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New Board Announcement
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New Multitude- The relaunch
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5. Promotion. I'll be honest I have no idea how to do this. We have a twitter account twitter.com/newmultitude but not many followers and I see other leftist magazines getting loads of followers. Does anyone have experience in this or have any suggestions?
6. finally, thank you to all the artists and writers and supporters who have helped with the launch. There are some great writers and people on leftypol and I want to extend my thanks to you in getting this project off the ground. Solidarity!
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What if Hitler won WW2?
Would socialism still exist after?
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What does /leftypol/ think about the terrorist islamo-fascist attacks recently?
I must say the decapitation of the history teacher in France really pissed me off. But more importantly, the fact that some imams decided to condemn the teacher cause he showed a nude drawing of Mohamad. Will this reactionary behavior fade away with the wind of revolution and is it any different from our local fascism?
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I know people who are severely depressed to the point of complete dysfunction and yet are ruled by the capitalist ideology. For the longest part of my life "severe depression" was defined as a person who's so dysfunctional they can't get out of bed, can't go to work etc. But most super depressed people I see today are people who work, work, work but outside of that can't get any part of their life to function in a way that even approaches healthiness. My ex-gf was one of these people. She studied linguistics in UNI, then came to job market that had no need for her skills. What ended up happening was she became so depressed that she was unable to feel even basic joy outside of the most basic creature comforts. She was consistently job-searching and doing work of different kinds but outside of that her mental health issues started to explode. We tried to get her to take sick leave many times, but she wouldn't have it. We tried to make her understand that she's a valuable human being even if the chaos of the invisible hand doesn't recognize that at the very moment, but she wouldn't believe us.
Sense of worthlessness, paralysis of long term planning (indeed, of even imagining you can have a future outside of your current circumstances), seeing people who try to help you as further proof of your worthlessness. These are the symptoms of the modern terminal depression.
My ex got so bad she was talking about suicide every other week. When I tried to make her see herself as a part of a larger economic structure that's fucking hippy detached from the harsh truths of economy. Ignoring the fact I was both employed in a blue collar job, and studying a field that might actually bring us some money. Before we broke up she was finally enjoying semi-stable employment, but the uncertainty of the future only became more crushing by the little advances she had made. Her moods became even more unpredictable, and her general behavior could only be described as "undefined". Her life became a constant dysfunction, while her role as a proletarian became more functional as ever before.
I truly and sincerely hope that the class of people who impose this despair and manufactured insanity on the masses will one day feel the full brunt of it. When we're at a point your own family's attempts at taking collective care of you are naturally felt as further proof of your worthlessness, we have entered the eve of a revolutionary period. The people who not only benefit of this order, but torture others by maintaining this old ideology deserve nothing but the full brunt of the peoples despair redirected at them. They have created a mass psychosis of a dysfunctional status quo, so they shall receive a mass psychosis of a revolution.
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Socialism Without Adjectives - No more hyphenated and sectarian half-socialism!
Hello, /leftypol/. Today I'd like to talk to you about socialism, its hyphenation into many variations (eco-socialism, feminist socialism, libertarian socialism, democratic socialism and all the rest of the socialisms), the purpose of these X-socialisms and why we should ultimately move away from them. To me, socialism refers to the socialist mode of production while communism refers to the communist society, just to define the terms.
In the socialist movement, people might ask the question: "What kind of a socialist are you?" Being symptomatic to the variety of different socialist political identities and, in practice, a new kind of tribalism and identity shopping we see today (like the hipster socialists we are both online and offline/"IRL"), the nature of this question and its implications need to be addressed. These adjectives serve as identifiers for the "good" and "bad" socialisms in our minds, resulting in the segregation and division of parts of the socialist movement and ideology we may not agree with, causing splits and infighting among us.
Why do I call these socialist schools of thought, these X-socialisms (X being any adjective such as "democratic" or "libertarian") for lack of a better term, half-socialism? Because they imply the inadequacy and insufficiency of socialism alone to solve the issues contained by the adjective (women's liberation, democracy, freedom, environmentalism and the rest) and so it's implied socialism requires the other half in form of the adjective. Additionally, the end result of this dilutes the socialist part of each hyphenated socialism, causing them to be literally "half as socialist" compared to just socialism itself.
Here is an example: eco-socialism (AKA green left and red greens), a very popular socialist school of thought in Europe originating from the new left and being represented by the European United Left-Nordic Green Left European parliamentary group and its predominantly demsoc member parties. What is this in practice? It is a parliamentary and reformist socialism, seeking to build socialism through parliamentary reforms in capitalism. But what socialism is there, when the eco-socialists only want a highly regulated and taxed welfare state with social justice and emphasis on concern for the environment (a noble cause which, too, in practice is reduced to ethical consumerism and pushing the responsibilities and duties to the working class).
Where is the socialism in eco-socialism? Nowhere, as it turns out, all the while with a socialist mode of production in place and the abolition of capitalist production, socialism alone would materially reach the goals of environmentalism easier, better, harder, faster and stronger than any "eco-socialism" and most other "green" movements and ideologies. Despite this, eco-socialism contains in it the implication that socialism by itself doesn't care about the environment, or even worse, is for environmental destruction in order to reach its goals. Other X-socialisms contain similar baseless accusations: libertarian socialism implies socialism to be unfree, democratic socialism implies socialism to be undemocratic, all the while both have in practice and materially resulted in no more freedom or democracy than socialism by itself.
Why should we still hold onto these half-socialisms? What is their merit, if this is what they do? It is a matter of direction of the ideological transformation of individuals as well as the recruitment and radicalization of non-socialists into socialists in the following form:
Non-socialist political identity X --> X-socialism --> Socialism
This is how it is supposed to go. The half-socialist's transformation into a (full) socialist is a necessary step in the formation of a highly functioning and united socialist movement. This has not been the direction we have gone towards in history, however. Socialism itself has degenerated and gone backwards into a series of disunited half-socialisms fighting against one another and competing in the "free market of ideas" of capitalist society. Overall, we have not progressed or gone forward.
Why is this the case? I place a large amount of blame on the new left due to the political causes and phenomena associated with it, but the real reason for this is the appropriation and commodification of these multifaceted struggles by capitalism into itself. After this, they accuse socialism of lacking concern for these struggles and produce propaganda to back this falsehood up. The end result has been socialists accommodating these struggles as half-socialisms resulting in the aforementioned effects, each intentional and with the sole purpose to destroy the socialist movement. The year 2020 is almost done and material conditions are becoming ripe for another revolutionary situation, all the while the amount of different progressive causes has only grown.
This is my case for a socialism without adjectives
. The origin of its name being "anarchism without adjectives", an anarchist tactic of unity between communist, collectivist, mutualist and individualist anarchists formulated by synthesis anarchists such as Fernando Tarrida del Mármol, Ricardo Mella and Volin. This is a socialist kind of socialism. It is nothing new. It is just socialism or to be more precise a socialist tactic. All these causes, these non-socialist progressive movements, are all either from socialism itself, or socialism accommodates each of them better by itself than these causes do by themselves.
Now for the questions. Before continuing, make sure you have read the entire post.
What can and should be done about this situation?
How can this be handled in a way that benefits socialism?
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Is it sadistic or wrong to genuinely want rightards to fucking suffer?
I despise rightoids, like, the thought that there actually people as well and not just human-sized rodents makes me physically ill, it's difficult for me to decide what I hate about rightoids the most, whether it's the fact that they're stupid fucking animals who know even less about the world than liberals, or whether it's the fact that they're monstrous pieces of shit with nothing redeemable inside them. It's difficult to comprehend rightards as even being worthy of redemption, like, take the average Nazi officer or the average US general; why should such people be given any leeway ever? Were I Joseph Stalin I would order that every SS motherfucker in detainment gets fucking flayed alive.
Know what, I know why I hate rightoids. It's because they're specifically evil, but also very, very stupid. Like, look at these people, they're literally just savage fucking animals. If you see a rightard that isn't an utter coward, notice how they're usually just mindless apes. Neanderthals. Fucking animals. At least liberals want to build something, even the most psychotic communist still wants a better world; the goals of rightoids however is to build NOTHING, these faggots only have destruction as a goal. Whether the QAnon retards in America who effectively want to destroy a government to save capitalism even though the government only exists to do this; or whether it's the Nazoid fags of the Reich who accomplished nothing beyond turning Europe into ruins, the right wing literally has no goal but the destruction of societies and human lives, at best they only exist to keep parasites in power.
How could any sane society not just euthanize rightoids as a matter of principle?
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/leftybritpol/ - uwu pwease message me washford Edition
The kids want fucking food mate. Is that too much to ask when we all got half price nandos?
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Under his leadership, our society reached the closest to Communism than ever before, yet you hate him. Why?
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Pipeline to the left
Why isn't the left able to create a liberal/socdem to communist pipeline, the same way there was a libertarian/conservative to fash pipeline?
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Chile's 2020 national referendum
The next interesting thing to happen will be tomorrows referendum in Chile on replacing the old Pinochet constitution of 1980, with the vast majority of Chileans (around 70%) favoring replacing it with a new constitution.
What do you guys make of this? Will the right wing and the US accept the results if it means the end to their precious libertarian experiment?
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egalitarianism and Marxism
Marxism doesn't actually seem very egalitarian, which seems to be its biggest strength. Proles are the largest, most essential class to any economy, so they should rise up and crush the parasites above and below them who immiserate them. There don't seem to be any appeals to fairness within Marx, so why are most Western Marxists egalitarians? Why do they make appeals to fairness instead of greatness or violence?
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This is really good in parts and really navel-gazey and obtuse in other parts. I'm having a hard time muscling my way through. I also expected a lot more meditations on culture and a lot less outright Marxist economic theory. What are others' thoughts on this shit?
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Our goal is simple, to put the government of Bolivia under President Arce in contact with Glasgow University professor, Dr. Paul Cockshott PhD.
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What are the Revcoms doing right, and can we do it better?
This is a thread for anons involved in ML orgs (whether it be CPUSA, PSL, FRSO, PCUSA, APL, NABPP, or any other org under the sun) to confront the pressing issue of the Revcoms and their meteoric rise in prominence.
First, I'm going to state the obvious: RevCom US is little more than a cult built around Avakian that is so far removed from international Marxist-Leninism that even its former MLM sister parties have denounced it. Furthermore, I don't want this thread to be seen as any sort of justification for the Revcoms, as I believe them to be too innately corrupt and cultish to be saved once Avakian kicks the bucket. However, with that said, there's a burning question we in other orgs need to ask ourselves: why are they doing so much better than us? Every weekend seems to be giving them larger and larger crowds, more and more publicity, and even further
public recognition as THE communist party. It's gotten to the point where crackpot theorists like Alex Jones genuinely fear them overthrowing the government, as well as interviews (ie exposure) by people like Tucker Carlson. They're occupying city streets across the country, overwhelming campuses, and are getting a lot of media buzz. Clearly, as deluded as they may be as theoreticians, they are most certainly excelling at organizing, judging by the sheer momentum of their org. As much as I hate to say it, unless we start learning from Revcom organizing and start reinvigorating our respective orgs, we risk letting the Revcoms take up the position of the paramount ML org in the US, something which I think we'd all like to avoid. Here are some successful components of the Revcoms which I think we could learn to implement:
1. A strong social media presence. Unfortunately, our orgs lack a very strong social media presence, with most accounts staying dormant for up to weeks on end. Meanwhile, the Revcoms see an absolute storm of social media posts and content. For example, while the PSL Instagram last uploaded a week ago, the RevCom Instagram regularly uploads upwards of five posts a day, always concerning upcoming events or news events. As far as I know, despite the CPUSA having by far the most legitimacy (for now), they don't even have an Instagram account. I'm not saying that we need to solely focus on social media, but we should have regularly posting, consistently-engaging platforms to expand the party. We can't hope that your average zoomer is going to randomly stumble upon People's World or Fight Back!, there needs to be some much broader outreach on platforms that they already use. It doesn't even require much, just get one of the org's younger members to set up a social media page and just post regularly on issues that matter. If we don't, we risk losing the internet to Avakian.
2. We need to focus more on current, important issues rather than keep descending into sectarian nonsense. It's hard to remember when we spend so much time in leftist circles, but here's the truth: practically nobody gives a shit about "theoretical purity" or which party backed who almost a century ago. They care about real answers to the issues they're facing, like dealing with Trump or opposing ICE. Avakian has tapped into this, and has taken advantage of this vacuum. He's sparked multiple single-issue campaigns, such as Refuse Fascism, to infiltrate broader social movements and give his party sway over the broader concerned populace. So far, this has worked marvelously well, with the Revcoms leading some surprisingly massive protests against Trump and police brutality these last four years, and certainly pulling more protesters than, say, the CPUSA has pulled in a couple decades. I'm not saying that theory and guiding principles aren't important, they most certainly are, but you aren't going to win over any non-Marxists by just talking about how great your theory is. If we want to start putting a mass movement together, we need to start putting the sectarian slapfights and Marx bookclubs aside and instead propose fighting real, current struggles.
3. We need some real, inspiring leadership. I'm going to ask all of you something, and while I'm sure some of you will know, I bet most of you won't: who's currently the chairman of the CPUSA? How about the FRSO? Maybe you can name the head of the APL . . . I thought not. You see, communist parties excel when they have solid, charismatic leaders, people who can inspire workers and have name recognition. People like Browder, Foster, Hall, Cannon, Marcy, Davis, and plenty of others had strong leadership that lead to people rallying behind them, and in many cases founded their own "isms". What have we had since? Bachtell, Webb, and a few other leaders who can't even get their own Wikipedia pages? Meanwhile, you have Bob Avakian, a man who, despite all his general awfulness, you most certainly have heard of before. You hear Revcoms, you think Avakian and "Avakianism". He gives speeches, he writes short blurbs to be posted on social media, he plasters his quotes on everything, he speaks to large crowds. Clearly, this has created a strong bond between him and his party, and has given them a firm sense of direction without getting bogged down in infighting. Now, I'm well aware that the Revcoms take this WAY too far, to the point where they can't stop jamming Avakian's name into everything and they basically have a cult of personality. This is going to be a massive problem once he croaks, and I wouldn't be surprised if the whole party falls apart once he does. However, there still must be some middle ground between having a cult of personality and having your leaders be literally-whos within their own parties. Personally, I think that La Riva and Rashid have found this balance, and I advise other parties to follow suit.
4. We need to take to the streets. We can't just keep holing away in dusty bookclubs and farmer's-market booths, we needs to show the discontented masses that we are a revolutionary party dedicated to obliterating the miserable status quo. Again, the Revcoms have excelled at this, and you can easily find on YouTube the sheer scope of the protests they've organized, alongside their punchy slogans and publicity-drawing stunts. Meanwhile, you'll be lucky to see any other org get a few people together to hand out flyers, and even that is worryingly rare. If we want to win over the masses, we need to show that we are willing to join them in the streets and fight for their issues.
These are the points I've identified so far, and I encourage other org members / potential org members to chime in about what we can do to fix this mess. Because unless we do something soon, there is a VERY good chance that the Revcoms will eclipse the CPUSA as the "legitimate party", and I wouldn't be surprised if they've already reached higher membership at this point. And if the Revcoms do become the main org of the American left, then we will be letting an insane cult organize the masses instead of a genuine, stable vanguard. Just imagine how porky would love it, if the workers had Bob fucking Avakian as their leader. Needless to say, it would be catastrophic for American socialism. This can only be averted by a concerted modernization effort by our respective orgs, to reach out to the people and build a genuine connection. If we don't, we'll be surrendering the vision of Marx and Lenin to the coked-up ramblings of a media-savvy hippie. I, for one, won't let that happen.
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If you had the power to run the world as you see fit how would you run it? What would be your ideal world?
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Qanon, Hofstadter, and Evangelicals
I just finished reading “Anti Intellectualism in American Life” by American 20th century historian Richard Hofstadter. It’s an interesting book and a good follow up to ‘The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories’ Book by Dutch Psychologist Jan-Willem van Prooijen. Hofstadter is a liberal, not a radical, and he does seem to engage of a bit of muh both-sides-ism. although he was briefly a communist in the 30s, he basically comes from the point of view of a center-left technocrat with a hint of doomerism. Nevertheless it’s clear that his main target is the far right. The book was written in the 1960s and mainly seems to be inspired by his dislike of McCarthyism in the 1950s.
In the book he jerks off about intellectualism. strong “in this moment, I am euphoric” vibes – although in his case it’s somewhat justified because he was actually an academic historian of some note.
Hofstadter essentially blames anti-intellectualism in America on five things: evangelical protestant christianity, egalitarianism and Jacksonian democracy, business culture, a poor education system, and the influence of the American Pragmatist philosophers, especially Dewey.
He explains that the reason pragmatic, business, knowledge was valued over book learning was because unlike Europe which was already developed and filled with artifacts from ages past, America was mostly undeveloped and so there was a premium on knowledge that helped build up the new nation, and the aristocracy that normally sponsored art or pure intellect was missing in America. There was also the liberal revolutionary idea that the knowledge of the past from Europe was not needed because the american revolution left all of that aristocratic effeminate clap-trap behind.
The education system was also re-geared from teaching classical subjects or being college prep to the social life of the student and vocational skills, a lot of this was based on the strange 19th century psychology-pseudoscience and experimental theories in education. Chronic underfunding and undervaluing of education also didn’t help.
In the sections of McCarthyism he quotes multiple McCarthyists, fundamentalists, religious nuts, and klansmen, and the quotations are both insane and eerily similar to modern day right wingers. You could transpose them almost word for word onto Qoomers, chuds, right wingers/pol today, with little to no modification.
The most interesting part of the book is where he talks about evangelical christianity in America, and how it began as a sort of folkish christianity against the ‘liturgical’ traditional protestantism. Essentially the evangelicals were ultra protestants who thought the reformation didn’t go far enough in decentralizing authority. So they had lay-preachers, a carpenter during the week would become a preacher on Sunday, every person would be free to interpret the bible themselves, without reference to scholarship on the subject. More based on emotion and feelings, than study, reason or intellect, especially since many were illiterate. Essentially feels over reals christianity, even to the point of screaming and going into hysterics, “speaking in tongues” or whatever.
If you read nothing else from this book, read chapter 5, “Revolt against the modern world”. It explains how much of right wing politics evolved from the religious backlash of evangelical and fundamentalist christianity against the erosion of America’s traditional Anglo-Protestant, small village culture beginning in the early 20th century, simply by the introduction of modernity, mass communications, education etc.
Right wing thought is a result of the “secularized fundamentalist mind”. Essentially a secularized version of extreme protestant christianity.
>The fundamentalist mind will have nothing to do with all this: it is essentially Manichean; it looks upon the world as an arena for conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, and accordingly it scorns compromises (who would compromise with Satan?) and can tolerate no ambiguities. It cannot find serious importance in what it believes to be trifling degrees of difference: liberals support measures that are for all practical purposes socialistic, and socialism is nothing more than a variant of Communism, which, as everyone knows, is atheism. Whereas the distinctively political intelligence begins with the political world, and attempts to make an assessment of how far a given set of goals can in fact be realized in the face of a certain balance of opposing forces, the secularized fundamentalist mind begins with a definition of that which is absolutely right, and looks upon politics as an arena in which that right must be realized. It cannot think, for example, of the cold war as a question of mundane politics—that is to say, as a conflict between two systems of power that are compelled in some degree to accommodate each other in order to survive—but only as a clash of faiths. It is not concerned with the realities of power—with the fact, say, that the Soviets have the bomb—but with the spiritual battle with the Communist, preferably the domestic Communist, whose reality does not consist in what he does, or even in the fact that he exists, but who represents, rather, an archetypal opponent in a spiritual wrestling match. He has not one whit less reality because the fundamentalists have never met him in the flesh. The issues of the actual world are hence transformed into a spiritual Armageddon, an ultimate reality, in which any reference today-by-day actualities has the character of an allegorical illustration, and not of the empirical evidence that ordinary men offer for ordinary conclusions. Thus, when a right-wing leader accuses Dwight D. Eisenhower of being a conscious, dedicated agent of the international Communist conspiracy, he may seem demented, by the usual criteria of the political intelligence; but, more accurately, I believe, he is quite literally out of this world. What he is trying to account for is not Eisenhower’s actual political behavior, as men commonly understand it, but Eisenhower’s place, as a kind of fallen angel, in the realm of ultimate moral and spiritual values, which to him has infinitely greater reality than mundane politics. Seen in this light, the accusation is no longer quite so willfully perverse, but appears in its proper character as a kind of sublime nonsense. Credo quia absurdum est [I believe it because it is absurd].
Socialism/Communism/Atheism/Liberalism plays the same role in their political thought as “the devil” plays in their religious thought. They have to constantly do spiritual warfare, and they treat politics as the same. They are primed think the world is this cosmic conflict, all the time.
You can see this same influence on Qanon. Qanon, for all intents and purposes is a secularized version of, or parody (almost) of evangelical christianity. While christians have the rapture and apocalypse, Qanon has “the storm”, a sort of secular judgement day. Christians have the kingdom of heaven, Qoomers have “the great awakening”. I suppose that makes Trump Jesus in that analogy.
Quote from article on qoomers:
>“There are people that are on the streets,” he[Trump] says. “There are people that are controlling the streets.” The “invisible enemy” he’s spoken of before, the one QAnon calls Hillary Clinton or James Comey or John Podesta. But this foe has no name. He speaks of an airplane “in a certain city,” one full of “thugs” in “dark uniforms.” Indistinguishable; like a virus. This happened, he says, then: “They’re on a plane.” Present tense. “This is all happening.” Right now. It has the dream logic of a nursery rhyme. On the streets, in the air, dark shadows everywhere. What Trump is describing is no more nor less exotic than the popular evangelical concept of spiritual war, the conflict thought to be raging always, around us and within, between believers and “principalities” and “powers,” according to Ephesians, or demons, in the contemporary vernacular. QAnon has translated the concept from King James into Trumpish, but Trump is no more reading Q “drops” than undead John-John, JFK Jr., is writing
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capitalism prevents technology
What technology are we missing that is not being made because capitalism cant or wont make it. Picture the current world but it is run by a socialist mode of production. How would existing tech be different and what new technology would exist.
