret service and the police considering a racist motive. >Most of the 15 robberies were believed to be connected as the offenders were always two young men fleeing the crime scene on bikes. But no connection was ever made between the robberies and the murders and/or bombings, despite the fact that many witnesses had seen two young men with bikes close to the scene of the respective crimes.

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Anti-Fascist, Anti-Nazi memes

Post memes making fun of Nazis countering chan memes

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Can someone please explain the labour theory of value like im 5 years old

How is labour measured? Time? What if I spend 5 hours making a mudpie? Won't that have 5 hours of exchange value? What are the main debates surrounding the labour theory of value? I heard something about Cockshott and Shaikh having different conceptions or smth

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Post epic riot footage

Let's collect all the best videos of police getting btfo/protesters winning and generally anything that looks epic from the US protests. Shit that can be used as motivation for resistance or agitprop or just to remember the food times. Vids,Webms, pics and memes welcome.

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/leftybritpol/ Argument Edition

Last one was deleted for some reason, so heres a new one

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Despite the economic collapse the anglo world are still sucking porky dick...

Are they fucking beyond hope? I don't know how the fuck Burgers, britbongs, and aussies can watch their governments funnel billions to the capitalist class while millions of people are on the verge of homelessness and starvation and still continue to go online shoveling porky's shit right down their gullet arguing in favor of porky fuckery Case in point shitholes like Twatland, Plebbit, and Boomerbook; how tf are anglos still defending capitalism when shit is being smeared all over their faces?

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Why is it that leftists forget about this?

I always hear the leftists preach about "their success" in the Great Patriotic War against Germany. But they always seem to forget about The Spanish Civil War. Why is that?

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Is investing in shares ethical and compatible with socialist values?

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Why aren't you a maoist comrade? Don't you care to have the most advanced and developed theory to bring about the revolution? Maoism is the third stage after all.

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Decoding "I have to work so I am a slave" and its effect on the system

If I am owed means of subsistence by society, someone else will have to do that work to provide me food, housing, healthcare etc. I'd rather work and serve others by working, taking risk in business to create products and services, and saving, investing, etc as best I can in a realistically free system without being promised anything falsely for free. A Socialist system, based on that promise, will have much lesser choices. Workplace autonomy, or increased decentralisation or reduction of hierarchy are unlikely in this system - the collectives/State will have to plan, allocate and make people work to generate all that (healthcare alone is ~20%) allegedly free stuff for everybody else. This is slow slavery of all by all, by and under the promiser of 'free' subsistence. As soon as someone says 'I have to work to pay for things and therefore its slavery/coercion/etc' they immediately imply they are owed stuff for free - from the wealth and labour of others. Otherwise, at what stage, other than things being given to them for free, will it stop being true that 'I have to work'? This is a completely unrealistic view of agency which is unaware of its inherent entitlement. The 'justification' for this entitlement seems to be the existence of the rich. Wealth can definitely be unjustified, for example from theft via cronyism. What constitutes justified wealth itself comes from capitalism: if wealth is created without harming others, by creating value for others in business in free markets, or given voluntarily, it may be justified. At any rate, I'd rather be skeptical of the power - the Party or the State - that is going to take from the rich and redistribute. Collectives are not moral, individuals with liberty and property often can be. And that power, which now controls us completely as it controls the means of production and 'gives' us food, will forever have to be on the lookout for success and accumulation. It will expropriate it and permanently pretend to redistribute, because this has now become the morality and logic of the system. It always starts with a large number of people who believe they are owed means of subsistence for 'free'. Bastiat: Government is that illusion by which everyone seeks to live off everyone else.

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News 7/31/20

Iran to pay compensation for downing Ukrainian plane and if Tehran stalls Kiev will take legal action Iran has agreed to pay compensation for its accidental shooting down a Ukrainian passenger plane, although details of payment amounts have yet to be determined. Kiev said if it feels Tehran is stalling, it may launch legal action. Iran's Khamenei rejects talks with U.S. over missile, nuclear programmers Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, ruled out negotiations with the United States over Tehran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programmes on Friday and urged Iranians to resist U.S. pressure. Joining the conflict in Libya, Turkey sees economic gains In Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s memo, Turkey and Libya lay claim to large areas of the Mediterranean Sea and the potential natural gas deposits under it. The deal achieved a longtime goal of Turkey — finding a partner to back its claims. HPG: Four Turkish soldiers killed in Şırnak countryside Accordingly, guerrillas hit a Turkish military unit on move in the area of Kato Jirka in Şırnak’s Beytüşşebap district. The action, carried out at 16:30 on July 29, left four soldiers dead and one other wounded. Brazil: COVID-19 Cases Increase, Bolsonary Tours Country After testing positive three times, President Jair Bolsonaro announced Thursday he is taking antibiotics for a lung infection and continues to downplay social distancing measures while resuming his work schedule. Nearly a third of Poland has declared 'LGBT-free zones.' The EU is denying funds to them. After nearly a third of Poland towns and municipalities declared "LGBT-free zones," the European Union has stepped in and denied funding to them.Six towns in Poland that have adopted the homophobic policies have been denied funding, according to a statement from the EU's Commissioner for Equality. Canada: The 'WE Charity' Scandal Shakes Trudeau's Government Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Thursday denied before a parliamentary committee playing any role in picking a charity with ties to his family to manage a major public program. Dáil suspended twice after TDs roar at each other over speaking rights Small political parties and Independent groups expressed fury at a deal they claimed would allow the Government to remove them from the early stages of debates and effectively “muzzle” them. UK MP who allegedly told victim ‘I’m a naughty Tory’ convicted on sexual assault charges An ex-Conservative lawmaker who allegedly told one of his victims “I’m a naughty Tory” has been found guilty on three counts of sexual assault. The judge warned the former MP that he now faces the “real possibility” of jail. Vietnam records first Covid-19 deaths The first man, who was aged 70, was from the central city of Hoi An, state media said on Friday.A second death, of a 61-year-old man, was reported later in the day.There had been no new locally transmitted infections for more than three months, before an outbreak was reported in the nearby resort of Da Nang earlier this week.