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I wish humanity was united. We have so many differences and yet we can't settle on something. So I propose a one world government under a federation. One flag for humanity. We should seek to survive as a species, not by nationality or ethnicity. You know it's kind of funny. Humans have existed for so long and waged many wars towards each other. I'm surprised we haven't been declared extinct earlier but I mean, who's there to record that? I'm not saying I hate humanity but I know that we can do better. We can't let nationalism and reactionary ideas hold us back. The former along with class divisions resulted in most of the wars in history. Religions and spirituality isn't bad but people should have a choice between that and secularism. But yeah, a world federal government that caters to the people, without any corruption, and is held accountable should be the goal so that when we increase our influence throughout the cosmos, we're doing so under one flag. In order to survive as a species, we need to develop revolutionary ideas that fits the modern and progressive world. It's 2020, getting stoned because you have committed a sin is completely backwards. It's okay to admire the empires and dynasties of the past but we need to understand that they're long gone. But deep down, we're all human, a species that have overcome many disasters. I'm concerned about the affects of climate change but I know we can get through this. We can get through this pandemic. But only if we come to our differences, respect each other, and work together as a unified species. Language is the one barrier between us so I propose that we should only recognize the first ten most spoken ones.
Freedom, Justice, and Peace.
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/BOLIVIA/ Election Day Thread
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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General
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How do we save Gamers?
As everybody knows, capital G Gamers are Nazis, radicalized by a perceived invasion of idpol and whamen into the allegedly traditionally male sphere of video gaming. How do we, as intellectually muscular and very convincing socialists reach these people? I think the first step would be to teach them the difference between bourgeois idpol and leftist ideology. Alternatively, we could tell them to have sex and go from there. I suppose we should tackle the main sources of male alienation as well.
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general
A general thread for all China related discussion
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Hybridism and the electoral path.
any leftypol users read this book that came out earlier this year i think it has some interesting ideas on how to push leftist ideas through the current political apparatus.
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The oppression of black people is not based on discrimination but rather ontological terror. Black people are not subjects. They are non-subjects, deprived of the category of humanity which is built on violence against the black non-subject. The mental health and coherence of the world and all non-blacks is maintained by violence against black people. The black non-subject cannot be explained by Marxism, and their oppression is not comparable to the proletariat, the queer person or the non-black woman. The entire world constructs itself through parasitic ontological violence against black non-subjects, who may be used by workers, immigrants or women but have no role in civil society other than violent exclusion for the purpose of constructing civil society. Black non-subjects exist in the category of social death, and this cannot be seen by the doctrine of Marxism.
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The beginnings of our new leftypol project
Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.
Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).
I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.
So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.
If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.
Thanks for your attention!
EDIT: I've now got admin permissions on leftypedia, so I can create pages and approve edits directly. If you want to use the site I recommend you create a user account, which I can then approve once you make a productive edit (to distinguish from spambots), then you won't have to wait for approval anymore and can create articles yourself. Or, just ask me and I can create an article for you if you're desperate to make one as your first edit. Thanks guys, I hope we can make this project cool together!
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: Satanic Nazis
This is all the evidence we put together in the last thread, in order, for any newcomers. I'm gonna add in a few bits for context as well and lines of enquiry without sources that we might want to pursue
>leader of neo nazi group "the base" a fed
>various themes involving the alt right, their connections to the intelligence services, and the esoteric hitlerist connections in both, alongside pedophile connections
> a video describing the Order of the Nine Angles
>videos of 09A ritual stuff
>AWD Pedo Cop with probable links to esoteric groups
>National Socialist Underground
>Regarding the nine murders of migrants with the same weapon, the investigations focused almost exclusively on the victims and their alleged and actually non-existent ties to organized crime, the “Turkish mafia”, drug dealing, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and so on. In the murder cases where police investigated the possibility that these acts might have been committed for right-wing motives, they did so in a very superficial manner and leads in this direction were hardly ever followed up.
>The same pattern can be seen in the investigations of the bomb attacks. In all three cases, which the police did not regard as connected, the police looked for suspects close to the victims or in connection with organized crime, and neo-Nazi suspects were never seriously considered. In the case of the bomb attack in Keupstraße in Cologne, the police denied the terrorist character of the attack and yet again the bombing was attributed to organized crime. This denial contradicted internal analysis of the secret service and the police considering a racist motive.
>Most of the 15 robberies were believed to be connected as the offenders were always two young men fleeing the crime scene on bikes. But no connection was ever made between the robberies and the murders and/or bombings, despite the fact that many witnesses had seen two young men with bikes close to the scene of the respective crimes.
>Marx Dutroux connection
>One of the leaders of the Belgian pedophile ring was Benoit de Bonvoisin  , who was associated with several secret services. [13²] According to various sources, he held a high position at Gladio, these statements are corroborated by the fact that during a house search, which he carried out in 1990, a draft for a strategy of tension was found. This strategy paper included (supposedly random) attacks on supermarkets.
>09A causes a split in atomwaffen
>Nazis being covered up for by german intelligence again
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Neo-Cameralism and Voluntary-Communes
What is leftypol's thoughs on those ideologies? As you know we live in democracy every group tries to force their values to society but are we really need that?It's like mine values are true ones so all of society should be forced to them or i would be angryy !!11!shit;really why can't we have seperate communities for everybody.
Are you green-vegan?go to place where is nearly full of tress.are you an white-fascist?go and live in ethno-commune.dou you not like lgbt?go and live lgbt-free place.are you support mutualism instead communism?then go and live in mutualist place.It's simple.Why are we fighting each other on things like lgbt is degenaracy and should be removed or we all humans should live together even if it's forced ?
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И мы опять здесь.
Тред для русскоязычных пользователей Лефтипола.
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Leftypol twitter performance
As you may know (or you will now), we have an official twitter account, used to try and increase the notoriety of our community and promote projects of members and ideological allies.
I have done the first round of rudimentary analysis on the twitter performance of the leftypol twitter and collected the findings in the following document. This may be usefull for members who run their own twitter accounts for their organizations. See pdf related.
The report can also be found in the following gulag thread.
Note on methodology:
Tweets that served as promotion for others have no been included in the top/bottom 10/9 of tweets because of their lack of appeal. We are optimising for a combination of retweets, likes (which serve as pseudo-retweets) and profile clickthrough rates. Profile clickthrough rates are for now the best metric twitter provides that is close to subscriber gains. We optimise the twitter to try and reach as broad a following base as possible.
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Αν όλοι είναι αντιφα μήπως κανένας δεν είναι αντιφά ? εντισιον
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The state of Capitalism today, and how it got this bad.
This is a BBC documentary called The Century of the self.It is about individual concumerism.
In my humble opinion it is the cause of all today problems and the future ones to come.
can we talk about it, what do you guys and gals think.
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/EUROpol/ - Europe Politics general
Can we get get a europe general?
I'm kinda curious what's going on in the countries of my fellow europeans, but I feel like having a general for each seperate country, with each speaking their own language segregates us further fellow euro brothers and sisters.
So dump news, banter, events, feels, and so on and so on
Let's create a beter general than /USApol/
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/Nord/ - Nordic General
The previous Nordic thread reached bump limit, so let's continue here.
Let's discuss in English, so we can all understand each other (I don't want this to become a circle jerk for Swedes only).
Previous thread >>290791
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Marxists, when are you going to adopt idealism? You are losing the game against fascist LARPers.
Aleskander Dugin is a very dishonest man. Just take a look at his claim about a thousands pages manuscript that claims to change the world if it were not stolen by the Israel government.. Why would he just create that statement without a shred of evidence? It's hope for hateful people dressed in ambiguity and curiosity.
Face it, philosophy and mysticism are inseparable. Taking 'Enlightenment' values and amputating the mystical/spiritual side of philosophy from its development both (1) prevents us from really appreciating the origin and development of philosophy and (2) is just historically and intellectually dishonest. Which is why the West is incredibly Nihilistic. Nihilism means 'nothingness', and humans thrive on ideas. If people do not have values or tradition then they will adopt whatever's nearest. This is why the youth are starting to adopt radical fringe ideologies as a way to compensate for their lack of direction in life. The one major flaw these cringe nazi warlocks have is the notion that biological features dictate everything. The far right is very anti-intellectual and don't believe much in the Logos.
When we are talking about the mind, it's a particular understanding of what reality is. It's this habit that we have that we don't or are not aware of anymore: it's a very humanistic habit. It's the habit of always projecting outside of ourselves. If you are not able to project outside of yourself, you are an incomplete human being i.e. mindless. If you are mindless, you are only driven by passions because you are only concerned with getting ahead in life for yourself.
This is why historically ancient cultures and modern day ones could practice all kinds of things that we object to. If you can project outside of yourself, you create this concept of empathy. You understand that what I do can hurt someone else, and therefore it can hurt me. A mind that doesn't understand how to project outside of itself tends not to understand that concept of hurt outside the self.
And this is part of the culture war people keep talking about nowadays. Ideas create humanity, and when Bruno Snell says, the mind, is only available to the Greeks i.e. the greeks discovered it.. not the egyptians, not indians, not the chinese, is that none of these ancient cultures were able to project the mind outside their own particular world. For the chinese, there was no world outside of china. For the indians, it was forbidden to cross the oceans - its a sin. For the ancient mesopotamians and egyptians, these were extremely inward-looking cultures.
The conception of a self, of a mind, to be able to project yourself outwards, was all possible due to literature, and the creation of new pronouns and words in Homeric Greek
(i.e. in the creations of epic and lyric poetry, and in the drama, from Homer to Aristophanes to Plato, not orthopraxy).
Hence memetics. Just as Oscar Wilde pointed out "It is through art, and through art only, that we can realise our perfection."
A problem with consciousness is a problem with language. There are no paradoxes in nature.
Marxists, if you truly care for the people then you must adopt Plato's notions of virtue and Christian morality. This biggest mistake is to mistake the words for the things in themselves, as William Blake puts out the dangers of dogmatism:
“The ancient Poets animated all sensible objects with Gods or Geniuses, calling them by the names and adorning them with the properties of woods, rivers, mountains, lakes, cities, nations, and whatever their enlarged & numerous senses could perceive.
And particularly they studied the genius of each city & country, placing it under its mental deity;
Till a system was formed, which some took advantage of & enslav’d the vulgar by attempting to realize or abstract the mental deities from their objects: thus began Priesthood;
Choosing forms of worship from poetic tales.
And at length they pronounc’d that the Gods had order’d such things.
Thus men forgot that All deities reside in the human breast.”
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The Native American question
How do we, as socialists, build stronger time with our Indigenous brothers and sisters? As it stands, such ties seem weak or, in many cases, nonexistent. The American Indian Movement was one of the few radical American movements of the 60s and 70s that didn't call itself socialist, and one of its leaders was even a lolbertarian.
Part of the problem - and this will probably piss some people here off - is that a lot of socialists ignore Indigenous struggles. Maybe if they're kind of woke they put "occupied X territory" in their twitter bios, but most of them don't know anything about the reality of present-day Indigenous people. That doesn't necessarily mean they're bad people or bad socialists, but it's a pretty big blind spot. Even worse are the socialist chauvinists who outright dismiss Indigenous people or act like their demands are "divisive" or "idpol." (I look forward to some of this group popping up in this thread.)
Now, it's true that this is a two-way street, and there are problems with Indigenous people who dismiss socialism as inherently Eurocentric. But if socialists had a better reputation among Indigenous people, I think this would be much less common.
Also, I should make it clear that I'm talking about Indigenous people in the US, and as far as I know a lot of this applies to Canada as well. Obviously, in countries like Bolivia, Indigenous people are already the strongest supporters of socialism.
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/arg/ - Anti-Revisionism General
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How much longer can porky keep using monetary policy to save themselves from economic crisis.
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Aus/leftypol/ - He's at it again edition
Making because i think Aus/leftypol/ got slid off the board during the day of the cope.
Tony Abbot proposes "floating prison islands" to be constructed on ocean platforms and "prison ships" to be built to "house migrants" in the UK
he's basically going to import the horrific and inhumane system that he implemented and used to basically kill several thousand people (Who literally did nothing wrong either under /int/ or aussie law) to continental Europe.
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Some people on this board have their brains completely rotted by liberalism. Talking of
as a foil to communism as there is even such thing. You out yourself as completely unable to understand basic shit, if you put yourself in opposition to particular constructs of bourgeoise ideology and not against the false consiousness itself.
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Why No One Cares About ROP
This shit is something very important in marxism/anti-capitalism(it'heart) but what we see in most of anti-capitalist movements are like 'REEE Rich man baddd explotationn' or 'we should share our stuff <3' which is not just idiotic but also can't do anything on your avarage-joe.I don't claim that porkies are not bad but what i see on most of anti-capitalist circles are so simpimistic and cliche,which is avarage-person makes memes about while ROP is something that very real and screams as 'danger is coming' because of there is authoritarianism an war at the end
Is there any anons who can answer the cause of that problem?If we had to talk about that before we would already live in socialism!
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Daily reminder: Secularism is a leftist value.
All true leftists must be more militant toward religion than New Atheists. If Sam Harris is to the left of you on secularism, we've got a problem.
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What are some good online leftist communities?
In particular, I would like to find a good multi-tendency community, as I don't want to be immersed in a sectarian circlejerk. No subr*ddits, as they suffer from the r*ddit hivemind
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The financial reset is on the horizon (may be tru may not)
is lefty pol for this or no.
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How do I choose my beliefs? I feel like ive been pushed and pulled in every direction these last few years and dont even know what to believe anymore. I try to keep an open mind by browsing both here and /pol/ but it ends up muddying the waters more than helping.
How did you all choose your belief system?
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How do we feel about George Orwell's 1984, folks?
Reminder that Orwell himself said that "1984 was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism" and of course "Lev Bronstein" is Leon Trotsky
How do we feel, folks?
Watching this shite rn, the 1984 Thatcherite film
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Contrapoints btfo leftypol and the infantile left
Do you have any arguments against this?
Anchored: Keep eceleb shit in the Internet general
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Do MLs (or Marxists in general) have any critique of anarchism that doesn’t boil down to
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OC Thread 7.0
New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.
Archived Threads :
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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Lefty Org General - /log/ - Bunch of Commies Edition
A Thread Dedicated To Leftist Organizations, Primarily in America
>Communist Party, USA
<Marxism-Leninism, Bill of Rights Socialism
>Freedom Road Socialist Organization
<Marxism-Leninism, Maoist Oriented
>New Afrikan Black Panther Party
>Party for Socialism and Liberation
>Socialist Equality Party
>Industrial Workers of The World
<Radical Trade Unionism, Anarcho-Syndicalism
>Democratic Socialists of America
<Social Democracy, "Big Tent" Socialism, Rosa Killers.
>Socialist Rifle Association
<Big Tent Socialism
>American Party of Labor
<People's World: https://www.peoplesworld.org/
<World Socialist Website:
<Solidaridad (Spanish-Language News):
(Gee Wobblies, why'd your mom give you TWO papers?!)
<The Thorn (Local news):
<Socialist Alternative Newspaper
<The Red Phoenix
The last thread went well, figured I'd make another. The purpose of this thread is to put unaffiliated socialists in touch with national organizations. If I missed any, I apologize.
For our international Comrades, I heartily recommend checking out the IMCWP to get statements from communist parties around the globe.
Feel free to pitch your org, explain what you're up to, and maybe connect with local anons.
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Is the average human just a stupid fucking monkey?
Okay, harsh title, I know, but I'm trying to figure out how the bourgeoisie has so perfectly manipulated the proletariat like a damn fucking fiddle, especially in Eastern Europe where the last time they experienced actual civilization was Communism, and yet porky has turned their brains to fuckin mud and they'll rant and rave about how awful and wicked cummies were for industrializing their country and giving them the universal freedom of access to their needs but hey now the good old Western Europeans gave them their faggot freedom of speech and their hideous national flag so they'll gladly scrub shit off German or French toilets, yup!
Honestly watching people speak and write about communists and communism makes me despise the human race, makes me lose all empathy for how utterly brainwashed and class cucked so many people are; these fuckers have the nerve to tell anyone in Eastern Europe that they are insane if they remember the USSR fondly and honestly every time I see this I imagine the speaker is some sickening upper middle class redditfag who deserves to be homeless
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/QTDDTOT/ – Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
Last thread: >>906273
Question: What prevents price from having a 100% correlation with labor input?
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Poland’s president has coronavirus, apologizes to contacts
Polish President Andrzej Duda says he feels well despite testing positive for the coronavirus, and he apologized Saturday to everyone who must quarantine because they had contact with him.
Golden Dawn deputy leader evades arrest after jail sentence
Sources were quoted as saying Pappas had not been seen since 1 October when he appeared at a local police station, six days before an Athens court issued a landmark verdict that Golden Dawn was a criminal organisation masquerading as a political party.
Thai protesters’ deadline passes, but PM says he won’t quit
Thailand’s government and the country’s pro-democracy movement appeared no closer to resolving their differences Saturday, as the protesters’ deadline for Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha to step down came and went with no new action from either side, and no backing down.
Brazil Rejects New Political Attack Against Ex-President Lula
Brazilian Workers' Party (PT) President Gleisi Hoffman Friday rejected a new political attack over Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva after a lawsuit filed against the former president for alleged acts of corruption.
'Historic Opportunity': Chile Holds Vote To Replace Dictatorship-Era Constitution
After a wave of mass protests, and amid a pandemic, the people of Chile go to the polls Sunday for a historic referendum over whether the country should scrap its dictatorship-era constitution and write a new one.
SDF Commander reports massive war preparations against Ain Issa
For days, Turkey has again been extending its attacks on the town of Ain Issa in northern Syria. These latest provocations show the rapid war preparations of the occupying forces against the autonomous regions.
Mounting evidence of systemic Australian war crimes in Afghanistan
Revelations of atrocities committed by Australian units in Afghanistan are escalating, in the lead-up to the release of a sanitised official inquiry report into the war crimes, which have been covered-up for many years.
Chand Led CPN Announces Anti Government Protests Beginning October 31
The outlawed Communist Party of Nepal led by Netra Bikram Chand alias Biplav has made public its protest programs against the government.
Croatia denies migrant border attacks after new reports of brutal pushbacks
Croatia has dismissed allegations of violence by its border patrol after new reports emerged this week of border police allegedly beating, robbing and sexually abusing migrants.
Egyptians set to vote for parliament 'with no real authority'
Voting for Egypt's lower house of parliament began on Saturday, with supporters of President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi projected to win a majority amid a relentless crackdown on the opposition.
‘Ignition of new war:’ Sudan political parties reject Israel deal
A statement from Sudan’s Popular Congress Party, the second most prominent component of the Forces of Freedom and Change (FFC) political coalition, said Sudanese people are not obligated to accept the normalisation deal.
Anti-lockdown protesters smash police cars in Naples after new Covid-19 restrictions announced (VIDEOS)
Chanting “Freedom!” the angry crowds marched through the city streets on Friday night, with some hurling bottles, smoke bombs and other projectiles at the officers. Others attempted to erect barricades using garbage containers and set some of them on fire. Police deployed tear gas as they tried to disperse the rioters.
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Yes there will be a Civil War 2
A response to this article
Mostly want to pickup on two excerpts that I think get to the heart of the matter, as the analysis of the civil war is sufficiently materialist(if unoriginal and standard by this point), while the focus on the current situation lacks the proper vision, caught up in idealism of the contemporary aesthetic(aka capitalist realism).
>But in an unprecedented display of bipartisanship, both the liberal and conservative cases for Civil War Part II rest on the same false assumption: that the Civil War was caused by the same type of polarization in America today.
We can all agree here that the civil war was caused by irreconcilable class interests, not ideals of polarization. Yet where I diverge from this is thinking that these illusory shadows are meaningless and devoid of substance. The polarization around the civil war had its roots in a material conflict, that most at the time were blind to. So today I say that the real world polarization, most embodied by Trump himself, is not simply an aberration but points towards a class conflict that is still mostly unrecognized and unsolved.
When confronted with this, the author retreats into a lazy position of blaming it on "alienation"
>What pundits on both sides have chalked up to the makings of a Second Civil War is, in fact, a result of the immiseration and alienation that Americans have increasingly come to feel in the decades since those Civil War-sized questions were settled.
I would hope anyone who has been paying even a little bit of attention is ready to complicate this. What trump represents is a large portion of america being cut out from the social surplus of empire as it shrinks at an ever increasing rate. Correlated to the fall in the rate of profit. It's this loss of surplus that has cut across the lines of identity which caused such a shock against the neoliberal ruling order.
The extreme case of Incels as men no longer able to materially support a family even when the superstructure is still promising women to men with enough money to raise a family. The reason healthcare has become an issue is due to the shift away from the high wages that made paying for healthcare a nonissue. Every political and social current in play today is downstream from a lower rate of profit, a loss of ability to allocate and manage surplus social product. Hence the dream of making america great again. But it can't be reversed.
While it's true that americans are still largely complacent due to a comfortable enough existence, we continue to live under capitalism. It doesn't matter how much resources or products are in a warehouse, if it becomes unprofitable to sell, they will remain in the warehouse rather than be distributed to those who need it. The usefulness of the dollar at this point is completely in the hands of the federal state. Which is why there is such a fight over the state in the first place. Such political forms of domination and resource allocation are taking the place of money as it loses its ability to function outside of government subsidies. These bailouts for the rich are necessary to continue capitalism. The ruling class fights over the last gasp of economic exploitation.
So despite the physicality of wealth, the ability to actually use it will be dependent on moving away from the capitalist mode of production. If the left organizes in time, this will mean socialism. If the left fails due to immobility, or inaction due to malaise, the ruling forces will enact neofeudalism with minimal resistance.
At no point is any of these simple economic points mentioned. Likely to the ignorant liberals, it will only become inevitable only once its happened. Marxism proper allows you to see and say more.
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le pol face is right again
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(Leftist) think tanks
Let us have a more or less general talk about think tanks. Are there actually far-left think tanks out there? The only one I know is the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation: https://www.rosalux.de/en/
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What is /leftypol/'s opinion on Bitcoin?
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Marxism Leninism is (partially) outdated and here is why
Before I start,it would be advised to not take this post personally as an all out attack against ML ideology. Rather, it's my own personal analysis to how ML, despite being successful in 20th century is not viable for the modern conditions.
The conditions which gave birth to the USSR were drastically different than the conditions we have now, as people are actually more educated and literate than 100 years ago in most parts of the world. That is why Marxism Leninism took the authoritarian path to the building of socialism, because it would actually be impossible with alienated workers who know nothing about socialism or if they are even literate to be expected to participate in any form of democratic process.
With that established, we must now re-affirm that goal of Communism is a Classless society, which by it's own definition is a democratic form of society, and certainly not like what today's People Republic of Korea looks like, with of course, no offense to them, as I understand why they are authoritarian to begin with, because otherwise they would perish because of US imperialism.
And with that all pointed out, my solution to incompatibility of Marxism Leninism in modern time is to replace it with more democratic decentralized style of socialism, which by no means is going to allow bourgeois multi party politics, nor is it going to allow revisions such as "Market Economy" and so forth. What I advocate instead for is Hybrid Democratic system with decentralized planned economy. Here is how it all works.
One of the key aspects that I disagree myself with Marxism Leninism is centralized form of planned economy, as in to contrast to what socialist goal is, it strengthens the role of the state which would inevitably lead to corruption within the vanguard party, and overall alienation from the working class. Solution to this of course is to just have decentralized form of economic planning, as it would give more power to the working class towards their eventual emancipation. Some of you may argue that this would create a profit motive, which is an absurd notion considering how it is well established that the state itself can only be sustained by the capital. Henceforth, wouldn't the centralized bureaucracy be the one who would go to pursuit for profit motive, and not the workers who are class counscious in nature? Let us be real here, means of production must be owned by workers, and the economy must be planned out by the workers in order to abolish the commodity production, wage slavery, etc.
What I agree with Marxism Leninism is revolutionary vanguard, and how the multi party system is what tears down the class counsciousness for the working class. However, hybrid system between vanguard and direct democratic rule is what I wish to create in order for socialism to be implemented more correctly. Working class, for the small and local issues that concerns them, have a right to directly vote on proposed solutions on the issue in question that sorounds their area of workplace. For the large scale issues, it functions exactly like how it does in Marxism Leninism, though party officials are elected directly by the workers themselves in order for the party to be more legitimate. Party officials are then those who elect the said President of the party, who is the leader of socialist state in question too.
Now some of you may ask: "But workers aren't ready yet!" which is partially true to be quite fair. Indeed I forgot to mention that a great deal of education in Marxist economics, philosophy would have to be a thing for this to function, but it should not take too long considering we do not live in an age where 80% of people are illiterate and do not know anything about politics in general. That is why there is also Tutelage period, which is simply put a classic style ML rule with no direct democratic elements whatsoever, in order to educate people before allowing them to participate in elections.
I would like to hear if there is any criticism for these solutions of mine which I think are proper solutions for outdated features of Marxism Leninism.
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Former /pol/ack thread
In light of the recent raids, I'm interested in the perspectives of former /pol/ posters on the situation. I came over from stupidpol (yes, I am retarded) so I still hold some conservative social opinions, but I'm more curious of the effects of being a /pol/ack in the long term and if there are knee-jerk reactions to things that you have to dial back.
Are there any views you still share with /pol/? what made you immigrate here? and what are your thoughts on /pol/'s current state?
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Alt Right/Nazi cringe thread
Post the most cringe worthy real life /pol/smokers you can find.
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Think about it. This dude was born to a single mother, in a poor ass ghetto of a Russian colony. His parents had many kids before, but all of them died. Little Josif was the last one, and the only one who survived. His dad was a drunk who only showed up to beat his ass. His mum fucked the teachers like in Forrest Gump, so little Josif could go to school.
This little bastard went to a Christian school, he studied Russian. He studied the Bible. He was still a street kid from the slums, so he got in to fights. He was a notorious street fighter at a young age. During one fight he was thrown under a horse cart and his hand was damaged for good. For the rest of his life his hand was fucked. No more fighting. When the WW1 started, young communist Josif tried to enlist, but the czarist officers considered him to be unable to fight because of his damaged hand.
He was a top student, but was kicked out of school because he was reading atheist and marxist books, and promoting the cause to his classmates. He was also a great singer and was invited to sing at many weddings and funerals.
Kicked out of school, having no money, mom starving, Russian secret police harrassing him... there was only one thing to do: to join the revolutionary movement. There was the Kadets, the SR's and all kinds of petty bourgie movements. But Josif had studied Marxism, and he had learned about a new revolutionary leader of Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, known then as Nikolai Lenin.
This poor fucker, with no money, nothing to eat, nothing to live for, nothing to die for, knew that this Lenin dude was up to something. It took many many years before young Josif would finally meet this Lenin guy. But during this time young Josif was studying Marx. He organised strikes, he worked at oil company and burned their factory to the gournd when their manager (Rothschild) refused to secure workers safty. He led many demnostrations and many strikes which ended in violence by the Okhrana and other Russian authorities.
This fucker smuggled arms, organized robberies, spent many many years in prison and in Siberia exile. He was tortured, he was beaten, he went through all the tortures a revolutionary can go through. He made it.
You think he was too hard? You think he was too brutal? You should know what he went through before announcim him as a tyrant. He was a true proletarian, and the true leader of our class.
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The webm thread slid off the board and it's all your fault.
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The falling Rate of Profit
Let's just discuss some possible outcomes, if it hits 0.
How would you explain it to a Normie?
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I know some say that post revolution we would want to reducate rightoids but I'm wondering specifically what would that entail like what sort of programs would you want create and what are the outcomes?
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What if you've been brainwashed to hate communism because of video games?
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Is the only difference between the right and the left just the economic system?
Right (Capitalism) and Left (Communism)?
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Native English Speakers!! Help Needed!!
I translated an article by Glushkov on collaborative planning, and I want to mail it to Cockshott to get his review. But first I would like some feedback on my translation so that I can redact it for better readability.
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What exactly is wrong with der lange Marsch durch die Institutionen? (as a strategy)
Did Marx overcomplicated shit? Maybe the left needs Blanquism. a secret society and go full hail hydra?
>inb4 pol shows up to say the left already did this because they think neoliberal radlibs are the ""left""
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Is Ba'athism really socialist?
Was Hussein's Iraq Socialist?
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How do libs deal with the sheer popularity of "Ostalgie"?
Honestly trying to figure out how liberals can continue portraying Communist countries as cartoonish depictions of constant surveillance and disappearances when it's already widespread knowledge that their own societies function in this way and when nostalgia for socialism in post-communist countries is so widespread. Particularly in East Germany, in fact, often held up by NATO cucks as the ultimate example of "totalitarianism".
How do they further deal with the fact that such a phenomenon of widespread nostalgia and longing didn't exist on the same scale for fascism?
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>high school graduates immediately subject themselves to wage slavery in order to rent a 2 room flat with a bunch of strangers and to afford university
Why do westoids do this? Do their parents hate them? Have they been so massively damaged by capitalism that they believe that they are only worth something if they earn their own money even if it means to live in poverty? How do we combat this mentality?
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So, /leftypol/: how do we do it? I have some friends that are """"left""" but just can't see the possibility of revolution or even imagine planned economies. I think some of them have potential, but me saying "read Cockshott LMAO" won't really cut it. Ideas?
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progress, a historical trend.
Why are so many anons giving up on the concept of historical progress ? We are living in a time of reaction, but concluding this will remain eternally so baffles me. Social progress just lags behind technical progress. We now have the computers to plan a socialist economy, without any of the compromises the Soviets were forced to yield. Building the political agency to realize the potential for social progress, nascent in technical ability, requires that you can imagine a better world.
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Socialism in Russia
Now that the West has been thoroughly discredited, is there a chance for a socialist resurgence in Russia? United Russia currently holds 75% of all seats in the Russian Duma.
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Daily reminder that just cause Trump sucks no socialist should ever simp for Biden. Trump is the better choice long term as the horrors of the US are more visible with him, with Biden they can more easily sweep shit under the rug.
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Contain your posts about religion to this thread rather than making a new thread about every religious topic or derailing other threads.
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/brg/ Brasil General
We ded but returning from being ded. Ask questions, discuss or shitpost.
E aí companheiros, como estão no surgimento do evangelistão? Curtindo a frente ampla pelo governo? Curtindo o friozinho que deu no fim de semana?
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Why do so many leftist love this guy so much? He was basically a black natsoc up until like the last few weeks of his life. He even met with Lincoln Rockwell and the ANP because they both believed in racial separatism. Do You guys like him because "Cool looking black dude with guns" and "Fuck whitey!"? Is it just radlib shit?
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What is the leftypol response to this?
So imagine a rightoid sends you these PSAs aimed at Indigenous Australians and tells you this is proof race isn't a social construct and other rightoidspeak like calling these Indigenous Australians subhumans unsuited for modern civilization. What would be your response?
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The only possible path to electoral victory in USA
I was watching this video, which explains how a third party can win the presidency without actually winning the election. All it requires is electing enough representatives in the house, then run a third party that's popular enough to prevent either of the other two candidates from reaching 270 votes, and just taking the post that way. This is the only possible way for the left to gain the presidency. Appeal to the rural states and take it.
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How long we have to wait for full revolution?
The Election is near. I just curious with you folks. We have guns, extremists, spirits, rages, records, surveillances, & basically everything to start full revolution against the Empire. Do we have to hiding our power level or we're too weak? I know this might sound larping, but I just want to know how weak or prepare ourselves for the war to end all wars.
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General
Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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What do you think will happen November 3rd? Im scared
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In light of all the news of white supremacists mass shooting and lynching blacks, I am just making this thread as a reminder that you won't kill nearly as many as our government does. Dr. Robert Gallo invented the AIDS virus in collaboration with the CIA to thin out the very people these white supremacists despise, the CIA also invented crack to affect black voting patterns (see Crack linked to Contras and Oliver North), our government also poisons the water supply of black people, they are behind the street gangs, such as the Bloods and Crips who kill each other over petty reasons and they also push homosexuality on the black community, such as Lil Wayne, who recently came out dissing BLM and quite frankly is nothing more than white supremacy in blackface. You also have all the wars, poverty, disease and famine in Africa by our colonial powers and in America you have private prisons. This is all due to capitalism and plutocratic world governments. They want you divided. The bankers are going to crash and burn this country as it gets engulfed in a race war while Russia dominates the US. It's happening folks.
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subtle propaganda thread? i shall start
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism
Thread dedicato al paese con il popolo più analfabeta e la borghesia più ignorante d'Europa, dove ci sono più partiti comunisti che comunisti stessi. In un modo o nell'altro, cerchiamo di riprenderci il paese e il futuro che Confindustria ci ha rubato insieme ai suoi servi.
Foreign comrades are welcome.
Previous thread: >>19862
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WAGIE CITIES ARE COMING
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Questions about Anarchism
This thread is for people who have questions about anarchism and want certain things to be clarified.
I'll be following this thread and answering your questions, though please only ask one or two questions at a time, or I'll have to type up half a novel every time.
I'll try to answer pretty generally for most tendencies of anarchism, but there are branches of anarchism I don't know a lot about and thus wouldn't feel comfortable answering questions about.
So, ask your questions ITT
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Nigeria #EndSars Protests
No one is not talking about it here. Nigerians are mass protesting against police brutality and corruption across the country, calling for an end of the Special Anti-Robbery Squad (SARS), which has a long record of abuses, corruption, and extrajudicial killings. Right now, police are killing protesters at an airport in Lekki. And a prison break in Benin City where 2,000 prisoners escaped. Nigeria is like the most corrupt country in Africa if not, the world. We could be seeing some class consciousness of these protests.
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Hey leftists, could you elucidate the assumption that a box of candles and a chair must have some hidden thing in common with each other other than the possibility of having the same price? I have yet to hear any rational argument for that assumption. If they exchange for the same price, that is exactly all the need have in common, as demonstrated by the fact that not exchanging for the same price implies that they no longer have any significant or hidden property in common at all, by that theory.
And I should add, for anyone considering the broader implementation of Ch1 Part 1 Sec 1 within Das Kapital, that I do not think Marx intended this "proof" to stand on its own, but likely included it as a trap to confuse his critics, as his private letters to Engels indicate. When Marx published this, surprisingly little consideration had been written on this subject by economists, and I don't think Marx was prepared for the development of thought that would occur before he could publish vol 2. Marx never developed a theory of value, and I suspect his inability to rigorously integrate a theory of value into his dialectic was a major reason he never published vol 2, which I believe he originally intended to completely negate this problem (before he fully realized this wouldn't be possible).
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What did Marx mean by "Abolish the family"?
Did he want kids to be raised by the state or something??
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One of the most common causes of socialist government downfalls are foreign-backed coups. One solution I have thought of to solve this problem would be the creation of a decentralized military. Without a centralized command structure, it may be much harder for foreign powers to hijack it and turn it against the government and its people. Here are a few features I have proposed for such a decentralized military:
-Consists of a collection of militias under the control of local communities rather than the national government
-Militia members are drawn from the local communities they serve.
-Militia members are primarily or exclusively reserve troops that spend most of their time leading civilian lives, only engaging in military activity once every 1-4 weeks for drills.
-Arms are kept in militia members' homes or in local armories.
-Militias are governed democratically by members and the communities they serve.
-Militias can form federations with other militias for mutual protection and coordination of activities.
-Federations are run by delegates elected by constituent militia members and the communities served by said militias.
-Federation membership is completely voluntary, but will be necessary if a community wants protection from militias besides their own.
-Federations can be as big or small as the constituent militias and their communities want.
-The national government cannot force a militia to carry out its will; the militia and its community must consent. This could limit the oppressive capabilities of the state.
Pros of a decentralized military:
-More direct control by the people
-Can't be used by national government to enforce unpopular policies
Cons of a decentralized military:
-Potential for fighting between militias
So what do you think of the idea of a decentralized military? Do you think it could be helpful in preventing coups?
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I was talking with a conservative guy recently and he brought up something about a "cannibal island" in the USSR, can anyone gib non glowy sources on this?
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Yugoslavia had worker owned corporations. As a side effect, unemployment was fucking high because no one would ever get fired. How do we combat this problem?
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How come black nationalism gets criticized more than the IRA, for being nationalist?
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The USA is rioting - /BÜRGERKRIEG/ - V
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How do anarchists genuinely believe that they would've won the Spanish Civil War...
Were it not for the Soviets?
Them and every radlib that isn't exactly an anarchist but just know they hate the heckin bad totalitarian Soviet empire (i.e. Stupidpol types)
Unironically, how have these fuckers just washed their own brains well enough to believe the retarded ass idea that the Soviets cost the anarchists that war? Do they get all their knowledge from George Orwell's diary and anarchist Twitter? How the fuck do these people think the anarchists wouldve countered:
The strength of the Spanish military
The actual productive capacity of the Spanish military (higher than the Republican forces)
The actual ORGANIZATIONAL advantage of the Nationalists (they were primarily the formal military of Spain)
German war planes
Lack of discipline in the Republican military
They think people like the CNT would have faced these threats more effectively without Soviet aid and volunteers? Do they think that if they didnt side with those dastardly Soviets they would have won because then they wouldn't have allied with "the bad guys" and so "the good guys" would win? Do they think the leader of the CNT had Franco at gun point when suddenly a bolshevik commissar shot the CNT dude in a dramatic betrayal like a bloody movie? Do anarchists think that their plan to wage a civil war against their own Republican allies via destroying the popular front would have been a successful strategy had the bolsheviks not stood in the way?
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General
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Pirates and piracy
I've been looking for some left-wing analyses of piracy and pirates in the modern era (1500-1800?). I've seen some anarchists argue that pirates were kinda like proto-anarchists or something like that, so I want to read about them. Any suggestions?
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How did they brainwash the Jewish people into embracing reaction?
From what I've seen throughout history Jews have broadly been at the forefront of radical movements in the countries the diaspora lived in, for instance, almost every communist movement in Europe had a large Jewish component, as well as with the US. But then this cancerous fucking blight metastasized onto the Earth and 80 years later the average Jewish person seems to be a hardcore reactionary cunt that would cheer on the eradication of Palestinians with nuclear armaments. And of course in Israel itself the main debate is whether Arabs should exist in apartheid or be outright exterminated. Like, I seen videos of settlers in Gaza cheering on the murder of children by IDF.
Now I know there are still lots of Jewish people that are communists and more than that that oppose the Israeli state, but even then they same to be drowned out by a tidal wave of nationalistic reactionary cunts; why?
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RDW is a reactionary
Yeah, so, I watched his latest vid, and it became perfectly clear to me that RDW was a Proudhonist at best, non-Marxist market-fetishist at worst.
Hatch for yourself, and have the audacity to tell me that this person is a Marxist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiMvcpRPUNE
One of his (ideological) moves is to equate the Soviet factory, wherein a factory manager (called by Lenin: factory dictator, from DotP) is the same as the CEO or the "board of directors" (i.e. shareholders) in a capitalist company. This is provably false, lol.
Then, another of his "magical steps" takes us to the conclusion that:
>USSR economy = 21st century capitalist economy = B.A.D.
Seriously, dude, why does ANYBODY take this faggot seriously?! His whole Proudhonist shill just amounts to shitting on Actually Existing Socialism (AES) and propagating for "le pseudo-alternative"...
I would like to bring your attention to the following fact: IT WAS THE FUCKING 20TH CENTURY COMMUNISTS WHO CREATED THE LARGEST COOP-SECTORS IN EXISTENCE, MUCH BROADER AND MUCH MORE "EGALITARIAN" THAN RDW'S SHILLING FOR A »COOP UNDER CAPITALISM«.
FUCKING FACT: 20TH CENTURY SOCIALIST PROJECTS CREATED THE MOST DIVERSE AND MOST SUBSTANTIAL COOPS KNOWN TO HUMAN HISTORY!!!
>inb4 RDW/Vaush-tier responses
burn in hell, honestly
p.s. this pseudo-intellectual is selling you L I T E R A L lies!!!!
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The Doctor's Plot
Okay, so what the fuck was that supposed to be? Why did Stalin suddenly have a hateboner for all Jews and was he really planning the fucking Holocaust 2.0 before he died?
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Why is this pervert charlatan given any credibility by booj academics? Everything this creep wrote was borderline incestuous and incel (can argue even incels write better theory), yet he is highly esteemed by other brainlet academicians. Every time I come across this retard, his "concepts" get more repulsive.
>muh penis envy
>muh childs sexual love of mother
>muh every cylindrical natural object is a penis
Aside from that in this excerpt he further proves his retardation by claiming we cant abolish private property because muh aggressive human nature
>cannot enquire into whether the abolition of private property is advantageous and expedient. But I am able to recognize that psychologically it is rounded on an untenable illusion. By abolishing private property one deprives the human love of aggression of one of its instruments, a strong one undoubtedly, but assuredly not the strongest. It in no way alters the individual differences in power and influence which are turned by aggressiveness to its own use, nor does it change the nature of the instinct in any way. This instinct did not arise as the result of property; it reigned almost supreme in primitive times when possessions were still extremely scanty;
Everything else about his unconscious etc he stole from Nietzsche.
Why is this retard relevant?
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Socialism is electricity
Machines can't run without electricity. People can't function without community and safety nets. It is our tax money that keeps society functional, but oftentimes this simple fact becomes perverted with the belief that giving tax money to the people in charge of society is how we take care of ourselves. On the contrary, under capitalism your taxation does not benefit you at all, it benefits the people in charge. What do they do with all the money? They spend it on themselves and on ensuring that supply chains benefit them. This could be compared to rewiring a modem to send all the wifi to your computer so your computer is always faster than everyone else's computers. They take your tax money and use it to divert electricity away from you. Socialism, on the contrary, believes in the value of ensuring that all machines are maintained, functional, and if they are obsolete, their improvement. Thus, socialism is electrification of the whole country.
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Venezuela's Maduro, citing Pope, asks congress to consider same-sex marriage
enezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on Thursday asked the country’s National Assembly to discuss same-sex marriage during its next term beginning in January, citing Pope Francis’ comments this week supporting civil unions for same-sex couples.
UN says Libya sides reach ‘permanent ceasefire’ deal
Libya’s warring sides signed an agreement for “a permanent ceasefire in all areas of Libya”, the UN Libya mission said on Friday, raising hopes the long-running conflict may finally reach a lasting peace.
China’s Xi takes jabs at US in Korean War commemoration
“In today’s world, the pursuit of unilateralism, protectionism and extreme egoism leads nowhere,” Xi told an audience of government and party leaders, veterans and family members of those who served in what China calls the Chinese People’s Volunteers.
Evo Morales to Sue Luis Almagro Before the ICC
Evo Morales asked on Thursday for the resignation of the Secretary-General of the Organization of the American States (OAS) Luis Almagro and said that he would sue him before the International Criminal Court.
Ocalan's lawyers barred again from seeing jailed PKK leader
An application by Rezan Sarica, Raziye Turgut, Serbay Koklu and Ibrahim Bilmez, who had hoped to meet their client today, was rejected by The Bursa Chief Public Prosecutor under a six-month ban on lawyer visits imposed last month.
Ex-FARC Members March Over Selective Killings Against Them
Hundreds of former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) guerrillas marched from the municipality of Mesetas, in Meta Department, to protest against the targeted killing of 234 of their fellow FARC party members since the signing of the Peace Agreement.
Activist challenges Starmer to defend decision to abstain on controversial ‘spy cops’ Bill
The Labour leader also claimed that it was “impossible” to argue that the legislation would allow undercover agents to torture people, adding: “It just doesn’t make any sense at all.”