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Dismantling the surveillance state

>>736004 The revolution has happened, in response to outside capitalist pressures you centralize power and begin constructing and co-opting infrastructure for surveillance and repression. What exactly makes you naively believe that once those systems are obsolete, you will be able to deconstruct them? Why do you believe that once power has been centralized and infrastructure for surveillance and oppression has been created, it won't simply be used to justify its own existence? What is your solution to this? Are you simply alright with mass surveillance as a fact of life? A lot of you here advocate for mass surveillance and oppression in response to outside capitalist pressures, but nobody ever seems to talk about the consequences of building those systems, or else mass surveillance is just seen as a fact of life and you pretend like this isn't utterly cucked behavior.

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the revolution will take place in south asia (and the 3rd world overall)

I believe possibly the next place for a revolutionary wave is south Asia, my motherland Bangladesh has a history of socialism but a short lived one, we were about to become socialist but ya know CIA comes in bang bang then we become a dictatorships, anwyays there is a revolutionary potential in south asia for socialism to take place and succeed organising among muslim peasants and the working class overall, hell even students and other sectors of society, anyways what do you think? or is there still hope for revolution in the west or I honestly have hope for revolutions in Africa and LatAm and so on, your thoughts?

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Throughout history empires have repeatedly risen to try taking over most of the known world...

At least prior to the end of WWII it seems like throughout history every few decades some major regional power would make a bid to basically conquer and control most of the known world. I know the reason this occurs is because of how class societies function, sure, but is there are any more specific explanation for this phenomenon? Even in the post-WWII era the reality of the situation was more that the US was the ruler of the imperialist world in their alliance against communism and now the US is in a pretty naked squabble to maintain their world empire, so..

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/leftybrit/ - Dicks Out For Israel Edition

Don't get the coof

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Brainworms Anonymous

a thread for all of us that have gone off the trolley due to or in regards to ideology l used to be a fairweather socialist out of a normal desire for a world where my human rights are guaranteed (food, housing, healthcare, education) but as l delved into it l've ended up sympathising with movements that offer even the slightest semblances of the former, l geniunely no longer mind authoritarianism of any kind (think nk), l would work 12h on a field (think funny cambodian school dropout land) if l know l have free housing even if it's fucking shit or free food even even if it's fucking shit (think uneducated romanian yokel land) etc. At this point l don't even know why l don't just go fully supporting the current capitalist neoliberal hell, it's not like l'm starving or homeless rn so maybe l could idealise any of my current sufferings This has gone so far that whenever l am irritated by something l think that how will l cope when barracks communism comes around and l no longer complain or find an easier way to do things, l'm currently fitting these tiles in my yard and instead of carrying them with a wheelbarrow that l had in my shed like a civilised human l just stacked them and carried them with my hands across the yard because it's the harder way, fair enough it's not a hard task but l find myself often doing mundane shit the harder way because l feel the easier way will make me a weak faggot, could drive to work (there's not even that much traffic) but instead l walk 4 km (again not like it's a hard thing) because in barracks communism l wouldn't have a car or comfort, l've even started seriously exercising because of this, been doing 500 pushups a day because l can't be weak Am l the only nutter like this?

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Is there an archive for /leftypol/?

I want to look at an old thread that I didn't save

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Change my mind: Mls should be excluded from leftist spaces because they are not socialist

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why did leftists abandon Russia in favor to defend china or remaining socialist state? Ive saw this discussion from a /pol/ tread.

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Monopoly & Concentration of Capital

Lately, I've been seeing this argument on social media, mostly from anti-monopolists & reformist-capitalist soc-dems, that neoliberalism is what socialism actually looks like when put into practice. Their reasoning remains... unclear to me, but from what I can gather, they conflate the two on the basis that they're both statist systems of government that favor concentrating power in the hands of government-backed monopolies that gradually eliminate economic competition and liberal democratic political norms. They write-off anarchists as romantic dunces and insist that the ownership of the means of production in a given industry, if nationalized, will gradually default into the hands of self-interested bureaucrats and capitalists. They accept Marx's claim that increased concentration of capital is inevitable, but the only panacea for this in their view is to constantly break up monopolies, stimulate small business competition, and invest in startups / entrepreneurs. The claim that interests me the most though is that Marxists who advocate for trust-busting and the dissolution of private monopolies are incoherent, since the ultimate goal of socialism is to enforce public ownership of those monopolies. To quote Eugene Debs: >As a socialist, therefore I hail the trust. I view its development with supreme satisfaction... The socialists want the trusts. When they are ripe, the people will be ready, and there will be a change of ownership and operation. I confess to being too much of a theorylet to argue this point one way or another, but it did get me wondering, what is the general consensus here on monopolies? Most of the time I see leftists deriding the expansion of monopoly power, but is that really incommensurate with Marxism? What do you think, /leftypol/, should the trusts be busted or should we let them ripen? Also, if anyone can recommend me some good books / articles on the topic, I'd really appreciate it.