Poland braces for more protests over abortion ban ruling
The constitutional tribunal found that abortion in cases where “prenatal tests or other medical indications indicate a high probability of severe and irreversible foetal impairment or an incurable life-threatening disease” is a violation of the constitutional right to life.
U.S. joins global anti-abortion pact as Polish women march to protest clampdown
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar took part in a virtual signing ceremony of the Geneva Consensus Declaration. Egypt, Uganda, Brazil, Hungary and Indonesia co-sponsored the pact along with the U.S. Thirty-two nations signed it.
Israel travel ban: Gaza nurses protest loss of permits, layoffs
A group of nurses from the besieged Gaza Strip have staged a protest in a public square, saying an Israeli travel ban has led the Jerusalem hospital they worked at for many years to fire them.
France surpasses 1 million confirmed virus cases amid spike
The national health agency released new figures showing that tests had confirmed at least 1,041,075 cases in France this year, including 42,032 new cases reported in the past 24 hours.
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What do you think capitalism/the world will look like in 100 years?
Here's some assumptions:
1) The world won't end. Climate disasters/war may happen but they won't kill all humanity.
2) Artificial intelligence won't supplant humanity as the ruling thing on this planet. Any AGI that exists will be subservient to human will.
3) We won't have a revolution. "Profit" will still be goal of the ruling class/bourgeoisie.
Just curious what you guys think the world will be like if we continue on current trends. Will we have still have "jobs" as we think of them? Will the falling rate of profit make some type of change inevitable?
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India being anti-China is proof of WW3
Very simple logic here.
- India is a Chinese neighbor
- is also poor
- is also non-european
- is also eurasian
- somehow, still hates China
It makes NO SENSE why India and China aren't allies. There must be some reason why they are not.
That reason is water. The water in the Himalayas is drying, and no amount of anti-US pro-Eurasianism economic policy can change basic water. In an ideal world, India would jump at the chance to be part of the Chinese century, and China would jump at the chance to have a juggernaut like India on its side.
But India can't ally with China because doing so would be existentially impossible. And vice versa.
Thus, these two countries will fight WW3 within the next century.
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The Kobayashi Maru of the second world
What is to be done when it comes to the minor nations? Is there literally no hope of outmaneuvering the political situation to, not even do socialism, but at least ensuring a relatively average life quality in a capitalist center left economy?
I am from Lithuania, and already did some complaining about the exquisitely fucked situation of ours >>1004545
There literally doesn't seem to be a possible outcome in the future that isn't just becoming another Greece, taking out a shit ton of debt, going bankrupt and getting fucked by massive austerity, or just cutting out the middle part and just getting massive austerity. There is literally nothing that I can think of, even if we'd say the government was a totally unified and willing to use any methods, I can't think of anything that would prevent this. Even if we had a national currency and could try some black magic MMT printer shit, wouldn't that just end with hyperinflation eventually?
I look at our situation and I have no doubt that most other second world countries are looking down the barrel of this same gun. So what the fuck is to be done about this situation? Is there any chance for any kind of positive progressive outcome here, or does it all just hinge on the global system? Is there any kind of agency that the minor nations have, or are we just forever left to hope for a less retarded imperial hagemon to suck up too?
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Why does it take so long for you to say that they rule the World?
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What country/city in the world has the most revolutionary potential? Pic not really related but maybe?
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It is now the year 2120, we live in a world where all countries are in the socialist stage and some are already beginning the final transition to communism. How did this happen ? How did we get here ?
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Real life Nazbol(-ism)
Post examples of real life NAZBOL
>Fascist governments advocated resolution of domestic class conflict within a nation in order to secure national solidarity. This would be done through the state mediating relations between the classes (contrary to the views of classical liberal-inspired capitalists). While fascism was opposed to domestic class conflict, it was held that bourgeois-proletarian conflict existed primarily in national conflict between proletarian nations versus bourgeois nations
>Li Dazhao, one of the founders of the Chinese Communist Party, identified China as a whole as a proletarian nation and the white races as the world ruling class. Later Maoist movements, such as the Maoist Internationalist Movement, have also used the term to refer to oppressed nations of the Third World in contrast to bourgeois (First World) nations. In the 1970s, the Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party, USA used the term "dispersed proletarian nation of a new type" to refer exclusively to African-Americans as a nation of mostly wage laborers and industrial workers (with no significant black bourgeoisie or peasantry as in other nations), dispersed across the territory of the United States.
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Do you guys like communist anime girls?
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What do you guys think of pan Germanism?
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How the FUCK did we get all the way here?
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We need to bring back the Red culture. Back in the day all the Reds greeted each other by saying "Rotfront". That was the greeting to say hello to comrades, and that was the greeting to be shouted at the Bourgeois Court when given a death sentence.
In India and "Indo-China" to this day the same greeting is "Lal Salaam" (meaning "Red salute"). This is the battle cry of our guerrilla comrades who go to battle. This is how they greet each other. This is what they say when they are sentenced to death.
So comrades, let's greet each other according to our cultural traditions: "Rotfront!" or "Lal Salaam!"
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Liking Stalin as an anarchist
Is it possible to be an anarchist and still like some past socialist leaders (i.e. stalin)?
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Hinterlands : America's New Landscape on Class and Conflict
Anybody else read this? Thoughts?
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Alunya appreciation thread, post your favourite Alunyas~
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List of countries that fought wars with essentially every great power of their time simultaneously?
Off the top of my head the countries I know of are basically:
The French Revolutionary Army/First French Empire
The German Empire and later the Third Reich in each World War
The Empire of Japan by the end of WWII
The Red Army during the Russian Civil War
That's all I know of, interesting to note each were either in periods of revolution or modernization that this feat was pulled off
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When should Affirmative Action end?
When it began, it was thought that Affirmative Action would only be needed "temporarily" in order to equalize school and economic performance between blacks and whites. That was 60 years ago. Sandra Day O'Connor predicted that AA would not be needed after another 25 years. That was 20 years ago. The explanation of "They just need more time" becomes less and less plausible with each passing decade.
At what point do we seriously consider the competing explanation (that human evolution happened above the neck) and cease further investment in [by then recognized as fruitless and inhumane] oppression narratives? 20 more years? 100? 1000? *
Secondly, what happens if that day comes and blacks have been universally indoctrinated into the belief, as they are today, that all of their failings fall at the doorstep of someone else? Will they buck up and accept the findings of genetic scientists? Will they be traumatized, feeling as though they have been lied to for generations? Will there be riots? Suicides?
Thank you for reading.
* "Just keep waiting for all eternity" is not a reasonable answer, but if you have nothing else to say then I have another question: Should human evolutionary genetics research be banned?
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Any polish people here? What are your thoughts on the leftist party Lewica?
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a thread for shitting on polish parties
shitty bootlicker party that's too busy sucking off PO to actually do anything, unfortunatly it has the only youth org that actually does anything, anti communist retards. Also they jack off to Piłsudzki (but so do most polacks)
the worst "left" party in the country, no actual policies except IDPOL, and their youth org is scared of even being antifascist, anti communist retards
Kwaśniewski, need i say more?
sent the poles into Afghanistan and Iraq, anti communist retards
bougie fags who actually have an economic program that's not 100% neolib shit, but they're too busy parroting IPN nazi propaganda and giving themselves giant paychecks, anti communist retards
RIP Lepper, you were too dangerous for polish politics
the closest thing Poland has to a based party, but they are so fucking obscure that nobody gives a shit about them, also the only party that says the truth about the PPR
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Why is Poland so anti-communist? All Poles I've talked to are reactionary. One was even a neo-nazi with face tattoos lmao.
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What actually are material conditions? I see it thrown around as a critique of anarchism, but I don’t know what it is. So, what the fuck does material conditions mean?
(Not trolling legitimately want to know)
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Play Devils advocate and think of some kind of defense for this.
Please defend capitalism. Capitalism is in no way traditionalism. Democracy says everybody has an innate worth that must be honored, capitalism says those who die with the most toys win. You cannot reconcile these two things, and nobody wants to talk about this, we're still having the party over the fall of communism. But, you know, former areas or the soviet union and you see that what it was, it was a deep freeze for traditional culture. In Kurdisia and Turkmenistan people were basically camel husbandry, whats going on now, there is a Mac Donalds and a Subway. So, I think we're coming to a great crisis of our relation to these fundamental institutions. As it globalizes, it disestablishes unique cultures wherever they are found. It replaces traditional culture with trendy, consuming culture. Communism and capitalism are systems each with a fatal flaw that is set against human nature. At this very moment we should be consuming less, manufacturing less, selling less, transporting less and what's the battle cry? Free trade everywhere! What does free trade mean? It means my right to come to your country and sell the most outlandish junk you've ever seen and you will have no right to turn it away because in the name of free trade, shit is manufactured worldwide.
A hard-core anti-capitalist position wants to eliminate capitalism because it sees it as an irreclaimable evil. But it’s possible that the only thing wrong with capitalism is that it manufactures, distributes and commodifies physical objects. If there was a capitalism that only commodified information or light? Uh, that might be more tolerable.
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Liberalism is Eternal.
The odds are that Trump is going to get his ass kicked in the general elections, this will be a much, much worse development then we previously thought possible. The centerification of everything is starting to begin as teh degenerates you faggots called the "Proleteriate" will be soothed and believe that Biden will provide all of their ales. How can anybody be a communist after this, that all the people that they "redpilled" will go back to the mediocrity and boredom of centrism even as their lives get worse? IT's because there is no equality, there is only power. There is only the will to improve and there is only the desire to crush those who are weaker than you. The black pills are flowing through me already, it's nice and warm. Why don't you embrace the inevitable? North Korea will fall, Cuba will fall, Venezuela will fall, Belerus will fall. Everything that is not liberal, everything that is not marketable, everything with an actual pulse, everything with a fucking soul will die out and become boring, stale, fucking thrown out by the way side by more and more and more and more and more and more of the same crap that we keep buying up again and again and again and again. People have been hallowed out by capitalism. The devil? He is a pussy bitch compared to capital, The demiurge? Even his malign intentions have some degree of the desire for amusement, the most human desire of them all, but everything will become colorless, everything will go grey. Everything will become boring, soulless....I already feel the lack of color in life already. There is nothing but grey, not even blackness, there is just the dulling sensations of capital harrowing out new needs into your soul, desire at the very least makes sense, but there is a fucking NEED for products, more so than there is the need for good food, good homes, a good time. Just replace it all with product. Product will save us. Product is the next Jesus. Jesus was produced. Biden is simply porky laughing at us for believing that the world won't be as grey as they would prefer it to be. How could you stand to live with yourselves after knowing this? HP Lovecraft is a bitch to the might of porky. Porky is more than a god. It is the universe itself.
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Trump and the "Left"
How many self-described "Leftists" do you think are going to take the Brunchpill if and when Biden is elected? Not just American "leftists" either, I'm seeing a lot of foreign "leftists" ridin' with Biden.
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Someone told me that socialism is when value is nonexistent? Or something like that, and how the USSR wasn't socialist, and there was never any real socialism or something. I've read theory but I still don't really recognize where this concept of no value comes from
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How can you justify censorship as a materialist?
If the material base of society is what determines all forms of speech, media and culture then how could you as a communist and a materialist justify the censorship of culture? Wouldn't you by doing that be admitting that there are severe flaws in whatever system you're in charge of to the point that people would want to speak about it?
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In this thread I will make the case for why the left must unite behind the green party, to get the white house in 2024. why I like the greens is because they are just socialistic enough to not be lying and just social democratic enough to hide our power level. Now many on the left think there is no outlet for bourgeois politics, in general I agree but there are ways to use it in tactic not in wants for end goals. what I mean by this is electoralism can be used by our movement to legitimize it, we need a Allende to go Castro. we are only begging for mass state oppression and de-legitimizing of our cause if we don't go down this path. a middle ground of both black panther militancy and MLK broad appeal is IMO the correct direction to head in.
this is only possible by kicking to the curb the opportunist wreckers and spliters. we need the IWW and other similar union groups at our back, we need the PSL and all socialist parties to join in together. the left has NO HOPE if we cant create a united front and enact a mass line. why yes I'm suggesting we do quasi-Leninism to the green party by pushing it to more and more to use democratic centralism and vanguardism. We MUST not allow the perfect to become the enemy of the very good. we must not get ahead of ourselves as to defeat ourselves before we're of the ground.
the goal in America is to get rid of the 2 bourgeois parties being the DNC and RNC. in order to stand a chance of even 30%+ yet alone a victory for the greens we must see every day from now till November 2024 as an election season. this is not to say we don't do a lot of outside movements with strikes... it is to say that we are never getting anywhere if we don't remove those 2. when it come to electoralism its not a yes or no question its a nuanced one where we use it for its benefits and lose it for it faults. if any of you actually think the left will get anywhere with 1000+ individual parties and smashies yes I support putting down fascist street violence with force if necessary, it just simply isn't a means of praxis you are a detriment to communist cause.
this thread it a call to action to reconsider the intersection we can make with electoralism and 21st century Leninism. its a thread to begin the social media and in person campaigns need to achieve these ends.
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"SOVIET BAD SOVIET WORSE THAN NAZIS 400 BAJILLIONS I AM FROM UCRANE"
Why are redditors such stupid fucking liberal faggots; I wish these niggas would die
What's with this shit with some obviously second generation pseudo-burger will start claiming to know of the "horrible oppression" of the Soviets because their parents lived their in the 80s
Honestly why are burgers such awful fucking degenerates as to have created a site like Reddit?
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Should we have copyright?
What are your opinions on copyright as a concept and should we move towards its abolishion?
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DOW/Market Watch Thread
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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Why explore space?
All the futurist aesthetics about exploring space is bullshit. Space is not going anywhere. "We're going to terraform Mars!" We need to terraform Earth. Have you seen how bad things are here? This crap about going to space is an enormous cope for the current state of the world. It reflects a juvenile drive to escape responsibility and reality and dare I say it reeks of quasi-religious eschatology about ascending to the heavens.
The Soviet space program focused more on near-earth orbit for a reason. Satellites have real life applications. The whole "space race" meme was a result of the US trying to make up for embarrassment by setting largely pointless goals purely for the sake of showing off. Clinging to spacefaring aesthetics that came out of the "space race" is falling for capitalist propaganda. Regular space travel has been 10 years away for 50 years. Space will be there to explore after we've sorted out the problems on our little world.
Don't be upset you were born too soon to explore the stars. You were born at the right time to get your species on the right track. And if we don't, space exploration will be even less likely to happen in the future.
Fuck space. Space can wait.
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the nuclear option against 4chan
Hiroyuki Nishimura seems to be worth <$10 million USD. Is there really not a single Democrat who can step forward to buy the site? I understand that the Dems are not our comrades, but I cannot think of anyone better to buy the site than Mike Bloomberg, who spent $1 billion on his own vanity campaign for the Democratic Leadership. Shuttering /pol/ and normalising the politics of the site would be good for us. Alternatively, we could convince Tencent to buy it, which would be even better.
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/Beardtube/ Growing Thread
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So apparently some militia member were plotting to overthrow the state government of michigan
>According to a sworn FBI affidavit, an undercover law enforcement source attended a June meeting in Dublin, Ohio, where a group of Michigan-based militia members discussed overthrowing state governments "that they believed were violating the US Constitution"
>"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," the charging document states. In one video, a suspect denounced the state's role in deciding when to reopen gyms during the coronavirus lockdown.
>The men met in a basement that was accessed by a trapdoor hidden under a rug, investigators say. Their phones were gathered and placed in another room to avoid secret recordings, but the undercover FBI source was wearing a separate recording device.
>Six men - five from Michigan and one from Delaware - are accused in federal court of plotting the kidnap. They allegedly planned to hold a "treason trial" against Mrs Whitmer.
>These six were named as Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Casert and Ty Garbin. Mr Garbin's residence, in a trailer park, was raided by authorities on Wednesday.
>The other seven face charges of terrorism and gang-related offences in state court in connection with the alleged abduction plot.
>They are Paul Bellar, Shawn Fix, Eric Molitor, Michael Null, William Null, Pete Musico and Joseph Morrison.
>The group wished to gather about "200 men" to storm the capitol building and take hostages, including the governor. They hoped to enact their plan before the November presidential election. If that failed, they planned to attack the governor at her home, officials say.
>The accused "co-ordinated surveillance of the governor's vacation home", said the US Attorney for the Western District of Michigan, adding that they also planned Molotov cocktail attacks on police officers, purchased a taser, and pooled their funds to purchase explosives and tactical equipment.
Moral of the story? This could potentially set a precedent for some crazy shit to start going down in Burgerland, so who knows what could happen next.
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The problem with that Karl Marx thinking is fractions and what motivates human desire. You can't take 100% output and give each person 100% of the output. Each person is rewarded a fraction of the output accordingly to what they do. You can't divide it evenly either, else that demotivates people. I.E Why spend 8 years studying to become an electrical engineer when one can become a garbage collector and get the same reward? That is the point of personal responsibility and individuality. Everybody has the freedom to do what they want with their time. Nobody is putting a gun to someone's head saying they can't study and get an education. If someone is born poor, its not their fault, but if they die poor its their fault not anybody else.
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Radical Social Democracy works, and it works better than any centrally planned system ever has.
I've never been able to find a genuinely convincing argument in favour of socialism over social-democracy. Nationalisation of key industries, a robust welfare state, and strong unions in a largely market capitalist economy solve every problem you lot look to communism for.
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marxist definition of facism ?
Liberals often describe fascism like a set of characteristics of people. That can be aspects of people they don't like. It can quickly degenerate into a political game, where fascism just means bad. More intellectually inclined descriptions of Fascism use check-lists of social rules, and non formal or formal cultural hierarchies. Often a description of a fascist character archetype is combined with a checklist to form a recipe how to detect fascism. The Result is an array of confusion that is completely useless.
To rise above the sea of confusion, describe fascism using Marxist concepts like contradictions in capitalism, class analysis, and material conditions. What is the class character of fascism? What material conditions give rise to fascism ? What are the contradictions in capitalism that lead to fascism ?
Mussolini defined fascism as corporatism which makes corporations a phenomenon related to fascism. Would you agree to that premise ? How flexible is fascism ? I ask cause big corporations are so invested in woke class collaboration. I wonder, could a new type of fascism start there ? which way would it go ? Are the woke identities going to be promoted as the new master-race or is it a trap or preamble to make them the new subhuman ? A related question is whether neoliberalism is counted as a subtype of fascism, a pre-stage that builds up to fascism, or something else entirely ?
Can you separate fascism from imperialism and aggressive expansion ? Can there be a fascism of capitalist implosion ?
The standard definition of fascism that was used by the Communist International during the 20th century:
>The open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital.
>Fascism is a most ferocious attack by capital on the mass of the working people.
>Fascism is unbridled chauvinism and predatory war.
>Fascism is rabid reaction and counter-revolution.
>Fascism is the most vicious enemy of the working class and of all working people.
Is it true today ?
What about the new propaganda material the USA state department is spreading that dengism is the new fascism, can I ignore this as a geopolitics ? In the 20th century Nazi Germany was a peer competitor to USA capitalists. They considered the Soviet Union as peer competitor, and also said they were a kind of Nazi. So now they consider all their peer competitors as another kind of Nazi ? Is this just American tunnel vision ? Glowies are spreading these views, which is understandable propaganda tactics of painting competing powers as the devil. But what about the people that believe this ?
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The Marxists here Have an Archaic Understanding of Fascism
The neo-nationalism that we're seeing take over regimes around the world, from Trump to Orban, was formulated by pic related and the rest of the French far-right to be sellable in a post-WWII world. "Ethnopluralism" means there is no expansionist drive to the new nationalism, and it no longer is opposed to democracy (though it is opposed to liberalism). Notably, this means Dengist China snugly fits the criteria for the new fascism.
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I have grown incredibly tired of all the libshits suckers soyfacing over le epic Elon Musk and Tesla. I want a thread compiling all the worst or the stupidest shit the company or the man has ever done or proposed.
I know a few things right of the bat that I kind of know already, but want to confirm with proper sources:
>Tesla being a scam and a ponzi scheme
>Anti-worker business practices
>The idiotic car tube project
>The tweet where he lowkey admitted that he helped couping Bolivia
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What went wrong? What are the Positives?
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I have a question anons. Is there any other word for socialist or leftist available? Saying I'm a socialist is a instant turn off in a debate considering all the shit people get fed. Any new terms, old terms, or created terms?
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees
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Poland hate trade: abortion practically illegal
So the Polish constitutional court just ruled that abortion is illegal, except in cases of incest, rape or when the woman's life is in danger.
When one thinks, that Poland can't get any worse, they manage to become even worse.
I wonder how a katoliban state such as Poland even manage to have a communist party ....
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Is 4chan's Trump worship genuine or is it just to "own the left"?
Seriously, I've always found their support of him strange. I mean, if it's simply because they think it's funny for a retard like him to be president then I can kinda see that. However, they seem to genuinely love him to the point where any criticism of the man is met with fury. It's also strange how the stormfags there constantly dickride him to hell and back despite Trump being one of the most Zionist presidents in recent memory.
I mean, it has to be one big joke that the site is in on, right?
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The fuck is up with leftist youtube
>leftist youtube channel.
<A hour and fourty minutes long video about analizing the new superhero movie through a marxist lense.
<A month passes.
<He posts a video. Another hour and fourty minutes video, but now talking about the new series that it's hitting it on Netflix and how it is somehow eugenic or something i dunno.
>Rightwing youtube channel.
<Posts 3 videos a day.
<Posts about relevant stuff happening around in their country, follows the current news and talks about them.
<Actually does something for their movement (keep them "informed").
<Because of him posting 3 times a day, youtube favorites his content.
<Actually drives new people into the alt-right thanks to profiting form the algorithm.
Please shut the fuck up, I don't fucking care if Mad Max's dog is an actual reference towards the rate of profit or if the roman larpers from actually a fucking great game a shitty game are hegelian or some shit, shut the fuck up for the love of god shut the fuck up shut the fuck up.
Right now the best move for the leftist movement worldwide would be if news anon made a youtube channel, for fucks sake.
But seriously, why this need to over-analyze everything? Do you remember when actual communist talked about what they were concerned with? You know, a new labour law passing court, or a development inside of a communist party which they didn't like, or just reporting what's happening around the world, instead of wanking their egos on how much they now about fucking consumer cinema and useless frankfurt school knowledge? I fucking don't because that was decades, some may say a century. I've been living in this hell for all of my life and now discovered it.
Shut the fuck up consoomer retard shut the fuck up please shut the fuck up.
>inb4 this goes into the internet general.
Shut the fuck up jannie this is something beyond leftist e-celeb gossip bullshit, I don't fucking care Vaush Langley is fucking a direct asset from the lord of the rings. I'm ranting about the actual state of the left on the internet, one of the more important tools for propaganda since the 90s, and we still haven't done crap about it.
>Why won't you do one you fucking sperg.
Give me leftists newspaper to make it and I will, I have nothing to do as of now as I'm a fucking retarded NEET as of now.
Although my mother language is not english, it's spanish, so there's that.
Deleted and posted again because the image spoilered for some reason.
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It's time to wake up! Your 1 hour of sleep is over! Your lunch break will be in 10 hours. Don't complain that it's just a slab of bread. I'm a job creator and I need to save money to create jobs.
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Why /pol/acks love to cope everyday?
Happy Indigenous Day, folks. Sorry if it's too late. Seriously what do you think of using genetical engineering, DNA improvement, or eugenics to reeducate those imbeciles? Fuck, I hate it. Inferiority complex attitude everyday. Why people love to cope & cuck themselves? Please, give me your best memes regarding our cuckold material conditions. Thank you.
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inb4 lurk moar
I am a right leaning, middle class white dude. Why has the modern left vilified me instead of trying to win me over?
I don't hate anyone, I dislike Trump, I think the corporate robber barons should hang and the middle class life should be what you strive to live. Why isn't there a more concentrated effort from you guys to try and win people like me over? Every single day I move further right and I hate it.
Edit: Un-anchored, because OP seems genuine.
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We are being manipulated from everybody.
We know, that the left is being manipulated by US/western intelligence services to misguide it to serve the interests of the ruling class. One of the most prominent examples is the Congress for Cultural Freedom. But we must consider, that the left is also targeted by foreign super powers: Russia and China. Basically we have three types of leftists:
1. Pro western leftists, like Vaush
2. Leftists who oppose the west AND Russia/China, while sometimes having a positive view on countries which play no hegemonic role in the world, such as Cuba, Vietnam or DPRK (Bad Empanada, Luna Oi, Jason Unruhe)
3. Pro-Russia/Pro-China Leftists (Caleb Maupin, BayArea415)
Resisitng US/western manipulation is an important issue, but we must also understand, that we shouldn't become stooges of alt-imperialist countries such as Russia and China.
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ITT we post pictures of socialist/communist leaders of the global south and say what we like or dislike about them
Pic related is Nasser. I like him for his land reforms and humiliating the Brits but i dislike him for facilitating Egypt's modern dictatorship tho tbf it was Sadat who ruined most things
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So apparently some people here blindly trust bourgeois "science" and all her claims. Why is this? The same "science" that's been used to support eugenics, climate change denial, racism & sexism, "human nature is capitalism", etc.
Of course, I'm obviously not claiming science is fake or that all bourgeois science is fake. Rather just that I think some people here are too uncritical of it.
ITT, discuss this and post leftist scientists.
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Is he /our guy/?
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How do you know if you've been brainwashed?
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/confederatepol/ - general
ITT we secede from /USApol/ because of discrimination.
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Are fascists and white nationalists any real threat to anyone? If Biden wins this small reactionary swelling will hopefully subside right?
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democracy is authoritarian
if in a community a decision is made according to what the majority wants then that is oppressive towards the minority of that community that did not agree with this decision. a less authoritarian way to run a community would be by consensus. where members of a free association make proposals which would be discussed until a general agreement is reached by all its members. you might use direct as a last resort when consensus is impossible in a certain situation but you can not base your whole system on majority rule and call it anti authoritarian
>okay bro that is cool and all but why should i care?
i have seen a lot of anarchists on this board who have read little to no theory and as a result still support "direct democracy" this message is targeted both to these anarchists and Marxists who might have been left to believe that anarchists actually believe in direct democracy, while every serious anarchist theorist has opposed majority rule based systems like direct democracy. for more info on this here is a very short text by Malatesta on the subject: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-democracy-and-anarchy
mind you there is much more written about this and tons of longer texts in the anarchist library
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why doesnt /leftypol/ believe in subjective theory of value like the rest of the world?
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Lets try that again
A New Era for Bunkerchan!
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What are your thoughts on the protests in Thailand?
Don't tell me this is another CIA color revolution and we as leftists should support thai royalists
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Bolivia's President-elect Arce says 'no role' for Morales in new government
“He will not have any role in our government,” Arce told Reuters at the MAS headquarters in Bolivia’s administrative capital La Paz.“He can return to the country whenever he wants, because he’s Bolivian... but in the government it’s me who has to decide who forms a part of the administration and who does not.”
Snowden Granted Permanent Russian Residency – Lawyer
Russia has granted permanent residency to former U.S. spy agency contractor and whistleblower Edward Snowden after his current permit expired, his lawyer told state media Thursday.“Snowden was granted an open-ended residence permit earlier today,” the state-run TASS news agency quoted his lawyer Anatoly Kucherena as saying.
Koba is back: Stalin statue to be erected in South Ossetia
A three-meter monument, dedicated to the legendary Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, will be erected in the village of Tsorbisi, in South Ossetia. The initiator of the project is Dzambolat Tedeev, head coach of the Russian national freestyle wrestling team.
EXCLUSIVE: Iran's Khamenei ordered end to Iraqi attacks on US interests
“Khamenei's orders were straightforward and clear. All attacks targeting US interests in Iraq must stop,” a senior commander of an Iranian-backed armed faction involved in the attacks told Middle East Eye.
Austrian woman receives 12-yr prison sentence for sedition after trying to enlist military to OVERTHROW government
Monika Unger, 44, the self-declared president of the so-called ‘Confederation’, was convicted of sedition and incitement to high treason in the southern city of Graz. She reportedly attempted to marshall the Austrian army as part of a plot to overthrow the government in Vienna, and wrote a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the hope that he would send military assistance.
U.S. envoy secretly met associate of Venezuela's Maduro on peaceful exit but no deal: sources
A senior Trump administration envoy met secretly with a representative of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro last month to try to work out Maduro’s peaceful exit from power, but no agreement was reached, three people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.
Venezuela: President Maduro Calls For Communal Parliament Law
The Head of State informed that he would propose to the new Parliament elected next December 6, through the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) and its allies of the Great Patriotic Pole (GPPSB), legislation aimed at promoting the consultation with the communal parliament all projects and issues discussed in the nation's legislative body.
Colombia: National Strike Joins the Minga As Mobilization Grows
The Social Minga in Bogota joined the National Strike that is taking place this Wednesday in Colombia with the aim of "defending life and democracy, protesting against violence and demanding the negotiation of the national emergency document.
U.S. weighs labeling leading human rights groups ‘anti-Semitic’
The Trump administration is considering declaring that several prominent international NGOs — including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Oxfam — are anti-Semitic and that governments should not support them, two people familiar with the issue said.
Fighters in Ain Issa: Turkey and mercenaries massacre civilians
The occupying Turkish state and its gangs have been attacking the populated Ain Issa region with warplanes and heavy weapons for more than a year. In these attacks, many people, including women and children, were killed, injured and displaced.
Oil Spill Hits Russia’s Pacific Coast Amid String of Pollution Incidents
An oil slick has appeared in a bay near a ship repair plant on Russia’s Pacific coast, local media reported Thursday, marking at least the third oil spill to hit Russia this month.Aerial photographs showed a rainbow-colored area consistent with an oil spill on the water's surface near the shipyard in the Far East city of Nakhodka.
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capitalism scared a zoomer
i'm just in my 20s, never worked in any condition, my friends have and they told me stories of all kinds. bosses yelling at workers, fights breaking out, customers being dicks. i don't think i have anxiety but this shit scares me. after reading about socialism i've some how mentally prepared myself for the wrong workforce. my parents want me to start working soon (tho prob not during the pandemic) and i'm kinda scared of hierarchy by this point. i don't want to diagnose myself, but i feel like i have depression and anxiety FROM capitalism. does anyone else feel this way?
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In all seriousness
Are White nationalists actually a threat? They seem to not be, but I’m asking you guys just in case i’m not missing anything
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fighting windmills, also >>1028327
Why am I supposed to give money to beggars again? I am not here to correct the failings of the state and these people are clearly drug addicts
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Left-Centrist here. What made you become a hard leftist? It sounds like suicide to support.
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/leftybritpol/ - Manchester Tier 3 for thee but not for me edition
Fuck boris innit bruv
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/Anti-Capitalism General/ -Reasons
Discussing and giving information about reasons for anti-capitalism
.I will only give names,people can research theirselves.It can help us to making non-leftists visitors at there or other people know about capitalism
1-Monopolization (by competition)2-Aristocracy or How Capital Forms by İnheritence 3-Falling Rate of Profit 4-How things like Iphone-Google-Nuclear Energy- are actually producted by public-sector or USSR 5-Monkey of Wall Street 6-Overproduction and destruction of products for scarcity(like wheat)7-Explotation of third-world 8-Danger of Automation 9-Advertisements and non-existance of Choice Freedom 10- Adam Smith is an Anti-Capitalist 11-Productivity rises but wages are not 12-How Marx is Anti-Egelitarian 13-Poverty İs Rising 14-ınividualism vs. Collectivism is an false-dicthonomy 15-Stagnation İn Science 16-Cooperation between animals 17-How %80 of new-businesses are falling 18-Fashion-Collectivism 19-Environmental Damage 20-Kılling of Middle-İncome people 21-How Efficient markets are producing bad-products for making people who use normal-products to think they use good-products
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Alt-Board Revival Initiative
I'm back. You've been too comfortable again I see.
Get your ass off of /leftypol/ and ask a question on >>>/edu/
to educate yourself. What you are too scared of being called a nerd?
Are you telling me you haven't played any >>>/games/
lately to talk about? You don't want to play with your comrades?
You are too cool to watch >>>/anime/
? Are you some sort of normalfag, quit acting cooler than you are.
Tell me at least you have a >>>/hobby/
besides posting here.. You do? Then why aren't you making a thread about it to share your passion with your fellow revolutionaries?
Ever heard about hacking? As a leftist you should learn about >>>/tech/
. Or are you some sort of boomer who can't even write an email?
HELLOOO? Am I speaking to a wall right now? Or are you >>>/dead/
? Don't tell me you are some sort of newfag who hasn't visited our hidden board before?
This is what you will do. You will make a thread or a post on another board and link what ever threads you like in here. This way you bump this thread and remind people to post on alt-boards as well.
Get to it, comrades!
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As an individual, what should I do to prepare for the climate crisis? What kind of skills will be useful say, 20 years in the future as compared to now? I'm not asking for lifestylist attempts to try and somehow personally prevent climate change, but rather what measures should I take to prepare for the future?
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Discussing Climate and David Attenborough's "A Life on Our Planet
David Attenborough just put out a new documentary that was really well done, and was actually pretty realistic about the coming climate crisis. Didn't pull any punches like most hopium filled publications do, and as far as I know I don't know why a >90 year old man would want to spend what are the last years of his life bullshitting people about something he's done for half of his life or more.
Talked about the desertification of oceans, of land, of sopsoil being exhausted by our farming practices, overpopulation, temperature rises and what that means for humans and the wider ecosystem at large. These are things we have to consider as communists. Personally, it has always been my belief since I became aware of just how big an issue this was right around the time I left college that human society as we know it globally will be knocked down a civilization or two even. It was a pretty tough thing to realize, as I was also awash with enthusiasm for the material I had read from Marx, Lenin, Engals and coming to learn more about the USSR, China and such. Anyway, what I'm ultimately saying is that when I post on here ultimately its from a dark place because I feel like while capitalism will die any hope for what we know as socialism very well goes with it.
Ultimately though for the purposes of this post the documentary was well done and while it had some liberal solutions at the end, I know a socialist world order (that won't exist in our lifetimes in the developed form we need to beat this issue) could have been able to beat this issue. Producing for use value would be a huge first. Capitalism won't, and I know liberals can't even face that prospect. I think the conclusions cannot be ignored just because of hope and belief socialism will triumph somehow, and at least acknowledging a possible end to everything we know has to be considered.
NOTE: While the documentary is available through a certain paid service, I don't see why certain free platforms wouldn't have it. I hear there are things called trackers that carry it in high quality and other formats, and a certain bay. If you haven't seen it, do it for the knowledge, for a love of animals or a combination of both.
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Why is it more acceptable to praise LatAm anti-American governments?
With the recent Bolivian election it seems every left-type is singing praises of MAS, including Chomsky, Vaush, Maupin, Bernie, etc. We've all seen the clips of Bernie praising Cuban healthcare or Corbyn praising Chavismo. My question is why it seems acceptable to praise these countries but not other leftist/anti-American/anti-imperialist governments, even if the aforementioned Latin American governments readily support them.
I'm not really interested in discussing the specifics of these governments as that's already been done to death in a million other threads. I'm simply interested in why it's acceptable to praise Cuban healthcare, but not say, North Korea. Or why it's acceptable for someone to support Chavez but call Assad a fascist, even though CHavez actively supported Assad with diesel during the civil war. Even if you don't like Assad or Gaddafi or whoever else it's impossible not to notice the contradiction.
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Dude marx predicted that comunism will win...
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Thoughts on general elections
Should they be held? If so, how often? I know east germany held them and yugoslavia held them. I also heard that the soviet union held them, but I don't know if that's true.
(pic unrelated obviously)
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Google is automatically giving data to police based on search keywords, court docs show
>There are few things as revealing as a person's search history, and police typically need a warrant on a known suspect to demand that sensitive information. But a recently unsealed court document found that investigators can request such data in reverse order by asking Google to disclose everyone who searched a keyword rather than for information on a known suspect.
>The original warrant sent to Google is still sealed, but the report provides another example of a growing trend of data requests to the search engine giant in which investigators demand data on a large group of users rather than a specific request on a single suspect.
>The keyword warrants are similar to geofence warrants, in which police make requests to Google for data on all devices logged in at a specific area and time. Google received 15 times more geofence warrant requests in 2018 compared with 2017, and five times more in 2019 than 2018. The rise in reverse requests from police have troubled Google staffers, according to internal emails.
>Google said Thursday that it works to protect the privacy of its users while also supporting law enforcement. The company declined to disclose how many keyword warrants it's received in the last three years. Google is also facing criticism for complying with broad data requests such as geofence and keyword searches.
>"Think of the ramifications in the future if everyone who searched something in the privacy of their own home was subject to interviews by federal agents," Spodek said. "Someone could be interested in how people die a certain way or how drug deals are done, and it could be misconstrued or used improperly."
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How is "read theory" any more of a coherent response to critiques of Marxism than "read the bible" is to critiques of christianity?
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ITT people worse than Hitler
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Can anyone give me the rundown on Nikolay Rastorguev and Lyube?
For a Soviet era rock band they seemed quite good, really popular, soviet military aesthetics. Then the 90's role around and they end up being Yeltsinites publishing their only song in English: "No more barricades" a definite departure from the pro-soviet atmosphere of songs like Комбат and Не валяй дурака, Америка. Rastorguev is now a member of Putin's United Russia party (though I'm not sure in what regard), but some time ago put out an album I believe named "Who Said We Lived Poorly" or something to that affect, with an album aesthetic that seemed very nostalgic, and songs like Stalingrad reviving some of their previous Soviet military appeal. I'm an Angloid, so I barely understand much of what I can find on them, can any Russians or people with knowledge on them enlighten me on what their deal is?
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Why is Uruguay the only capitalist Latin American country where most things actually work, with a decent income and living standard and less corruption?
Also, I've heard the Communist Party of Uruguay is part of the popular front government. Are they doing a good job?
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Time to take the pill that socialism is the destruction of the division of labor and surplus human labor, not "muh stateless classless moneyless" like you read on Wikipedia. Rather, what I mean to say is that your thinking process is fundamentally flawed. You should not be "aiming" for a classless moneyless society, rather you should be thinking about how do we destroy the human division of labor and surplus human labor, the rest will naturally arise through this.
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Prove that you are not an braindead drone and say 1 positicve thing about capitalism.
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What is wrong with the modern left?
Wanna know why the right is winning so hard right now? Cuz they have learned how to sell their ideology to boomers and normies by putting on a veneer of respectability and political viability. Fascists have learned to be nice and trick people into supporting them. Meanwhile, modern leftists have thought it brilliant to be as abrasive as possible, openly calling soldiers pussies and unironically singing the praises of China and the Soviet Union.
Fascists demand to be taken seriously and capitalize on worker alienation. They dress well and speak assertively. Leftists seem to take pride in looking like bums and prefer to raise money for bourgeois children with gender dysphoria instead of addressing the needs of the working class in our age of globalization. Until the modern left realizes that they actually have to get non-socialists on board instead of lecturing them and telling them to read theory, the world will continue to head towards a cyberpunk dystopia.
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This is your brain on Naziism.
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21st century Leninism
Since this theme is recurring more and more in various threads, I'm making this thread for anons to contribute.
Post new (i'd say from the late 80s onwards) books that could be used to update the Ml framework of thought and explain why.
To begin with, i'd say that the first two books in this work of updating Ml thought would be:
1) Towards a new socialism, P.Cockshott
2) Arguments for socialism, P.Cockshott
3) Imperialism in the 21st Century-John Smith
Hoping to foster a discussion and for anons to contribute. Even posters for other tendencies are allowed as long as it's constructive critic and not sectarian bullshit.
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war in the Artsakh
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A thread for collecting polfaces since the pocels keep spamming the general on leftypol.
Edit: By the way, the meme is on Know Your Meme. You can upload your edits there too.
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Immigration and multiculturalism
>we welcome immigrants so much today our children are being blown apart at pop concerts
>immigrants are coming here to take our jobs and kill us all
How to argue against this?
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A common misconception by holocaust deniers is that Hitler was just this cool guy who loved blacks. He shook Jesse Owens' hand and all. Really?
>African German mulatto (a person of mixed white and Black ancestry) children were marginalized in German society, isolated socially and economically, and not allowed to attend university. Racial discrimination prohibited them from seeking most jobs, including service in the military. With the Nazi rise to power they became a target of racial and population policy. By 1937, the Gestapo had secretly rounded up and forcibly sterilized many of them. Some were subjected to medical experiments; others mysteriously “disappeared.”
Here's further elaboration on their experiments.
In present day Namibia before Germany lost her colonies with the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 following WWI, German soldiers mass raped and genocided the indigenous peoples of Namibia. Dr. Eugene Fischer conducted medical experiments on children born from these rapes. His conclusion was that children born out of bi-racial unions were “inferior” to their German fathers. His research inspired Adolf Hitler and in the 1930s, Fischer taught his racist theories to Nazi doctors. One of his students, Joseph Mengele, was responsible for the medical experiments in the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp. In fact, in the second pic, it shows the head of a Shark Island prisoner, which was later used in medical experimentation.
Most notorious of all was the Shark Island camp physician, Dr Hugo Bofinger. He carefully decapitated the bodies of 17 prisoners, including a one-year-old girl. After breaking open the skulls he removed and weighed the brains before placing each head in preserving alcohol and sealing them in tins for export to the University of Berlin.
There they were used in experiments to prove the similarity between the Nama people and anthropoid apes in a terrible prefiguring of the darkest race experiments of Josef Mengele, the Nazi 'Angel of Death', who similarly sent body parts from Auschwitz back to Berlin.
Aside from experimentation on blacks, you also have Hilarius Gilges, who was lynched in Germany in 1933. Here's some more examples of the Nazi program towards blacks:
>Take also Bayume Mohamed Husen (a full-blooded black man), in NS Germany he worked various jobs, he worked as a waiter but was fired in 1935 on racial grounds, he then joined a qausi-human zoo (Deutsch Afrika Schau), in 1939 he asked to join the Whermach but was rejected on racial grounds. He then worked periodically in movies playing minor roles. Eventually in 1944 he was arrested by the Gestapo for committing racial defilement (Rassenschande) by having a relationship with a White (Aryan) woman.
What about the sterilization of the Rhineland bastards?
>“Once a child was decided to be of black descent, the child was taken immediately to a hospital and sterilized…many times without their parents’ knowledge.”
>“J.F., of German nationality, born September 20, 1920, living in Mainz, is a descendant of the former colored Allied occupation forces, in this case from North Africa, and shows corresponding typical anthropological characteristics, for which reason he shall be sterilized.
>C.M.B., of German nationality, born July 5, 1923, living in Koblenz, is a descendant of a member of the former Allied occupation forces, in this case an American negro, and shows corresponding typical anthropological characteristics, for which reason she shall be sterilized.
>A.A. of German nationality, born March 14, 1920, living in Duisburg, is a descendant of a member of the former Allied occupation forces, in this case a negro from Madagascar, and shows corresponding typical anthropological characteristics, for which reason he shall be sterilized.”
The Fate of Mixed Blood Children in Germany by Reiner Pommerin. German Studies Review. Vol. 5, No. 3 (Oct., 1982), pp. 315-323
In Albert Speer's memoirs, Hotler had this to say about Jesse Owens:
>“Each of the German victories—and there were a surprising number of these—made him happy, but he was highly annoyed by the series of triumphs by the marvelous colored American runner, Jesse Owens. “People whose antecedents came from the jungle were primitive,” Hitler said with a shrug; “their physiques were stronger than those of civilized whites. They represented unfair competition and hence must be excluded from future games.”
Further, Baldur von Shirach, the head of the Hitler Youth, wrote that Hitler said this the next day, in the midst of a very long rant:
>“The Americans should be ashamed of themselves, letting Negroes win their medals for them. I shall not shake hands with this Negro… Do you really think that I will allow myself to be photographed shaking hands with a Negro?”