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Idpol moderation?

I'm just worried we can't talk about the obvious racism and struggles of other people Some people face hardships that are not just in the realm of class, right? So why should we not talk about that? Vol Notice: Also discuss here: >>>/gulag/6006

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I will look like Alex jones of leftists but, lets say a revolotion has happened how we going to beat the secret agencies/deep state

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What is the absolute best thing an American can do for the revolution right now? I feel so simultaneously overwhelmed and dispirited. It seems like it's impossible for one person to make any kind of a difference.

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U.S.A fueling new Cold War due to presidential election

China on Thursday accused the United States of stoking a new Cold War because certain politicians were searching for a scapegoat to bolster support ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November. U.S. President Donald Trump identifies China as the West’s main rival and has accused President Xi Jinping of taking advantage over trade and not telling the truth over the novel coronavirus outbreak, which Trump calls the “China plague”. Asked if he saw a new Cold War, China’s ambassador to London, Liu Xiaoming, said the United States had started a trade war with China and that there would be no winner from such an approach. “It is not China that has become assertive. It’s the other side of the Pacific Ocean who want to start new Cold War on China, so we have to make response to that,” Liu told reporters. “We have no interest in any Cold War, we have no interest in any war. “We have all seen what is happening in the United States, they tried to scapegoat China, they want to blame China for their problems,” he said. “We all know this is an election year.”

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Oldfag socialists

Im interested in talking with/mini-interviewing 40+ socialists. Is here a good place to do that? I want to know the perspective of people other than students or young workers.

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burger economy 2020 >The US economy shrank by a 32.9% annual rate in the April-to-June quarter as the country grappled with cut backs in spending during the pandemic. >It was the deepest decline since the government began keeping records in 1947 and three times more severe than the prior record of 10% set in 1958. Is this going to be the start of an actual great depression? same thing in krautland: >The German economy shrank at its fastest rate on record amid the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, according to new official figures. <The total production of goods and services declined by 10.1% during the April-to-June period. >It was the sharpest decline since German began producing quarterly growth figures in 1970. the headlines go on and on. I'm really thinking this is going to be a lost decade

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meme request

Does anyone have the dark/luminous wojaks used in meme related?

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Is there an organized fed campaign on this board to spread defeatism and passivism, or are a lot of you legitimately stupid enough to do porky's work for him?

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Why do Dengists exist? Is it a new form of autism? anchored: multiple china threads in the catalog and the China general exists.

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What caused Great Depression?

What caused it and 1929 Crash? I need to hear leftist thoughts in this, because rightist ones are just full of delusions How did entire system just crash and restart by just one crash and contunie on for 2 decades?

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Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election

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Max Stirner

What did Marx even not like about him? Why is he wrong? Was he even real?

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prove you arent revisionist

fucking prove it right now Anchoring for extreme low effort

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News 7/30/20

Bolivia's Regime Launches Lawsuits Against Leftist Leaders Bolivia’s coup-born regime led by Jeanine Añez filed criminal lawsuits against former President Evo Morales, the Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) lawmaker Betty Yañiquez, and the Bolivian Workers' Center (COB) secretary Juan Carlos Huarachi. Brazilian Health Workers File ICC Complaint Arguing Bolsonaro Covid-19 Response Has Been Crime Against Humanity A network of unions and social organizations representing over a million health workers in Brazil filed a complaint Monday calling on the International Criminal Court to investigate President Jair Bolsonaro's widely condemned handling of the coronavirus pandemic, arguing it amounts to a crime against humanity. Uruguay: Dictatorship Enforcers Sentenced to Prison Lopéz´s killing occurred in the framework of the so-called Operation Morgan, aimed at persecuting, imprisoning, torturing, and murdering militants of communists parties during the period of the dictatorship from 1973 to 1985. Hundreds of right- & left-wing protesters clash with each other and police on Tel Aviv streets Mounted police were deployed in Tel Aviv on Tuesday, where at least four people were arrested and a further five were hospitalized with stab wounds, after violent clashes between left-wing protesters and various right-wing groups. Turkey's MPs vote to tighten grip on social media Turkey's parliament has passed a law to control social media platforms, a move human rights groups say poses a severe threat to freedom of expression.The law requires social media firms with more than a million Turkish users to set up local offices and comply with requests to remove content. China says U.S. fuelling new Cold War due to presidential election China on Thursday accused the United States of stoking a new Cold War because certain politicians were searching for a scapegoat to bolster support ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November. Putin says Russia to get new hypersonic nuclear weapons Vladimir Putin has said Russia’s navy will be equipped with hypersonic nuclear strike weapons and underwater drones – implying the country was drawing close to deploying the technologies. Tommy Robinson flees UK with family after claims of ‘arson’ attack on wife’s property Anti-Islam activist and ex-English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson says he’s trying to permanently relocate his family outside of the UK because “they’re not safe.” It follows an alleged arson attack on his wife’s property. Gaza 2020: Worsening conditions lead more Palestinians to take their own lives The Gaza Strip has been witnessing a surge in suicide rates as it entered its 14th year under a crushing Israeli-led blockade.The Gaza-based Al-Mezan Centre for Human Rights reported that at least 16 people have taken their own lives and hundreds of others attempted suicide in Gaza in the first half of 2020. A virus cluster in France splits generations, raises fears An outbreak among 18- to 25-year-olds at a seaside resort on the Brittany coast is crystallizing fears that the virus is flaring again in France, on the back of vacationers throwing COVID-19 caution to the summer winds. Russia Coronavirus Cases Pass 830K Amid Vaccine Race, Lifted Lockdown Russia confirmed 5,509 new coronavirus infections Thursday, bringing the country’s official number of cases to 834,499.Over the past 24 hours 129 people have died, bringing the total toll to 13,802 — a rate considerably lower than in many other countries hit hard by the pandemic.