So as you can see, Hitler hated blacks as much as anyone else did at the time. Plus blacks only accounted for 20,000 of the 65 million of Germany's population at the time. I could go on about gays, especially Heinrich Himmler's policies towards them, but yet these revisionists are trying to have you believe this bullshit so that they can recruit more minority members into their groups to appeal to a broader audience. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM.
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What do you think will become of the Republican party post-Trump?
Trump seems to have essentially hijacked the Republican party, makes its ideology be whatever he believes. Once he's out of office (which seems quite likely to be soon give recent polls), the question becomes, what sort of ideology will Republicans embrace? The Republican party is currently facing a demographic crisis, in which many of the demographic groups most loyal to them (whites, evangelicals, boomers) are shrinking, while many of the demographic groups most loyal to their opposition (non-whites, irreligious people, millennials and zoomers) are growing. There's really 2 ways I could see them try to address this demographic crisis:
1. Change their platform to make it more appealing to non-whites, irreligious people, and young people.
2. Pursue policies that reduce the influence of nonwhites, irreligious people, and young people, while magnifying the influence of whites, religious people, boomers, and their political donors.
While Republicans don't seem to have pursued option 1 much, they have noted that it might be a good idea, most notably in the 2013 RNC Autopsy. I am honestly sure how they would go about pursuing such a strategy in practice. There's also the possibility that pandering more to non-whites and irreligious people could alienate their base, creating a lose-lose situation for the party. Nevertheless, this could help maintain the long term viability of the party; the question is whether or not the party and/or its donors want to pursue such a strategy.
Trump and some of his Republican predecessors seem to have pursued option 2, but I would argue it is a very dangerous option. It would require the effective disenfranchisement of large swaths of the American population, and could potentially lead to fascism or something close to it (perhaps Russian-style illiberal democracy). If the strategy fails, it could lead to the permanent destruction of the Republican party.
So what do you think the Republican party will look like after Trump is gone?
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>the socialist league of Uralic nations will never exist
>the only nations which wouldn't be so spastic and hyperbolic as other Eurasians were on communism
>the nations which weren't for the most part corrupted by internal classism
>even the native religions aren't nearly as pretentious and authoritarian as Christianity or Islam, and actually help socializing
>there was already a communal culture of helping one another in construction and such as a village community
>instead Finland and Estonia get Westernified and the rest fucked over by Russification
KILL ME NOW
THIS TIME LINE IS RUINED
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how based was pre 1956 counterrevolution Hungary?
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Post your bookshelves or current reading stack, comrades.
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We here at /leftypol/ talk a lot about reading theory, but what about fiction? Have you read any good leftist fiction lately? I recently read pic related; it's by a Kenyan Marxist and is about the decolonization of Kenya. Post more recs here.
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What's Their Future Plan?
As everybody here knows,capitalism have it's own periods and have it's own future(which some marxists say) like falling rate of profit or economic-socialization/monopolization...But capitalists aren't retarded,they know all of them and what they are doing.Also it looks like there can't be revolution anymore,they watch fucking everything;latest thai-attack because of small-thread or face-scannings at blm-movement was visible-side of iceberg,they can purge all leftists from internet if they want.So the question is at there;what is their plan?
Will they nuke entire-earth at last-crisis and start to live in their nuclear-bunkers? or they will create techocratic-slavery(think what boomers think about communism)where all of us slave to them forever? Will they start WW3 to increasing-ROP?(which is dangerous)Or Will they make theirselves ubermensch with CRİSPR/Transhumanism and go to the space?(Which Hawking said)Or will they genocide all of us and live in communism theirselves?They also have super-computers their side(they laugh to us when we talk about cybersocialism...) which makes them more powerful.
Also the stuff Agenda-21 look scary to me however there are bommers who claim it's marxist but it's something that not very normal to me;do you really think that UN really care about the world and would do an big project that good for us?I used to read an turkish-book called 2051:Half of Humanity Will Die(which had make me anti-elitist) which gives information about important things like climate-change,robots and extreme-inequality and the thing is nearly everything becomes literally fucked-up at 2050-area like how ROP will be nearly zero at 2050(Roberts say that) and that project also have relation with,even they call it sometimes asAgenda 2050 which makes it more scarier.
What do you think about their future plans?
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Has uniting with reactionaries ever worked out for the Left?
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So... What exactly is the Alt Right's "endgame"?
They love to bitch about muh Juice and Naggers but rarely do they ever propose a "solution" and if they do they never explain how it can be plausible or how it would come to fruition.
Do these faggots even have a plan?
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I can not describe someone more fucking pathetic than a zoophile brony nazi, they claim they support Hitlers and national socialism ideals while they masturbate to pony scat porn.
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Do people really fall for this?
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Quiero comenzar un canal de youtube diciendo y comentando noticias.
Si sabes Español y demás, te puedes quedar a mirar. O no, no soy policía.
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Hey you! Yes you! comrade hurry!
I am a time traveler and I will let you write a short 140 character message to a historical figure of your choice. Make it count!
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So, I'm a little confused, because Marxists talk a lot about materialism and scientific socialism and stuff, and calling people moralists, but don't you need some kind of axiomatic goal to push towards in the first place to then use the scientific method and material analysis and whatnot to then assist in that goal? For example: Humanity is good, I like humanity, and the most constructive system for humanity is socialism.
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Bruh how the fuck is porky...just convincing everyone that there is no Depression?
Like how did porky and the media niggas just cover up the worst economic collapse in a century? How did these niggas actually manage to make people, particularly burgers, just....oblivious to the fact that they and everyone else are now poor as shit? How did porky's mastery of hyper reality grow so much in just ten years since OWS?
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What (non-news) magazines/periodicals/quarterlies/websites do you recommend, comrades?
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Marx was not a anti-semite
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Post right-wing/liberal memes, media, talking points, etc. that you want debunked
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This has probably been asked a billion times but if I'm upper middle class can I still try to advocate for socialism/communism and how?
Picrel was a textile mill owner who used his profits to share his and Marx's works
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- sewer samples March 2019 Spain test positive for corona
- There were cases of entire schools being sick with pneumonia all throughout 2019 in the US
- Trump had an emergency hospital visit Nov 2019
- Corona "officially" started spreading Nov 2019
- By Dec 2019 it was obvious to everyone on the internet
- US gov had 4 months but literally did nothing
- Trump is on tape in Feb 2020 admitting in private "this virus is insanely bad"
- Despite this he went maskless for the rest of the year
- Trump only gets sick at end Sept 2020, which is curiously 11 months after his mysterious hospital visit
- It just came out today that, back in March 2020, the WHITE HOUSE told the CDC to tell public "don't wear masks on the subway", intentionally driving up deaths
- The Chinese virus strain has been confirmed to be 10x milder than the European one
- The crisis could have been completely averted by letting in more Chinese tourists, and banning Euros, or at least banning both
- The virus has been scientifically confirmed to be specifically deadlier in Black Americans due to genetic reasons (apart from obesity/stress/lifestyle)
- The virus supposedly came from bats, but bat consumption is much higher in Southeast Asia/Pacific Islands than in southern China. Bat biodiversity is also low in China compared to these areas.
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Who’s at the top of your “I’ll be glad when they’re dead” list?
I’ve been watching a bunch of videos of people celebrating Thatcher’s death and it got me thinking about who I’d go out into the street to party over their death for. I think my #1 choice is probably G. Maxwell, but only after she’s properly sentenced to prison or death. If she gets assassinated I’m going full chimp mode.
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Blame the Jew -- The Mason -- The White -- or the Fascist
Pull one group down, and see another rise. See that there are Useful idiots on the Right and Left.
Is there room for an A-Political Economic revolution. Create a new, and superior Economic model, and you don't need to eat the Rich, or Expel the Juden. Build a system based on Meritocracy and, Productive Labor based Currency.
If the system does not diminish Corruption, then a new class of Parasites will take power.
So, it is the System which it at fault.
If we build a superior economic Vehicle, all will come.. not out of Political Fervor, but from Reason, and legitimate Need for a Living Wage, Education, and Healthcare.
The entire Economic Model should operate like a Worker Owned cooperative, with local Cooperatives managoing themselves, with a Technocratic leadership model. Those who demonstrate excellent skills in Labor should be elevated to Team Leaders, but all should have enough. Also , all Workers should be paid on the Same Economic Model. In this system , there are 2 classes. Those who work, and those who do not.
What r your thoughts?
Can we put our differences aside, and Practice Natural Mutual Aid. Instead of more Roads, more Food Gardens. Instead of more Hospitals, more Apothecaries. Uhh, embrace the Luddite Way. with the Power of Open Source software
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Why, after independently developing techniques for gunpowder warfare equivalent to those in Europe, imported proto-industrial production techniques from Song-dynasty China, and having encounters with European trading powers, did Japan not continue on in the early modern era a path of development that would have led eventually to capitalism as in the West? Instead they banned the proliferation of firearms, locked down the country and eschewed all foreign interaction, and maintained a feudal polity for another 250 years.
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Why are so many chuds obsessed with japan?
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What do you think of Democratic Socialists of America?
I know a lot of people here like to fantasize about revolution and shit but, to be honest, there are no noteworthy revolutionary organizations in the United States at the moment. The largest socialist organization in the United States is the Democratic Socialists of America, with about 70,000 members. Here are some perks about DSA:
-Largest socialist organization in the U.S.
-Massive growth in recent years, from less than 10,000 in 2016 to more than 70,000 as of August 2020
-Multi-tendency (DemSocs, LibSocs, Marxists), so a good vehicle for left unity
-Works with labor unions, community organizations, student activists, and other progressive organizations
-Elected 2 members to the House of Representatives in 2018 (3 members currently serve in the House), and at least 2 more have won the 2020 Democratic primaries
-More than a dozen members elected to State legislatures since 2018
-Engages in anti-fascist activity
-Closest thing to a proper left-wing party in the U.S.
So are you going complain about muh electoralism online while your revolutionary organizations do nothing but larp and remain irrelevant or are you going to support a rapidly-growing organization that is actually getting shit done?
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Explain to me why you hate this man and his followers.
What are the things he said you disagree with?
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UK Allocated £450,000 To Opponents of Venezuela's Government
Declassified UK journalists revealed that the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office (FCDO) awarded £ 450,000 to “Transparencia Venezuela”, an organization using the fight against corruption as a front to support the destabilizing actions that opposition politician Juan Guaido has been carrying out against the administration of President Nicolas Maduro.
Warring sides in Libya agree to avoid escalation, open land & sea routes during UN-backed peace talks
Libya’s warring factions have signed off on a plan to open the country’s land and sea routes, amid ongoing negotiations backed by the United Nations. The breakthrough could be the first step towards securing a ceasefire.
Chilean Communist Party calls for new constitution ahead of Sunday's crucial vote
Victory in the poll would mark a decisive break with the current constitution which was controversially introduced in 1980 under the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet.
Arce to Restore Relations With Cuba and Venezuela, Blasts OAS
"We are going to reestablish all relations. This government has acted very ideologically, depriving the Bolivian people of access to Cuban medicine, Russian medicine, and advances in China. For a purely ideological issue, it has exposed the population in a way unnecessary and harmful," Arce explained.
Montenegro's farmers & environmental protesters ruin army's plans for mortar shelling exercises
The mountain region of Sinjajevina was selected to host military drills including mortar shelling by the Montenegro army. However, the plan didn't sit well with local farmers and environmental activists, who set up camps in the area and staged non-stop protests to oppose the drills.
Spain’s parliament debates no-confidence vote to oust govt
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez is facing a no-confidence debate in parliament brought by the nation’s far-right Vox party, but it appears the maneuver lacks the necessary votes to topple the government.
Internal Market Bill defeated in the Lords
THE government suffered a heavy defeat in the House of Lords today over controversial Brexit legislation that would enable ministers to break international law.
Israeli policeman who killed autistic Palestinian charged with reckless homicide
An Israeli policeman who killed an unarmed autistic Palestinian man in May could stand trial for reckless homicide pending a hearing, the country's justice ministry announced.Iyad al-Halak, 32, was killed by an Israeli policeman on 30 May while on his way to a special needs school in occupied East Jerusalem's Old City.
NATO to set up new space center amid China, Russia concerns
This week, the site at Kester is set to fall under a new orbit, when NATO announces that it is creating a space center to help manage satellite communications and key parts of its military operations around the world.
Turkish police officers go on trial over killing of Kurdish human rights lawyer
Tahir Elci, a Kurdish lawyer and president of the Diyarbakir Bar Association, was shot dead on 28 November 2015, shortly after giving a press conference in the city. At that time, Diyarbakir had been the scene of fierce clashes between the Turkish security forces and armed groups linked to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).
Coronavirus spreads in Nagorno-Karabakh amid heavy fighting
People who are sick with the coronavirus pack into chilly basements alongside the healthy to hide from artillery fire. The local health minister who tested positive keeps working, despite a fever and pneumonia. Doctors with the virus perform surgery on the wounded.
Amid US Sanctions, Venezuelan Oil Tanker at Risk of Spilling 1.3 Million Barrels and Devastating Caribbean Ecosystems
Recent pictures and footage show the FSO Nabarima, which has been in the Gulf of Paria since January 2019, tilting at about a 25º angle. The boat flies the Venezuelan flag and is operated by the Venezuelan state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA) and Eni, the Italian oil giant.
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Why the fuck do Nazis care about Jews so fucking much? They'll denounce anything if it even has the tiniest trace of jews they'll go balls up (if they have any) and shit all over it. I don't understand anything about it, as if it's just an impulse, with no fucking reason whatsoever.
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Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari
>inb4 muh revisionism
>inb4 muh cia agents
What does /leftypol/ think of their books, ideas, concepts?
Should we be more schizo?
I am a theorylet but there is an alluring mystique around these two.
I heard that Zizek and Althusser heavily critiqued these guys.
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The Year is 2200. The working class has been defeated and the barbaric mode of production is in full swing. The world is essentially a combination of blade runner in the cities and mad max in the isolated parts as climate change has ruined the planet, causing starvation, mass extinction, and desertification of most places except high mountainous regions, Canada, and Scandanavia, which now control 90% of the worlds arable land and this food supply, other than what is grown in artificial greenhouses for the ultrarich.
You have several options:
1. Cyberpunk - fight the system through trying to do mr robot shit
2. Corporate Goon - work for the megacorps as a hired thug
3. Road Warrior - Mad max car gang shit
4. GTFO - steal whatever, do whatever the fuck you have to do to get the 20 million dollars to pay for a ticket to Alpha Centauri Colony where you can restart your life
5. Kill yourself - you can't handle this world so you check out
6. Scientist - you try to undo the damage using muh science
7. Agitator/Union leader - you lead the other warehouse bezos-slaves in a revolt against the megacorps.
7. Something else (explain)
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Why is the fashoids argument against Marx is: mARx iS jEWisH!!!
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Fellow borgerland anons, what do you guys think the chances are if Biden wins of the average radlib basic socdem ass left leaning person just resigning to a feeling of victory and thinking either they don't need to do anything more or are just gonna stress on electoralism for everything and not stress anything else?
It seems like that's just the constant dance this country has been doing for decades. Im getting the opportunity soon to leave this place and I might just never come back
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Ignoring Reddit, where does bunkerchan rank in forums with the most "communist" curious users?
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Only good thing about corona is that this lib cunt is finally irrelevant. Raising awareness is good and all but you can only go so far without naming capitalism as the cause and proposing some actual solutions. Also her "how dare you" moment was peak cringe.
How do we render the masses woke on climate change lads? Once the people know that porky is the one killing us, nothing will stand in the way of socialism.
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What's actually wrong with 'utopianism' and not being 'dialectical'?
Humanity has already come to the point where it is capable of relegating a vast majority of the labour that has to be done to automation. We already have obtained the tools to build the infrastructures necessary for fulfilling our energy needs in ways that won't destroy the planet. The shit about societies having to phrase through capitalist development to be able to become socialist has become old and irrelevant - in this day, we exist in one interconnected society. It is, unironically, only an issue of distribution and the collective mindset. There's nothing more to it. The only real issue with utopian socialism is that it is opposed to revolutionary violence. Pic unrelated.
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Any other blackanons get kinda discouraged when seeing how other image boards/sites see our race?
Do you just ignore it or does it get to you sometimes.
Examples: pretty much any thread on 4chan even mentioning a black person.
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/MARTYR/ - Our flags are red from the blood of our martyrs.
You realize that literally millions gave their lives for our cause, right? These were, without exception, fucking based
people. Men and women, adults and children, abled and disabled, workers and members of the intelligentsia. Are you prepared to make the same sacrifice they made if it comes to that? Have you understood yet that the establishment of world communism is worth more than your life? (Sorry, it does, and inb4 "muh spooks," you individualist rat!) If it comes to the ultimate sacrifice, comrade, know that you will never be forgotten.
I would like to dedicate this thread for all those lesser known martyrs
of ours, preferably people who have wiki pages, but only in your language, or the like. Naturally, you can post about our "big ones" (Rosa, Gramsci, etc.) but know that people would prefer to learn about lesser known martyrs of ours, in short, comrades would like to learn about new people, lesser known people, people who are not recognized, known, or remembered for what they did for the cause. If you are not from an English speaking country feel encouraged to post about your Turkish/Armenian/Polish/Nigerian/Egyptian/Laotian/Japanese (etc. etc.) role model communist martyr here. We want to know, comrade. We want to know their names, their story, their struggle. We want to remember them and pass on their stories for generations to come. ;_;
Allow me to start.
W.N.B.F. (Will Never Be Forgotten)
Literally nobody knows about this dude, not even in my country, yet he died for us, for you, for me, for our future, for the cause of communism. This poor mother fucker, an orphaned(!) mother fucker of all things, was a teacher by trade. He was enlisted in World War 1 on the side of Austria-Hungary. He was thrown into the Eastern front, to Russia. He was captured and transferred to Krasnoyarsk (Красноярск) POW (Prisoners of War) camp where he mastered the Russian language in a few years and became a full blown communist when he lived through and ultimately was set free by the Russian revolution of 1917.
After his release what did this mother fucker do? Did he wish to return to his home country? FUCK NO, my man, FUCK. NO. This based MOTHER FUCKER started organizing a POW red guard. Imagine! Imagine for a second what devotion and what sacrifice it takes to be in a foreign country as a suddenly liberated POW and instead of fleeing back to home you start organizing AMONG YOUR FELLOW ILL-TREATED, MALNOURISHED, ETC. PRISONERS FROM 10 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES TO FIGHT FOR COMMUNISM!!
In 1918 he joined the Russian Communist Party, and not long after received Soviet citizenship. He then became the executive for the Committee of the Communist Organization of Foreign Workers. (This mother fucker, who only became a communist some few years ago, is already prepared to chair affairs for foreign workers, representing the rest of the world!) He then becomes an editor for two communist magazines aimed at POW (Előre, Fáklya). Not long after he fights in a bloody war to liberate Krasnoyarsk from the whites. >>>He again becomes a prisoner of war<<< this time to the whites, when he is captured in Siberia.
Imagine what this dude must have been thinking!? ("NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN, LMAO!") He then was tortured by the whites, dude. Can you imagine yourself being tortured for being a red? Because it might happen, and I recommend you stay a communist only if you are prepared to entertain the idea of being tortured by the counter-revolutionary guard, asking for your military positions and so on, things of military importance you would rather die than to give them. Are you prepared to give the same sacrifice Ferenc Pataki
did? Are you? Because I am, comrade. I am. I'm ready to die for this shit, comrade. Bring it on, fuckers!
then is sentenced to capital punishment, later lessened to life imprisonment. Upon being transferred on train to another POW camp he and his fellow POW were liberated by the miner(!) partisans of Cheremkhovo (Черемхо́во). Do you understand, comrade? Pataki
gave his life to the cause, and the cause itself gave back. He, who represented workers, was liberated by workers. Our cause is just, comrade, our cause is not a heartless or blind beast like nature is. You give to the cause and due to the fact that you are not alone in giving to the cause, the cause will eventually benefit you-me-him-her-XIR-THON-THAR.
He then becomes a military leader and under his leadership they capture Kolchak's fucking gold train ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_train
- the white's gold supply, lmao). Under the leadership of this MOTHER FUCKER who was a communist for what... 3-4 years now? ... the Red's were able to capture the whites ENTIRE gold reserves worth 651 million gold rubles. Fucking hell, dude. Comrade, if you don't get it yet, let me spell it out for you: becoming a communist is a literal super power. It is a fact
that communists tend accomplish super-human feats. Just sayin'.
as a proven and reliable comrade then gets to called into duty to the Cheka under Dzerzhinsky in 1921. Later he chairs or co-chairs various positions, such as the Soviet Central-Asian Hydropower Plant Commission, Soviet Textile Commission, and the Soviet Cinema Commission, later becoming a rector to one of the university's of the Comintern. Again, comrade. You give to the cause, you get from the cause. And again, comrade, communism is a literal super power. This dude became from a simple teacher to a POW to a red guard to a newspaper editor to again to a POW to a military leader to bureaucrat to a person who contributes to a whole fucking country's direction of cinema then a fucking academic to the Comintern. How the FUCK is this not a superpower? Compare fucking Steve Jobs' life story to this dude's and tell me with a straight face that he is more successful, more "based", more what-fucking-ever.
THIS MOTHER FUCKER than willingly joins World War 2 on the side of the Soviets. He is transferred to current day Slovakia and becomes a partisan leader. He then is transferred to the capital of his home country Hungary, Budapest, where he then holds diplomatic positions, representing the soviets. (Again, add this to the "man-of-all-trades" list, aka. literal superpower.) More than 600 of his partisans were captured in Slovakia, and as an organizer/culprit he was arrested in Budapest in 1944. On August 30. the same year he was sentenced to death and after the Nyilas (Hungarian nazi) takeover he was executed at Sopronkőhida. In 1983, the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union awarded Ferenc Pataki
with a posthumous Red Flag Order. In Chernihiv, Siberia, his memory is preserved by a street name.