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I'm a long time fan of Caleb Maupin, but this video with him and Alexander Dugin has really a disturbing effect on me. I don't know what to think anymore.In his recent stream, Maupin has clarified, that he disagress on some issues with Dugin. For example, Dugin doesn't believe in historical progress. But overall, Maupin has a suspicious positive opinion on Dugin. According to Maupin, Dugin is not a fascist. I'm not very familiar with Dugin and his "fourth political theory", but what I've read so far, is very concerning... I just think its weird, that a leftist has a positive opinion on a theorist, whose work is usually admired by people like the identitarian movement. Is anyone of you familiar with Dugin's work? We as radical leftists, like here all kinds of personalities, which are usually considered as "controversial" such as Stalin or Mao. But some personalities are a absolute no-go, like Pol Pot or Gregor Strasser. (At least, I haven't seen open admiration for these people yet) What about Dugin? Can a leftist actually like Dugin and still be considered as a leftist?

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Why have there been so many idpol threads lately?

Are we being raided or are we getting an influx of new users?

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Supporters of insurrectionary anarchism have their own board?

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Leftist seem to take one of these 2 positions when it comes to praxis, something which is most important today of all times due to our political stagnation: The first is that history and the system itself will alone provide the agent and the means to radical change, the question that arises from this premise is when and how. The other position is that which deems active effort towards political organization and praxis as the true engine of change, the question that arises from this premise is that of how our praxis must take form. Both positions do not necessarily contradict each other, however, the ones which put emphasis on the first proposition tend to disregard contemporary movements as naive and feeble. This is of course true, sadly, and it's mostly due to how strong capital as got since the 70's and the corresponding emergence of neo-liberalism as it's ideology, permeating even the left among countless other things which cannot be mentioned. The ones who put most emphasis on the second proposition are usually of the liberal and idealist (in lenin's use of the term) section of the left, and themselves tend to disregard the importance of the first premise, something with which i do not agree, but nontheless cannot blame, since one can hardly do any politics today taking into account such theoretical base, but this is a path that leads to a "bad or undesirable aesthetization" of praxis, in the form of adventurism or lifestylism, or even spectacle or hobby. It seems to me then that a dilemma is placed upon us, in a time where our better theorists such as zizek have no other aim than that of supporting succdem as the best praxis today, but not without reason, since, sadly, there is no hope in sight for any political praxis other than that if one aims to remain serious and not fall in the above mentioned mistakes of the liberal left. I propose a discussion around this topic, and a series of questions: What is the importance of a movement today? are there even conditions for a truly radical movement in contemporary times? What can we do to "prepare the terrain" for such a thing to occur? Isn't this question itself contradictory? Is a strong movement, a beautiful myth, a fanatical ideology, the condition itself? Is the left itself as a discourse irredimable today? If we are going to engage in this discussion one also has to take into account the covid situation, and what kind of doors it opens, along with any other political event taking place that you feel is important, as the political climate in other countries might be different from the first world in which i live.

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aight give us some hope pills lads, 2020 has been quite the year and things are only getting started for the decade, let's see what can be done next and honestly it may be good for us?

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Will there be a civil war?

Literally we are seeing a something very similar to what happened in Spain during the 1930s

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Guys, I'm really worried about the state of leftist (marxian and postkeynsian) economics today. Not only is it frowned upon by mainstream economics (well, there's nothing surprising about that), but it's almost absent in the academia as a whole. And that's a bad sign for a theory. Yes, there's ideology, class stuggle etc., but in liberal capitalist countries there's no force, which could make these theories practically non-existent in academia. For example, marxism is considered to be acceptable and is well-represented in sociology, political science, philosophy etc., but it's a rare bird in economic departments. How come? Should we ditch our economic theories?

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Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

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/Christ/ Thread

Imposing an ideology on a dead pseudo-mythical religious icon is a little retarded I know. But occasionally you stumble across shit like this: "no one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes?…" and numerous other quotes in relation to decadence. What are your thoughts on Christ? If positive, do you think co-opting christian themes and imagery would be productive in largely religious nations like Burgerstan?