I only WISH to be half the comrade Pataki
was. He will never
be forgotten. His life is a testament to the fact that a communist can literally do ANYTHING, dude. Orphaned at youth, became a teacher, then suddenly he enters the soviet-sphere and his life just blossoms into eternity. Makes my heart ache, dude, being stuck in this capitalist hellhole. I want to be as free as Pataki
was. I wish to live a good life, risking my life to the only cause that matters, the cause of communism. ;_;
So tell me, comrade, who is your lesser known
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ITT: most retarded anticommunist "arguments"
For me as someone who lives in a post-Soviet country the most brainlet and anti-reality argument has got to be "COMMUNISM IS ANTI-CULTURE"
My family still has shelves with 100s of books they got in the USSR, real books like obscure classical works or science ones. You CAN'T find most of them in stores anymore because they have been replaced with lowest common denominator schlock like 50 shades of grey or cheap fantasy novels. You have to go to a specialized library to find books you could buy at any bookstore in the USSR. Little surprise that the USSR used to be "the most reading country".
Socialism built and supported theaters, museums, cinemas etc and most importantly it made them available to the entire population instead of a small leisurely elite. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call the USSR the most cultured country in history if the criteria is the total number of people with access to "high culture" like classical music and theater. Don't even get me started on Soviet contributions to the art world like Prokofiev, Tarkovsky etc.
Classical arts were preserved and promoted, folk culture was supported too. The only culture socialism "destroyed" was religion and culture of the ruling classes like decadent balls. That's what reactionaries truly bemoan. It doesn't matter that 99% of the population went from ignorant peasants to educated people who can appreciate intellectual and aesthetic pursuits, a few nobles couldn't have their shitty dances and lavish palaces all to themselves anymore, so CULTURE WAS LITERALLY DESTROYED!!11
You'd have to be completely ignorant of history and reality to say "socialism is anti-culture", or be a lying reactionary who by "culture" means "when you praise Jesus and kill nigs". It's especially annoying to hear this from Russian right-wing zoomers who know nothing but fortnite and low-brow americanized tv entertainment, and somehow blame socialism for this state of affairs instead of capitalist restoration.
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Where has communism gone wrong?
What has gone wrong in every self described "communist" state? Im not talking about the but realcommunismhasnotbeentried.jpg meme,i want to know which sets of patterns are present in these states that we can identify and how to avoid them future wise.
>inb4 b-but capitawism hasnt been any better!
Comparing to mass starvation, i think people prefer getting dicked over by their landlord and boss while atleast having money to spend on mackeydees
>inb4 starts defending murderous regimes
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Will they ever recognize the warcrimes?
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Augusto Cesar Sandino
Was he based? All I know about him was that he fought a guerrilla war against the United States and he was liked by the Comintern, but I want to know more
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Today’s American fascist youth is neither the strapping Aryan jock-patriot nor the skinheaded, jackbooted punk: The fascist millennial/zoomer is a pasty nerd watching shitty meme videos on YouTube, listening to EDM, and harassing black women on Twitter. Self-styled “nerds” are the core youth vanguard of crypto-populist fascist movements. And they are the ones most likely to seize the opportunities presented by the Trump presidency.
Before their emergence as goose-stepping shit-posting scum, however, nerds — those “losers” into video games and comics and coding — had already been increasingly attached to a stereotypical set of political and philosophical beliefs. The nerd probably read Ayn Rand or, at the very least, bought into pseudo-meritocracy and libertarianist “freedom.” From his vantage, social problems are technical ones, merely one “disruption” away from being solved. The sea-steading, millennial-blood-drinking, corporate-sovereignty-advocating tech magnates are their heroes — the quintessential nerd overlords.
The nerd appeared in pop culture in the form of a smart but awkward, always well-meaning white boy irrationally persecuted by his implacable jock antagonists in order to subsume and mystify true social conflict — the ones around race, gender, class, and sexuality that shook the country in the 1960s and ’70s — into a spectacle of white male suffering. This was an effective strategy to sell tickets to white-flight middle-class suburbanites, as it described and mirrored their mostly white communities. With the hollowing out of urban centers, and the drastic poverty in nonwhite communities of the ’80s and ’90s, these suburban whites were virtually the only consumers with enough consistent spending money to garner Hollywood attention.
In the 1980s and ’90s, an obsession with comics, games, and anime might have made this suburban “nerd” a bit of a weirdo. But today, with comic-book franchises keeping Hollywood afloat and video games a $100 billion global industry whose major launches are cultural events, nerd culture is culture. But the nerd myth — outcast, bullied, oppressed and lonely — persists, nowhere more insistently than in the embittered hearts of the little Mussolinis defending nerd-dom.
Of course, there are outcasts who really are intimidated, silenced, and oppressed. They tend to be nonwhite, queer, fat, or disabled — the four groups that are the most consistently and widely bullied in American schools. In other words, the “nerds” who are bullied are being bullied for other things than being a nerd. Straight, able-bodied white boys may also have been bullied for their perceived nerdiness — although the epithets thrown often reveal a perceived lack of masculinity or heterosexuality — but the statistics on bullying do not report “nerdiness” as a common factor in bullying incidents. Nevertheless, the myth of nerd oppression and its associated jock/nerd dichotomy let every slightly socially awkward white boy who likes sci-fi explain away his privilege and lay his ressentiment at the feet of the nearest women and people of color.
The myth of the bullied nerd begins, perhaps, with college fraternities. Fraternities began in America in the mid-19th century, as exclusive social clubs designed to proffer status and provide activity to certain members of the student body. In practice these clubs worked primarily to reproduce masculinity and rape culture and to keep the ruling class tight and friendly. But by the ’60s, fraternities were dying: membership and interest were collapsing nationwide. Campus agitation for peace, Black Power, and feminism had radicalized student populations and diminished the popularity and image of these rich boys’ clubs. Frats sometimes even did battle with campus strikers and protesters, and by 1970, though absolute numbers were up, per capita frat participation was at an all-time low.
Across the ’70s, right-wing graduates and former brothers began a concerted campaign to fund and strengthen fraternities at their alma maters to push back against campus radicalism and growing sexual and racial liberation. Decrepit frat houses were rebuilt, their images rebranded, and frat membership began growing again. As the wave of social upheaval receded in the late ’70s, these well-funded frats were left as a dominant social force on campus, and the hard-partying frat boy became a central object of culture.
This manifested in movies like the 1978 mega-hit National Lampoon’s Animal House, where scrappy, slightly less attractive white freshmen aren’t let into their college’s most prestigious frat, and so join the rowdy, less rich one. Steering clear of frats altogether is not presented as plausible, and the movie stages campus conflict not as a question of social movements or broader societal tensions but as a battle between uptight social climbers and cool pranksters. The massive success of Animal House immediately inspired a number of network sitcoms and a dozen or so b-movie and Hollywood rip-offs.
The threatened, slightly less attractive white male oppressed and opposed by a more mainstream, uptight, wealthy white man became a constant theme in the canonical youth films of ’80s Hollywood. This quickly evolved into the nerd-jock dichotomy, which is central to all of John Hughes’s films, from Sixteen Candles’ geeky uncool Ted who gets in trouble with the jocks at the senior party to The Breakfast Club’s rapey “rebel” John and gun-toting “nerd” Brian, to Weird Science, whose nerd protagonists use their computer skills to build a female sex slave. Both Sixteen Candles and Weird Science are also shockingly racist, with the former’s horrifically stereotyped exchange student Long Duk Dong and the latter’s protagonist winning over the black denizens of a blues club by talking in pseudo-ebonic patois — a blackface accent he keeps up for an unbearable length of screen time. In these films the sympathetic nerd is simultaneously aligned with these racialized subjects while performing a comic racism that reproduces the real social exclusions structuring American society. This move attempts to racialize the nerd, by introducing his position as a new point on the racial hierarchy, one below confident white masculinity but still well above nonwhite people.
The picked-on nerds are central in films across the decade, from Meatballs to The Goonies to Stand by Me to the perennially bullied Marty McFly in the Back to the Future series. The outcast bullied white boy is The Karate Kid and his is The Christmas Story. This uncool kid, whose putative uncoolness never puts into question the audience’s sympathy, is the diegetic object of derision and disgust until, of course, he proves himself to be smarter/funnier/kinder/scrappier etc., at which point he gets the girl — to whom, of course, he was always entitled.
New Hollywood, the “American new wave” movement of the ’60s and 1970s, remains to many film historians the last golden age of serious Hollywood filmmaking. Though often reactionary and appropriative, the films of the period were frequently dealing with real social problems: race, class, gender violence. Though our memories tend to collapse all of the social unrest and revolutionary fervor of “the ’60s” into the actual decade ending in 1969, the films of the ’70s remained exciting and socially conscious partly because social movements were still tearing shit up well into the ’70s. The Stonewall riots kicked off the gay rights movement in the last months of 1969, Kent State and the associated massive student strike was in 1970, while the Weather Underground, Black Liberation Army, George Jackson Brigade and other assorted guerrilla groups were at their height of activity in the first half of the ’70s. At the same time, the financial crises of 1972–73 led to deep recession and poverty across the country: The future was uncertain, mired in conflict and internal strife.
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So... How are MAGAtards going to cope if/when Trump loses the election?
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Why do you hate him so much?
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Can we get a porky propaganda cringe thread?
>"UNION FREE TOGETHER
>At Office Depot, Inc. we believe that our associates are the most important asset of the Company. Office Depot Inc.'s personnel policies and programs are designed to provide a respectful, safe, positive, and inclusive work environment for all associates. Our Open Door Philosophy along with our Core Values ensure each associate enjoys the maximum opportunity for communication, conflict resolution, and job satisfaction. Each associate is given the opportunity to own their personal and professional development and will be provided positive recognition and constructive coaching to enable their growth.
>We prefer to interact with each associate directly rather than through a union, which may know little about our business. The involvement of a third party, such as a union, could lead to the disruption of our business and could hamper our ability to operate effectively in such a competitive marketplace. We are committed to listening to, supporting, and serving the needs of all of our associates through open and direct lines of communication, sound management practices, and positive associate relations.
>We encourage associates who have a suggestion, problem, complaint, or concern to discuss it first with their immediate manager, as most issues can be resolved quickly and efficiently between the associate and their immediate manager. Office Depot, Inc. provide multiple avenues which its associates can bring forth concerns without fear of reprisal.
>Thank you for all you do to support our business. Your commitment to maintain open lines of communication and share your feedback contributes greatly to our success in maintaining our union-free status."
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Could someone help me Hack QAnon?
TL;DR QAnon can be over if a C programmer with plugin development experience would kindly develop a DES/Crypt3 plugin with the 2nd and 3rd characters of the password as the salt.
If you finish the project please make the plugin available via link and post to the thread.
I promise not to crack too many trips and to post QAnon's password for free every time he changes it.
America will thank you.
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Capitalism is inefficient
I know it's unethical ect ect but isn't capitalism wildly inefficient when people are actively incentiviesed to produce products that are cheap for their own profit rather than trying to make something of quality and use?
Like markets seem like a fucking stupid way of meeting human needs.
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welcome to soviet gear.
tonight khrushchev eats corn, stalin jumps rides a train and lenin smokes meth
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What is (not) to be done
I'm writing a ~40 pages long document on "What is not to be Done"...
What's your input, (preferably non-infantile) comrade?
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Turning nazis into communists
This thread is about discussing the means and methods to change the belief system of nazis.
Bring up strategies that perhaps you have tried yourself that seemed to have worked or methods you hypothesize could achieve the goal.
For this thread I'd like the opinions of other fellow communists, anarchists and the opinions of nazis who've changed their mind.
In case actual nazis shitpost in this thread, I'd like you to ignore them as they will likely just derail the thread. Self-moderate.
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The Individual Communist.
What should YOU be like? Sure, communism is a collective endeavour, and all the most important things happen collectively, but as a communist, you should make the best effort possible to be as effective a part of that collective as you can be.
To this end you should aim to be: (In order)
1) Courteous, friendly and tolerant of all different types of working class people. You should be able to engage and communicate with many different types of working class people, particularly those with vastly different beliefs and upbringings to yours. This is the most important feature if you want to organise people. You should be generally respectful of people unless they give you a really good reason not to be.
2) You should be ready to learn. Very few communists have any good experience of effectively organising people at all. Chances are, you don't know what you are doing, LISTEN TO PEOPLE who know what they are doing, and be willing to take orders. None of this is about you, your whims, or what you feel like, this is about getting a job done.
3) You should be dedicated and you should have discipline. You should yourself be well organised, be punctual, if you say you are going to do something, do it. If you can volunteer for a task, volunteer for it. If you can't, don't. Can't means "there is no possible way" rather than "I don't feel like it I would rather game that day" - unless its like your one day off a week or something, everyone needs a day off. If you call yourself a communist and talk all the red armies and gulags but you cry about the need for structure and discipline you need to have a long look at yourself.
4) You need to have a good knowledge of socialist history and current events. While this is not essential, it is extremely useful for learning tactical and historical lessons. To a lesser extent, it will help to know Marxist economic theory. Forget about trying to grandstand with how much theory you know, nobody cares and everyone thinks you're a cunt, trust me. However, you should be, as much as possible, absorbing as much socialist history and theory as you can. Not only absorbing, but engaging with critically.
5) You should be physically fit and presentable. This is not just for fighting muh fash, this is to teach yourself personal discipline. It is also healthy and exercise makes you smarter. Fact, look it up. As well as this, people are more trusting of people who are physically impressive, and it will make you more confident for organising people. On top of that, yes, we should expect physicality in the revolution and prepare for it. You should also be eating a healthy diet and aim to cut down drug and alcohol use to a minimum if not entirely get rid of it.
According to me, these are the 5 key things you need to be.
Problem? Well, you're a slovenly little radlib then.
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>ML bait threads and posts which enforce the myth that MLs are red totalitarian communazis
>anarchist bait threads and posts which enforce the myth that anarchists are sectarian anticommunist liberals
>/pol/ using this same tired tactic for years thinking /leftypol/ hasn't caught on years ago
>newfags fall for it anyway despite countless examples of ML-anarchist unity in various modern conflicts
Please lurk just a little more, amigos.
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How would a communist germany changed WW2?
What if the KPD defeated the NSDAP?
How could they have done it, should they have coalitioned with bourgeoisie-parties to win time?
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Computing in the Socialist States
How Computing differed, if at all from the Western World? I heard that from the 80s onwards, that they began pirating Western ones, is that propaganda or has some merit? Has China, particularly in Mao's Era, developed anything in particular in the same way the Soviet Union did?
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This is Luis Arce Catacora, Bolivia's new president and one of the greatest economists of the 21st century
Say something nice about him
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Wagie life sucks.
Went for a a full time position at my job so I can actually be in a position to live somewhat comfortably but I didn't get it partly because of a depressive episode I've had reventlu so now I've got to find a seccond job to wage cuck myself for to keep the lights on.
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Well? Have you read it /leftypol/?
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Sudden influx of low-effort and bait threads - possibly covert raid
Let's start with these three simulacra of threads:
(Same OP, same content, same pic.)
(Same OP, same content, same pic.)
(Same OP, same content, same pic.)
Bad faith, bait, zero content or context, blanket statement threads, generally anti-tankie/USSR, etc.:
(notice immediate bump, most likely by OP)*
(notice immediate bump, most likely by OP)*
(notice immediate bump, most likely by OP)*
"A is right B is wrong" without any actual further explanations, presentations of the sides, the contending ideas is not even a proper thread. It's just baiting for (you)s.
*Also notice that OP abandons the thread immediately when someone questions him, asks for source, counters him. It's just creating threads so that other, much better threads can die for this shit.
All of these are "questions that don't deserve their own thread" types of threads:
(There's more, but I can't be even botherered.)
Notice that in a lot of these threads users immediately point out this is zero effort bait. If someone from our camp is doing this we are fucking ourselves (and, to be frank, the repeating pattern leaves me to believe this is organized). If the mods don't stop this shit we are fucking ourselves. If this is /pol/ then this is next level from them.
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Thoughts on the AfheBunga Bunga Podcast?
It seems like pretty good shit and far more rigorous than any other political podcast I've checked out, while still retaining some humor.
I recently listened to Aufhebunga Bunga episode 45 "Liberalism: A Counter-Podcast" and they were using the sacred/profane dichotomy in reference to liberalism. I've never seen this used in that way before. Is that something they just made up for the episode or is there actual writing using these terms in such a way?
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On the Karen Question
What are /leftypol/'s thoughts on the Karen National Liberation Front, the Karen National Union, and the general state of karen nationalism and separatism in Myanmar?
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Could someone give a basic rundown on dialectical materialism?
It seems to be one of the most important concepts in Marxist, and, more broadly, socialist, thought. I think I have a vague understanding of it, but I feel like it is not quite right. My impression of it is that it claims the environment people live in, particularly their social relations (with employers, families, governments, etc.), are what drive history and politics. This is supposed to be in opposition to an earlier philosophy known as idealism, which claimed that history and politics are driven by ideas.
At any rate, could someone give a basic explanation of what dialectical materialism is? Avoid being too abstract if you can.
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Xinjiang thread #2000000
I finally got around to see actual footage of some of the re-education centers as shown by state-owned propaganda outlet BBC from Great Britain's (a country well known for massacring people) Tory regime. It... just looks like a vocational school. Strict, but emphasis on actually training people. Compared with how malcontents are treated in every other country it does not seem unreasonable at all. Why do some of you still get pissy about this obvious manufactured propaganda?
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Postmodernity is literally dying
Weirdly, this thread is going to be about art, to be more specific paintings, and even more weirdly, George Orwell as well.
So let's go back in time to the first decades of the 20th century, wherein """somehow""" fascism emerged. I put tri-quotes around "somehow" because we exactly know today how that pest emerged and became dominant. Capitalism was in crisis, d'oh, and it created for itself an escape-route. Also, it must be said, that under the colonial routine they had (you know, putting tens of thousands into concentration camps in Africa, lol) had eventually trickled back onto their own population control schemes, as far as 'political techné' goes.
What is most interesting about this phenomenon (at least to me, or, at least for this thread's duration) is what kind of ideology, more specifically, artistic thrust followed and gave support to it?! Most of you must have heard about the art movement "futurism," which lasted exactly as long as European fascism lasted. If you haven't heart about it, then [wiki:]
>Futurism emphasized speed, technology, youth, violence, and objects[.]
Now I would like to focus your attention to the fact that this artistic outlook completely leaves behind one thing... You know, persons? Yes, yes, it does in fact inserts the "youth" but what the fuck does the "youth" means, when you are a fascist, besides an idealized and enforceably retarded stratum of the population? Moreover, the very image of the youth in fascism, IMO, is just a modern version of ancient Greek homo-eroticism, wherein they deny even their obvious ideological imperative to "fuck 'em" and instead idolize them.
Now compare "futurism" under Mussolini to "socialist realism" under Stalin. Surprise, surprise, what do we find with Stalin? THE central subject is always the worker, the liberated peasant, the party apparatchik, the liberated women, etc. etc. who »does shit, who builds shit, who governs shit,« right?
In terms of 'partitioning' agency, futurism DENIES that agency even exists (the very purpose of including "the youth" is to pretend that the "human element is present," but we instinctively know that "the child" is not exactly an agent), and Stalinist social realism actually attributes agency to the aforementioned (and incomplete) categories.
Now let me cut some corners here, and showcase my agenda. I'm writing this OP because I think I have a good idea about what 21st century fascism will rely on ideologically, in terms of artistic support. It's called "precisionism," mate. (Do a google image search at this point, if I may ask you!)
Precisionism is what? It is three things, in essence:
1) A completely a-subjective (agency-denying, or -missing) portrayal of the production process. There are literally no workers in these paintings, merely factories which "work" by themselves - magically. Not even the image of the "child" or "youth" is inserted. Understand the following: as far as the progression of capitalism goes (from "free market" to "colonial" to "imperialist" to [culturally, at least] late stage/post-modern) "precisionism" perfectly captures the zeitgeist in several senses. First, and most blatantly, it is a "First world" style. It means, "shit, idk how, but I ordered it on Amazon and it arrived at my doorstep!" but also, "Santa and his 'little helpers' [read: proletariat] work in mysterious ways!" Precisionism is a literal method to hide away the actual production process and the relations of production by EMPHASIZING the means of production as such. Precisionism LITERALLY portrays a landscape of post-genocide, where there are only machines but no machine-operators.
2) Precisionism has an ideological function, namely, CLASS function and CHARACTER. Imagine, for a second, being a porky, and collecting these paintings. What's the allure? In terms of ideology, "precisionism" is the closest you can get to actual SOCIALIST REALISM without actually portraying the said agents (workers, etc.)! It IS edgy, dudes. It IS. Do you know what "risqué" is, my friend? Risqué is being as closed to a social taboo as close someone can get. But this is "risqué" to whom, exactly? Not to the workers themselves, who constitute approx. 90% of the human population, no! It's "risqué" to the bourgeois art collectors and so on. These mother fuckers created a style/genre that celebrates production, leaves aside the workers, and is realistic -- without being, ofc, social realist.
3) "It's just a factory, bruh! Stop overthinking it, brah!" - t. moron. I actually had a conversation with a precisionist painter who showed me his shit (oeuvre, repertoire) in a pub, and he became super defensive about his work when I questioned him. I just asked a simple question: "Good, good, the [painting] technique is excellent, but where are the workers?" and he mumbled some shit about how "the style didn't PERMIT it," lmao. All I want to say under this third point of mine is that fucking "precisionist" painters already absorbed the ideology contained in my previous points (1&2). They do not care or want to know about you dirty proles! You see, dirty prole, "the style FORBIDS it!" - and that is all a supposed artist needs for self-justification. My point here: there is a ready [artist] base for the propagation of a fascist regime -- by which I do not mean when libs call Trump or Orbán a "fascist". I mean a literal fascist regime Take note, comrades, capitalism in crisis has already created the conditions for its ideological/artistic support. Ideology works in weird ways, note this as well, comrade, and these painters literally don't know what the fuck they are actually doing!