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Michael Brooks is dead

Michael Brooks is dead. No matter your opinion on him, he was most definitely a fellow traveler and a strong anti-imperialism. Made a nice 20 minute video about thomas Sankara and shit Lets say goodbye to him in this thread Some songs I associate with lefties dying. When Palme died this song was played. When my Grandmas brother who was a trade unionist died it was sung as well. Its a version of gracias a la vida in Swedish some other songs Post your Michael Brooks content

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Bring a crossbow to the protest. >they make no noise >do lots of damage >easy to use

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What age of consent would you, as a socialist, advocate for?

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Today I learned: USSR had small business.

Today I learned that until Nikita Khrushchev became premier of Soviet Union, USSR had small and medium enterprises. Thoughts and ideas? Why did Stalin allow it? Why did Kruschev stopped it?

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Reinforcing the quarantine as a cop

Hello everyone, as my last trhead was well regarded by everyone (there were some anarchists who were not so nice to me, but this is normal) I come here to tell you about my experience in this quarantine, some of you asked questions about it and I didn't approach it directly, now that I have my head in place, I think it's cool to tell how we're doing in this pandemic. > Actions in needy communities Due to the nature of the quarantine, we are helping with some student projects that bring aid kits to these communities, in these kits there are masks, canned food, flour, rice, beans, hand sanitizer, toothbrushes, shampoo and etc. These student projects are completely voluntary, we sponsor they due to the area in which they wanted to distribute the kits, the project has no incentive from the government, so as police force we decided to help. > crimes The crimes in general decreased a lot, but unfortunately domestic aggressions increased in the number of cases. > Drug trafficking It has been easier to combat trafficking recently, as people spend less time on the streets, we can more easily identify those who are involved in the sale of drugs. The difficult thing is now being to arrest them, our prison is full, it has the capacity for 100 prisoners, but our prison population is 135, we are transferring some to other prisons near here, but even so, if any of them are infected, it will pass the disease to the entire prison, we take extra care in this matter, but we don't have an impeccable infrastructure, we are doing our best. >kulaks going mad We have a local street market, where the kulaks in the region sold their products, as a measure of isolation this market was prevented from continuing, the kulaks here were completely pissed off by this measure, they will make a fucking protest on 03 / 08, most likely we will have to “intervene” in this protest, if you know what I mean, the kulaks rule everything around here, even politics, we are a rural region, the rich guy always turns the local politics into his property, facing these guys, even as a police officer, it can be something funny, but also very dangerous, if this protest happens, the PM here (this includes me) will have to repress it, I'm a little scared, as we are a small town, we’re not fully prepared for this, I’m afraid it’s going to happen like in Charlottesville, apart from the Nazis of course. > Tell me about your experiences with the police in this quarantine. > Are we taking the right steps around here?

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/leftypol/ racism poll.

Do you believe white supremacy or systemic racism currently exists in the USA? Are white American workers revolutionary? Can reforms be done to fight racism or should we just be anti-capitalist?

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Adorno and Sex

Not shitposting and i'm a great admirer of Adorno, but the his freudian tendency at time make his seem a more erudite /pol/ blacked poster. Not only talking about his comments on castration in jazz, but also dialectics of enlightment and some passages in minima moralia.

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Can we trace back idpol and intersectionality to this dude? >Quoting a non-existent 1882 letter from Marx to Friedrich Engels during a lecture, Foucault erroneously claimed Marx wrote: You know very well where we found our idea of class struggle; we found it in the work of the French historians who talked about the race struggle. What do we do about it? I heard people say he was closeted conservative or paid by secret intelligence, how much of that is true?

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Why are reactionaries like this?

https://boards.4chan .org/pol/thread/270077284 Why are they like this guys it hurts my head vol notice: please don't bring them here. thanks.

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Quantum communism

> (read this link and at least quickly over-view the articles if you think this is a "troll") So! If human lifetimes are indeed thousands of years long,or at least almost cyclical,then its in the best interests of humans to make think as good as possible for humans.Yes, a human could accumulate wealth if he lives a lot but never be a billionarie. This is unironic space communism;kardashev scale,let's go the whole mile! Topics to discuss. >what IS personal identity? >soviet sci-fi writers >future of mankind 1000 years from now

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bumplocked: promoting US state propaganda, assuming board consensus, low effort post, religious idpol, and obvious bait >commies here seriously defending how China is treating uyghurs >mfw I'm Muslim Why should I fight for communism if most commies wanna put me in camps?

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Why is america and most of today world today so anti communist and filled with anti communist propaganda ? Despite big parts of the population who lived throw it and like it ? (my family included) Why?

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How can I get started in organizing/general socialist stuff?

How can i get started in organizing? I don't want to be at the forefront. I have been reading various contemporary and traditional works from news to theory. I have worked a number of jobs and will be graduating from college soon. I doubt I will be directly helping the working class in my future job. Is there some sort of method or starting position most people get into when trying to break into union or tenant organizing? What's a type of organizing that is not given much attention? Also, how did you guys get your start?

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Haitian Slave Revolts

Why was it that Haiti was able to have a successful slave revolt where others had failed?

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News 7/28/20

Nuclear Weapons to Ensure North Korea’s Peace, Kim Says During a reception for veterans marking the 67th anniversary of the end of the 1950-53 Korean War, Jong-un remarked his nation's self-defense capacity.“We have become able to reliably defend ourselves against any form of high-intensity pressure and military threat by imperialist reactionaries and other hostile forces," he said. Communists' terror conviction sparks Munich protest TRADE unionists and communists held a mass rally outside a Munich court on Tuesday after 10 left-wing activists were convicted on terrorism charges following a much-criticised trial that lasted more than four years. Guj tribal leader questions arrest of three 'Naxals' by ATS Bharatiya Tribal Party (BTP) chief and Gujarat MLA Chhotu Vasava has come out in support of three Pathalgadi movement activists arrested by the state ATS, and said that labelling a tribal a 'Naxalite' was a ploy to silence them from demanding their rights. Bolivian President Anez says she is back to work after coronavirus Anez, 52, a conservative former senator who assumed the presidency last November after the resignation of leftist Evo Morales, said on July 9 that she tested positive for the coronavirus and would remain isolated in the presidential residence. [nL1N2EG2L Venezuela Denounces Vandalism of Its Consulate in Bogota The diplomat blamed Colombia’s government for the incident, pointing out that it left the diplomatic mission unprotected, in violation of international conventions. Lebanon's Hezbollah accuses Israel of fabricating border clash Hezbollah denied its fighters staged an "infiltration attempt" that led to clashes with Israeli forces on Monday calling the Israeli account a move to create "false victories". Palestine activists call for Scottish hate-crime clarification Activists from the rights group have raised concerns about the current definitions in the proposed Hate Crime & Public Order (Scotland) Bill, having been advised that legitimate criticism or debate could lead to politically motivated malicious or vexatious complaints. Uproar in Libya as French writer Bernard-Henri Levy visits Libya's UN-recognised government has disavowed a visit by French writer Bernard-Henri Levy, a champion of the 2011 Nato intervention that helped topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi and whose standing has plummeted since the uprising. Boris Johnson's government is privately 'desperate' for Trump to lose the election to Joe Biden UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government privately wants President Donald Trump to lose the November US presidential election to Joe Biden, according to a new report. Germany rejects Trump's proposal to let Russia back into G7 - foreign minister Germany has rejected a proposal by U.S. President Donald Trump to invite Russian President Vladimir Putin back into the Group of Seven (G7) most advanced economies, German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said in a newspaper interview published on Monday. Europe faces down a second coronavirus pandemic wave A resurgence of coronavirus cases in Spain and beyond have people questioning if Europe, which has already been traumatized by more than 181,000 deaths in the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, can reduce the impact of a second wave.

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If china is building socialist why chinese are basically yellow americans with the same Consoomer mentality? I don't even care that much about exploitation, so called chinese imperialism or chinese muzzi genocide (it's all cia propaganda). But this desire of west they have, the fetishism for consumer culture, material possession, the tendendy to commodify and standardize everything same as the americans do... If I despise the hyperreal neoliberal world how can I support china? If I despise consumer society how can I support china?

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Hinterlands : America's New Landscape on Class and Conflict

Anybody else read this? Thoughts?

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Acid Communism, a term invented by Mark Fischer, was coined in his unfinished introduction to a book called "Acid Communism" which can be read here: >Moving far beyond the simple story that the “Sixties led to neoliberalism”, these new readings of the 1970s allow us to apprehend the bravura intelligence, ferocious energy and improvisational imagination of the neoliberal counter-revolution. The installation of capitalist realism was by no means a simple restoration of an old state of affairs: the mandatory individualism imposed by neoliberalism was a new form of individualism, an individualism defined against the different forms of collectivity that clamoured out of the Sixties. This new individualism was designed to both surpass and make us forget those collective forms. So to recall these multiple forms of collectivity is less an act of remembering than of unforgetting , a counter-exorcism of the spectre of a world which could be free. >Acid Communism is the name I have given to this spectre. The concept of acid communism is a provocation and a promise. It is a joke of sorts, but one with very serious purpose. It points to something that, at one point, seemed inevitable, but which now appears impossible: the convergence of class consciousness, socialist-feminist consciousness-raising and psychedelic consciousness, the fusion of new social movements with a communist project, an unprecedented aestheticisation of everyday life. >Acid communism both refers to actual historical developments and to a virtual confluence that has not yet come together in actuality. Potentials exert influence without being actualised. Actual social formations are shaped by the potential formations whose actualisation they seek to impede. The impress of “a world which could be free” can be detected in the very structures of a capitalist realist world which makes freedom impossible. >The late cultural critic Ellen Willis said that the transformations imagined by the counterculture would have required “a social and psychic revolution of almost inconceivable magnitude”. 10 It’s very difficult, in our more deflated times, to re-create the counterculture’s confidence that such a “social and psychic revolution” could not only happen, but was already in the process of unfolding. But we need now to return to a time when the prospect of universal liberation seemed imminent.

R: 8 / I: 0 / P: 34 username & password: qmstudent Recently had to take a bullshit Quality Matters course about how to make an online course, spent the whole day criticizing this social systems course and how it failed QM standards, and basically we were instructed to take every ounce of fun out of the course. If you want to see what the gold quality matters standard for the course became go to qmstudent1, they fucking took all the soul away. Do whatever the hell you want with the course, spam it or learn, this cult took 8 hours from my life yesterday so I wanted to give something back to the world.

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Has anybody heard of this Class Unity DSA caucus? Seems pretty based, just wondering what y'all think

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Thoughts on this cable from China? It doesn't prove that China is commiting genocide against muslims, but it proves that it is jailing muslims without a good justification.

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Is a United Front necessary for current leftist success?

Now I know what you may be thinking: leftist unity is a myth, we can never work with each other, socdems/MLs/anarchists etc. will just stab us in the back and so on. However, I want you to consider something... There is a huge void in politics today that is begging to be filled by anything remotely left of the current status quo as people are getting more and more fed up with the establishment everyday, however, filling that void would require very complex political maneuvering that is out of the league of any single existing political party. So in my opinion, the fastest way to fill this void is for all leftist parties and orgs to join together under some sort of big tent left wing congress that could more effectively coordinate leftist political movement towards the shared goal of worker control of the economy, so you could have for example socdem parties winning small town elections and working their way up from there while boosting smaller but more left parties, while at the same time unionist/antifa/mutual aid groups could do more on the ground organizing workers towards their immediate needs and advertise leftist parties to the masses. I know this may seem a little unrealistic and even if it isn't it'd still need a few years to start coordinating that effectively, but I just want you all to think more about this as I think that in the absence of any major communist party currently gaining anything politically this is the current way forward. I want to hear what you think.

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lefty booru is giving me a privacy error is anyone else having this problem?

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Federated Imageboard Technology

I've been thinking of Mastodon lately and the idea of federation. I've also been thinking of gochan and the efforts here on /tech/ to develop a new chan based on golang. One thing that is learn is that the chaniverse, the 'alt chan' community is declining. Instead of writing yet another chan, something new needs to happen: A common protocol or interface which defines server to server and frontend-to-server operates. This protocol would be defined as JSON endpoints, possibly extended off the already existing 4chan api which is read only. Normal federation is based off of following individual users (see activitypub protocol), whereas this would be based off following boards/topics. The frontend-to server api definition would be there so that mobile clients etc can be made that are standardized, allows SPAs and mobile clients to use it while also providing an optional server-side rendered version for browsers, in case people don't want the javascript of an SPA. Also it would allow everyone to write their own chan software while having it all interoperate with a wider universe of alt chans. The same restrictions of mastodon (ex: blocking certain other instances) could also apply. The only think I think would be needed was individual accounts/registrations so that individual users could follow boards on other sites and it wouldn't have to replicate more than necessary what does everyone think? I am i missing any details? is this a good idea? crossposted from:

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Taking Intersectionality Seriously

Taking Intersectionality Seriously I have done something most people on leftypol would consider anathema: Read Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw Since 2017, Crenshaw (along with Hooks and Butler) has been the bugaboo of leftypol since her theory of “intersectionality” is widely considered anti marxist and is used by liberals to argue against socialism and even economic justice more broadly. I decided to actually read Crenshaw in her own words instead of listening to her being regurgitated by secondhand liberal sources. The sources I used: 1. Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence Against Women of Color 2. Demarginalizing the Intersection of Race and Sex: A Black Feminist Critique of Antidiscrimination Doctrine, Feminist Theory and Antiracist Politics These are relatively short writings (19 pages and 31 pages respectively) So going over them isn’t a huge burden. >Over the last two decades, women have organized against the almost routine violence that shapes their lives. Drawing from the strength of shared experience, women have recognized that the political demands of millions speak more powerfully than the pleas of a few isolated voices. This politicization in turn has transformed the way we understand violence against women. For example, battering and rape, once seen as private (family matters) and aberrational (errant sexual aggression), are now largely recognized as part of a broad-scale system of domination that affects women as a class. This process of recognizing as social and systemic what was formerly perceived as isolated and individual has also characterized the identity politics of people of color and gays and lesbians, among others. For all these groups, identity-based politics has been a source of strength, community, and intellectual development. Crenshaw is coming at things from a feminist/liberal perspective. For Crenshaw identity politics is really just marginalized people finding their voice that they didn’t use to have. >The problem with identity politics is not that it fails to transcend difference, as some critics charge, but rather the opposite- that it frequently conflates or ignores intra group differences. In the context of violence against women, this elision of difference is problematic, fundamentally because the violence that many women experience is often shaped by other dimensions of their identities, such as race and class. Moreover, ignoring differences within groups frequently contributes to tension among groups, another problem of identity politics that frustrates efforts to politicize violence against women. Feminist efforts to politicize experiences of women and antiracist efforts to politicize experiences of people of color' have frequently proceeded as though the issues and experiences they each detail occur on mutually exclusive terrains. Al-though racism and sexism readily intersect in the lives of real people, they seldom do in feminist and antiracist practices. And so, when the practices expound identity as "woman" or "person of color" as an either/or proposition, they relegate the identity of women of color to a location that resists telling. What is weird is that Crenshaw has completely the OPPOSITE definition of identity politics than us, since we would see her brand of ‘intersectionality’ as idpol. I guess this has to be looked at in the context of US-based new left/second wave feminist activism where various identity groups competed against each other in the oppression olympics (black activism, “white” feminism, etc.). For Crenshaw the problem with this old style of identity politics is that it fragments the struggle by ignoring specific problems subgroups had and the differences between subgroups. Maybe this was the case in the 1980s when she was writing this. One crucial passage is this: >The embrace of identity politics, however, has been in tension with dominant conceptions of social justice. Race, gender, and other identity categories are most often treated in mainstream liberal discourse as vestiges of bias or domination-that is, as intrinsically negative frameworks in which social power works to exclude or marginalize those who are different. <According to this understanding, our liberatory objective should be to empty such categories of any social significance. Yet implicit in certain strands of feminist and racial liberation movements, for example, is the view that the social power in delineating difference need not be the power of domination; it can instead be the source of political empowerment and social reconstruction. This is the part where she justifies what we (but not she) would call IDPOL. According to Crenshaw pointing out or emphasizing differences doesn’t necessarily have to be discriminatory, but can “be the source of political empowerment and social reconstruction”. <Structural Intersectionality and Battering What’s surprising in this part is that she actually tries to emphasize the economic aspects of race/gender. >I observed the dynamics of structural intersectionality during a brief field study of battered women's shelters located in minority communities in Los Angeles. In most cases, the physical assault that leads women to these shelters is merely the most immediate manifestation of the subordination they experience. Many 'women who seek protection are unemployed or underemployed, and a good number of them are poor. Shelters serving these women cannot afford to address only the violence inflicted by the batterer; they must also confront the other multilayered and routinized forms of domination that often converge in these women's lives, hindering their ability to create alternatives to the abusive relation-ships that brought them to shelters in the first place. Many women of color, for example, are burdened by poverty, child-care responsibilities, and the lack of job skills. These burdens, largely the consequence of gender and class oppression, are then compounded by the racially discriminatory employment and housing practices women of color often face. Women of color are burdened as well by the disproportionately high unemployment among people of color that make battered women of color less able to depend on the support of friends and relatives for temporary shelter. These observations reveal how intersectionality shapes the experiences of many women of color. >Economic considerations-access to employment, housing, and wealth-confirm that class structures play an important part in defining the experience of women of color vis-à-vis battering. But it would be a mistake to conclude from these observations that it is simply the fact of poverty that is at issue here. Rather, their experiences reveal how diverse structures intersect, since even the class dimension is not independent from race and gender. >At the simplest level, race, gender, and class are implicated together because the fact the fact of being a woman of color correlates strongly with poverty. Moreover, the disparate access to housing and jobs-that is, the phenomenon of discrimination-is reproduced through their race and gender identity. Race and gender are two of the primary sites for the particular distribution of social resources that ends up with observable class differences. And finally, once in a lower economic class, race and gender structures continue to shape the particular ways that women of color experience poverty, relative to other groups.

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Are black nationalists comrades or just reactionaries?

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Inheriting economically valuable land as a socialist...

So my grandparents live on what was once a farm not far from a major city, and the area around their house has slowly transformed into one of the most sought after and expensive residential suburbs. A lot of the old sheds and barns and small fields are still there, albeit abandoned, in the middle of upper middle class villas. Some of it is part of the old farm building, then there's ~2500 sq metres of building land. Me and my brother will soon inherit all of this, and we need to think of ways to use it. A local architect has already offered 400,000£ to buy it from us to build on, but I would like to use it for something better. What are some uses for such a piece of land that could in some way be productive for the community, or at least not entirely driven by greed ? As a leftist, this isn't the most comfortable of situations

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Victorian Socialist FAQ (Aus) + semi-official thread

Hey Comrades, thought it'd be worth putting ourselves up here to see if anyone is interested in getting involved/joining or just has some questions generally. Victorian Socialists is a recent electoral party founded in feb 2018 in Melbourne thats contested state, federal and now is gearing up for some council seats. > Who are Victorian Socialists? Originally a combination of Socialist Alternative, Socialist Alliance and independent socialists (Me) who've come together to make a far-left coalition to contest elections in Melbourne. > What policies do you have? The relevant council ones can be found here and previous policies from the 2018/19 election are also available on that website > Are you Social Democrats? The electoral project is, but the vast majority of members aren't. > Are you a front for Socialist Alternative? No, though they constitute the largest number of members and were both instrumental in setting it up/funding it it is *not* a front for SAlt > Didn't Socialist Alliance split? Yeah they did, not that they vert large or active (Though sad to lose Sue Bolton) > What makes you different from The Greens? Our policies and members are significantly different, though The Greens did nick some of our policies in 2018 and water them down some. It'd be fair to say that we focus significantly more on class/unions rather than just trying to get Green-Capitalism. > Is this thread official? I got permission to post this though I'll likely be the only Vic Socialist member to be posting If you have any questions feel free to shoot, happy to answer them as best I can. I am going to use a trip just to make things easier.

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Exploitation in China

is it true that workers in China get exploited more than their American and European counterparts?

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What books/podcasts/epic poems can I read to learn the truth about US government secrets and fuckery, i.e. CIA and FBI shit, COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, etc? I'm talking proven or as good as proven US government conspiracies. Gimme what you got.

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/leftybritpol/ Corbyn still hates Jews edition.

Literally Hitler.

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Class Position of Sex Workers Lumpenproletariat Prostitutes who work independently or under a pimp / pornographer Petite bourgeoisie Independent pornographers Bourgeoisie Business owners (ex. Brazzers, PornHub/MindGeek, Hustler, Playboy, DMM Corporation) who employ prostitutes and sell pornography does /leftypol/ agree or disagree? why does lefty twitter think sex work is work?

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What do you guys think about existentialism and is it possible to merge with marxism?

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i thread about watching the 2020 election unfold and most likely laughing at it