I merely gave you a slice of "pomo dying" but you must permit me here to again "cut a long story short" (I'm reaching the genius 8192 "Max message length" here rapidly, set by our mods, PBUH).
Yes, pomo is dying. Is this news to ya'? None of the masses actually appreciates "pomo". D'uh. But as a Marxist you MUST know that this isn't due to "preference" but to an underlying, deeper crisis, noticed by millions in the superstructure.
Today I had the chance to talk to my next-door neighbor who also happens to be... a painter. He told me -- and I didn't even ask! -- that "Post-modernism is dying!" Comrade, do you understand what that really means? Do you understand what that really entails? Po-mo has been the cultural expression (superstructure, for Marxists) for decades. We are witnessing a gigantic crash, a fail, a stopgap, a regression in late-stage capitalism's course.
Comrades, I'd like to conclude ("Max message length: 6630/8192") with this message. Marx, Lenin, and Benjamin should be complemented with the following statement: each and every mode of production first shows signs of degradation in the superstructure. But I think Hegel already talked about this shit.
As for our (probable) nu-fascist painters, the "precisionists?" I'll leave you OP-pic related. It's a Pink Floyd album, called animals. Interestingly, these mother fuckers, predating this trend (from Futurism to Precisionism) they made a cover artwork. They LITERALLY took a "precisionist" picture (a mere factory, without workers and all those nasty things) AND inserted a fucking piglet, a fucking porky into it!
Yes, comrades, a fucking weed smoking hippy-dippy band from the seventies foresaw all of this shit I'm talking about, and they had an answer: it's picrel.
Let's read the official wiki about the album, shall we:
>Loosely based on George Orwell's political fable Animal Farm, the album's lyrics describe various classes in society as different kinds of animals: the predatory dogs, the despotic ruthless pigs, and the "mindless and unquestioning herd" of sheep. Whereas the novella focuses on Stalinism, the album is a critique of capitalism and differs again in that the sheep eventually rise up to overpower the dogs.
These fuckers LITERALLY turned Orwell's horseshit upon its head and weaponized it against capitalism.
In any case, this is what you should do whenever you see a "totally not fascist" precisionist painting: just insert a piglet, a porky, etc. into it. A sticker will do.
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What is to be done in America?
What’s at the core of American ideals are enlightenment idea such as liberty and freedom. And as Marx said, revolutions are embedded with elements of the society that preceded it.
They deeply mistrust the government, and they, somewhat justifiably, hate Communism as a form of totalitarian governance under Stalin, North Korea, etc
>Abstinence, not rejection, of non-marxist ideas such as social justice that alienate average workers and lead them astray to reactionary politics.
>Maybe some form of constitutional socialism - guaranteeing some level of individual liberty by inscribing them into the rule of law.
>Guarantee of democracy. I find it somewhat conflicting with the results of democratic centralism, but we should at least strive to completely achieve party democracy
>2A rights are at the core of American conservatism, and they believe we’ll take their guns away as soon as revolution is achieved. We must guarantee it unlike what USSR had done, and use Hoxha as an example.
>Property rights - learn to separate and emphasize the difference between personal and private.
In any sense, I think it’s somewhat necessary to appeal with ideals such as liberty, democracy, and freedom, regardless of whether they are bourgeois in their current form. Point out how it’s flawed under our current government, and give them the impression that the socialist revolution will not give away to something that is worse and “tyrannical”
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勿谓言之不预也。Don't say we didn't warn you.
China appears to be threatening Taiwan in the People's Daily. Notably, the phrase 勿谓言之不预也 or, "Don't say we didn't warn you" is used. The exact phrase 勿谓言之不预也 was used only three times previously since the establishment of the People's Republic: 1962, 1967, and 1978 just prior to the Sino-Indian war, Sino-Soviet conflict, and Sino-Vietnam war.
What are the possible outcomes here? It is hard to imagine China desiring reunification by military conquest for myriad reasons. But they could not be clearer in terms of the consequences should Taiwan persist with its independence movement.
English translation of an excerpt:
The general trend of history is great; those who follow it will prosper, and those who go against it will perish. General Secretary Xi Jinping profoundly pointed out that we are willing to create a broad space for peaceful reunification, but we will never leave any space for various forms of "Taiwan independence" separatist activities. We do not promise to abandon the use of force and retain the option of taking all necessary measures. We are aimed at the interference of external forces and the very small number of "Taiwan independence" separatists and their separatist activities. We are by no means aimed at compatriots in Taiwan. We are willing to share peace with the broad masses of Taiwan compatriots with the utmost sincerity and seek common development. However, we will also severely punish the various retrogrades of the separatist forces that seek "independence" to "independence" and undermine peace.
We advise Taiwan’s intelligence agencies not to be kidnapped by the "Taiwan Independence" "Chariot of the End". The run of this "Chariot of the End" has only one end, that is, torn apart and ruined. The Tsai Ing-wen authorities only have the private interests of their own political party, and they completely disregard the interests and well-being of compatriots on both sides of the strait, let alone the life and death of frontline intelligence personnel. It is hoped that Taiwan’s intelligence agency can see the righteousness of the nation and the right path of history, and immediately stop intelligence infiltration and sabotage activities on the mainland of the motherland. In particular, it should not continue to serve as the eagle dog and running dog of the Tsai Ing-wen authorities, endorse the separatist forces of "Taiwan independence" and continue to sell to the United States and the West. National sovereignty and the core interests of the Chinese nation. Otherwise, our national security organs have firm will, full confidence, and sufficient ability to resolutely crack down and severely punish any infiltration and sabotage activities by Taiwan’s intelligence agencies.
We would like to tell the diehards in Taiwan’s intelligence and governance departments who adhere to the stance of "Taiwan independence" that there is only one dead end when playing with fire and self-immolation. Our national security organs will resolutely use anti-secession laws, anti-espionage laws and other legal weapons to keep a close eye on diehard elements who continue to engage in "Taiwan independence" separatist activities that endanger the national security and interests of the motherland. , Chasing after hard work, one chasing to the end. The green hills can't cover it, after all, it flows eastward. I hope these diehards will recognize the situation as soon as possible, close their hands as soon as possible, turn their heads back to the shore, and don't want to be attached to the poor city, wandering astray, and looking for a dead end. Don't say it is unpredictable.
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Nigeria is in a battle with itself currently. The Islamic North is now fighting with the Christian South. Protesters in Lagos have been shot by police and being brutalized on the streets.
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In late September the Nordic Resistance Movement was banned in Finland by the Supreme court. Few weeks later, in early October, the same illegal Nazi group held a demonstration and police didn't do anything to stop them. The pigs just watched them from 20 meters away. Meanwhile there was another peaceful demonstration by Extinction Rebellion (mostly underage teenage girls) and the police used pepper spray on them and dragged them to cop cars and locked them up for a day.
All this happened while we have a Social Democratic government in Finland. We have the Socdems, the Left Alliance and the Green League in power. The police and the Nazis do what they want. The Socdems have no rule over them. Remember this when you think Social Democracy will help us to bring Communism.
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‘One of the most impressive phenomena in modern Russia’: Communist leader Zyuganov asks Kremlin to listen to Khabarovsk protesters
Writing on Twitter, four-time presidential candidate Gennady Zyuganov called the demonstrations “one of the most impressive phenomena in modern Russia,” and asked the Kremlin to listen to the concerns of the aggrieved and “take the path of development and progress.”
Uruguay: Leftist Leader 'Pepe' Mujica Retires From Politics
He will be replaced in the Senate by the Broad Front politician Alejandro Sanchez, who was also a member of the National Liberation Movement-Tupamaros (MLN-T).
Germany: SPD's Olaf Scholz promises police racism study
Finance Minister Olaf Scholz said a study on racism among Germany's police "should have been commissioned long ago." He plans to work with Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, who has previously rejected such a study.
Eric Abetz refuses to apologise for demanding Chinese-Australians denounce Communist party
A conservative Australian senator has refused to apologise after he caused a storm of outrage by demanding three Chinese-Australians publicly and unconditionally condemn “the Chinese Communist party dictatorship”.
Forest fires weaken Portugal’s government
Portuguese Prime Minister António Costa is facing a storm of criticism over the handling of a spate of deadly forest fires that claimed the lives of more than 40 people this week.
Colombia: Duque Leaves Bogota to Avoid Meeting With Social Minga
Colombia's President Ivan Duque Monday night urgently left Bogota to avoid a meeting with the Indigenous Minga that arrived in the capital from the Cauca Department on Sunday.
Azeri forces accused of beheading Armenian soldier
The shocking execution follows the emergence of video footage that appears to show jihadist groups wearing Azeri military uniforms on the front line of the conflict.
France will dissolve pro-Hamas Muslim group, as Islamist crackdown continues – Macron
French President Emmanuel Macron has said that a Hamas-linked Muslim group connected with the beheading of a teacher in Paris will be disbanded. Macron also promised to take “concrete actions” against radical Islamist terrorism.
Nearly 2,000 inmates escape in attacks on Nigeria prisons
Nigerian authorities said Tuesday that nearly 2,000 inmates had broken out of jail after crowds attacked two prisons, while officials announced a 24-hour curfew in the megacity of Lagos in an attempt to quell the unrest stemming from two weeks of protests against police brutality.
Polish court ruling to determine fate of human rights office
Poland’s constitutional court is considering a ruling that will determine the fate of one of the last state bodies that has kept its independence from the populist right-wing government.
Trump: U.S. to remove Sudan from state terrorism sponsors list after payment to victims
President Donald Trump announced on Monday the United States would remove Sudan from its list of state sponsors of terrorism as soon as Khartoum sets aside the $335 million it has agreed to pay to American victims of militant attacks and their families.
U.S., Russia Edge Back Towards Talks on Nuclear Arms Pact
U.S. officials said they were ready to meet Russian diplomats as soon as possible, shortly after Moscow stated it could compromise on an American demand.
Millennials get little satisfaction from democracy - Cambridge study
Young people are less satisfied with democracy and more disillusioned than at any other time in the past century, especially in Europe, North America, Africa and Australia, a study by the University of Cambridge has found.
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For what purpose?
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Why did China want to crush the Vietnamese Revolution?
and why did China back the Khmer Rouge? So much for left unity lmao
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Bunkerchan under attack from Thailand Monarchy and Allies
This weekend's DDOS attack has been growing and it's becoming known that they're related to the protests in Thailand. The attacks that started from Thailand have come to include allies of the monarchy: China, Germany, and the United States.
Main Protest Thread >>1004988
Southeast Asia General >>1012123
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Every existing socialist state has become revisionism and reverted to capitalism. How do we stop this from happening?
Hard mode: you can't say "material conditions" as an excuse
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Hinterlands: The gallery
In this thread we unmask the cruelty and decay of the american empire.
1. pick an american state and look up the poorest cities in it
2. google street view
3. report back here
Pictured: Bastrop, louisiana.
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Hoxha appreciation thread
In this thread we appreciate Hoxha. Death to revisionism!
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Has anybody actually noticed that it seems like conservative people are more likely to "cancel" something because that media doesn't exactly have the political messages that they would want the author of the media that they enjoyed to have? Like the Disco Elysium getting shat on in /vrpg/ a lot when /v/ used to like that game when it turned out that Marxists created that game kind of tipped me off, but in various kinds of gaming discords (cringe I know) with a strong right-wing presence (Such as the discord server for Underrail) there has been quite a few of the conservative posters who said that if the game dev became an "SJW" they would just stop playing the game and trash his game. This attitude seems to actually be the sort of thing that they would do. Look at how much FNV is shat on because of the generally anti-right-wing themes it has, despite the fact that it's a fairly well liked game outside of that circle.
I think that outside of Hairy Potter, there seems to be a lot more apologia about the media that liberals consume from conservative authors (such as the works of HP lovecraft and the author to Ender's Game for example). They don't exactly try to say that the MEDIA ITSELF is bad just because the author might have political views that they disagreed with.
Maybe you haven't noticed this trend, maybe you did but I'm certain that "cancel culture" isn't just something that snooty liberals have in their pockets, in fact I don't even remember a time when they actually managed to "cancel" anything really. Maybe there is something racist the general public found to be distasteful but...whatever.
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Unpopular opinion thread because I don't see any
I'll start: people can be Marxist without reading theory, not everyone has time to obsessively read over every book with the word communism (and I read theory)
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"Exterminating the peoples of the Americas was a necessary and historically progressive action :)"n
Why the fuck does this position exist when it's easy to just...not throw your full backing and support behind arguably the greatest crime committed by the bourgeoisie and their Mercantilist forebears?
>Ah yes, history happened this way which is why we must accept it was necessary
<Don't worry, comrade, you just happen to have been the blood sacrifice necessary so that capitalism could rule the world and we could try and utterly fail to defeat it anyway
Why is it that exterminating the indigenous populace of the Americas was "historically progressive" but the Holocaust and Second World War were not? After all, the Holocaust made fascism and genocide illegitimate in the eyes of most and the Second World War spread communism further than anything else ever had. Whereas the extermination of indigenous Americans was one of the primary inspirations for the Holocaust. If the deaths of the native Americans were justified so that the bourgeoisie would get the grand opportunity to destroy Life on Earth (fuck you, faggot, Marx didn't foresee climate change, sucks to suck, turns out porkies didnt "progress" shit); why wasn't WWII 100% justified, based, and redpilled if it spread communism far and wide?
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China is BASED now
ALRIGHT I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT MODERN DAY CHINA. POGGERS LEEETS GOOOOO
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attention all proud bunkerchanites
This is an old fag speaking as your commissar.
This """""'''war"""""""""" have been going on for too long now. Just today alone we got an infuriating influx of shitposts and tons of baits ,low effort posts and low effort posts hidden as baits and they all look too stupid to be coming from a legit poster.
It seems to me at least that our rivals, the annoying menace in the infamous shithole that i don't need to name did not stop after the first raid,and they can't for we have hurt them in the most important thing they have (thier feelings)now they are still raiding but with another plan one that include larping and covertly starting infightings between us,this must not be allowed to stand and someone must do somthing about it so that this board can go back to being coherent and proud.
And so i call for all of you to propose a solution for these gestapo faggots,not just reporting and shutting down the site no im asking for better ideas as it is your duty since the day this board got created along with /GET/
As for the larping faggots(if you ever made it reading as you are allergic to words) think about what you're doing, you are shitposting,and you do it for free,what are you a reverse jannie?
If you have any self awarness you will stop,but im not gonna be suprised if you didn't,your hate for this world is too big and you need to spread everywhere as it makes you get attention after all
One image made you come here(lmao)
LONG LIVE /LEFTYPOL/!
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Culture and Socialism
The far right claims that only they can save European culture. Correct me if I'm not wrong, but is it not capitalism that is the cause of decline of culture?
The works of the Frankfurt school make it pretty clear - Capitalism produces a culture industry that dissolves any previous culture in favour of culture designed to pacify the people. Just look at how much degenerate burger culture as spread through the world - Destroying native culture and traditions across the globe - Europe, Asia, Africa, South America.
Another example would be the post soviet states, again, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's in post communist countries where culture seems to flourish the greatest.
Discuss, I'm pretty new on this subject.
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Left criticism of the USSR & Eastern Bloc
Occasional lurker here:
Where did they fuck up, what can we learn from them, what can we do better? Occasionally I'll see a mention here or there on this board (or elsewhere) of something retarded that Stalin or Lenin did, and generally that the USSR post Stalin was on the track to it's eventual bureaucratic hellscape that inevitably lead to it's stagnation. But I've never seen anyone go into details. So just throw all of it at me, I want to learn what mistakes people think were made so I can use that as a jumping off point for my own research.
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>There's no Peace to be found anywhere. And so we can only keep on hoping... Hoping for the illusion we call peace.
Was she right?
is peace just a bullshit unobtainable concept?
sorry if this belongs on games this thread is more for the discussion of the concept of peace and I just liked this quote from PW
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I've been reading more about Morales and watch the following interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hEwE64-kUQ&ab_channel=TheIntercept
Holy shit, I never knew someone this based was leading Bolivia. Amazing how I did not hear a single thing about him until the coup despite all the amazing progress he has made in Bolivia. Hopefully he's restored to power again soon. What does /leftypol/ think of Morales?
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Former Black Panther says a horizontal organization is better
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/leftybritpol/ - TIER 3 TARQUINISM edition
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Thoughts on worker cooperatives?
Sometimes people ask me "You know, this socialism you're talking about sounds nice and all, but can you point to any instance where it's actually worked in practice?" and I honestly sometimes have trouble giving them a good answer. However, I have found that worker cooperatives are a good example of socialism in action. Here's some facts about worker coops:
>According to an analysis of all businesses in Uruguay between 1997–2009, worker cooperatives have a 29% smaller chance of closure after controlling for variables such as industry. In Italy, worker owned cooperatives that have been created by workers buying a business when it's facing a closure or put up to sale have a 3 year survival rate of 87%, compared to 48% of all Italian businesses. A 2012 study of Spanish and French worker cooperatives found that they “have been more resilient than conventional enterprises during the economic crisis." In France, the three year survival rate of worker cooperatives is 80%-90%, compared to the 66% overall survival rate for all businesses. During the 2008 economic crisis, the number of workers in worker owned cooperatives in France increased by 4.2%, while employment in other businesses decreased by 0.7%.
> 2006 study found that wages on co-ops pay in Italy were 15 to 16 percent lower than those that capitalist firms paid on average, and were more volatile, while employment was more stable. After controlling for variables, such as schooling, age, gender, occupation, industry, location, firm-size, user cost of capital, fixed costs, and deviations in its real sales, this changed to 14 percent. The authors suggest this is due to worker cooperatives being more likely than capitalist firms to cut wages instead of laying off employees during periods of economic difficulty. A study looking at all firms in Uruguay concluded that when controlling for variables such as industry, firm size, gender, age and tenure, workers employed in a worker-managed firm earn 3 percent higher wages compared with similar workers employed in the conventional firms. However, this wage premium declines significantly with increasing pay and becomes negative for top earners. According to research by Virginie Perotin, which looked at two decades worth of international data, the tendency for greater wage flexibility and employment stability helps explain why some research observes higher and others lower pay in worker cooperatives relative to conventional businesses. A study by The Democracy Collaborative found that in the US, worker cooperatives can increase worker incomes by 70 to 80 percent.
>According to Virginie Perotin's research which looked at two decades worth of international data, worker cooperatives are more productive than conventional businesses. Another 1987 study of worker cooperatives in Italy, the UK, and France found “positive” relationships with productivity. It also found that worker cooperatives do not become less productive as they get larger. A 1995 study of worker cooperatives in the timber industry in Washington, USA found that “co-ops are more efficient than the principal conventional firms by between 6 and 14 percent”.
>According to a study drawing on a questionnaire from the population of the Italian province of Trento, worker cooperatives are the only form of enterprise that fosters social trust between employees. A survey conducted in Seoul suggests that in conventional firms, employees become less committed to their job as their work becomes more demanding; however, this was not the case in worker cooperatives. In the US, home health aides in worker cooperatives were significantly more satisfied with their jobs than in other agencies. One 1995 study from the US also indicates that “employees who embrace an increased influence and participation in workplace decisions also reported greater job satisfaction” and a 2011 study in France found that worker-owned businesses “had a positive effect on workers’ job satisfaction.” One 2019 study indicates that “the impact on the happiness workers is generally positive”. A 2012 study of three Italian towns of similar demographics, income, and geography found that the town with the most worker cooperatives had:
>Better mental and physical health, and longer lives, with fewer strokes and heart attacks.
>Children were less likely to skip school and skipped school for shorter periods of time.
>Less crime, including less domestic violence and greater feelings of safety.
>Higher rates of ‘social participation’ (joining clubs and charities; giving blood; voting).
>Perception of a more positive society, more supportive personal networks, and more trust in the government.[a]
<TL;DR: Research has shown that worker coops are more less likely to fail, provide more stable employment, have less pay inequality, are just as if not more productive, and produce better worker well-being than private firms.
So what do you think of worker cooperatives? Do you think they are a goal leftists should strive for, at least short-term? Do you think labor unions should seek to turn their workplaces into cooperatives?
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USSR was socialist
Leftcoms always peddle the same crap about USSR but rarely seem to actually respond to rebuttals. So instead of waiting for the next "Heh, does anyone else commodity production" thread, how about we turn the argument around.
USSR was socialist
If you don't believe so, then respond to this:
<Commodity production (CP from here on) existed in such a marginal form that it can practically be ignored.
It is true that CP did exist. It was most prevalent in the Stalin era, when the collective farms were still dominant over state farms and artels (coop industries) still existed. However by the 1960's, the later were squashed and the former were declining year by year. Even if you are extremely strict about your definition of socialism, then it is still undeniable that USSR at worst was rapidly moving towards it.
<All other goods apart from the agri-produce of collective farms was distributed for consumption
Currency indeed existed, but it did not act as traditional money. Consumption was purely dictated by production. As all those who lived in USSR can attest, the problem was never that you couldn't afford something, but that there was a shortage of it. Currency was there only to act as a measure of accounting. Even though it didn't act 1 to 1 as the Marx's labour tokens, it acted in mostly the same way. Exchangeability of rubles can be criticized, but again, having the currency was not a guarantee of getting goods as it is under capitalism.
<Participation in global traded is hardly CP
Trading should be treated not as a capitalistic practice, but as an alternative way of producing needed goods. USSR wasn't fully self-sustainable, thus it needed to get some goods from import. And these goods later would be distributed for consumption. Hence, once abstracted, the production of trading goods is merely a production method for said goods.
USSR was not in a place where it could have fought global capitalism head on. To do so would have been suicide. The best strategy would have been to wait until the global market system starts to collapse. All USSR really had to do was hold itself together. Also, there is no reason why its no longer socialism if the rest of the world isn't such as well. Also arguably USSR was too internationalist. It might have been safer for it to stay out of international revolutionary affairs more in order to stay on better terms with the US.
<Bureaucrats as a ruling class / reactionary element
Simply not true. While they did have slightly superior life quality, its hardly the same as with capitalists. Not to mention that the economic relation is completely different - in no way did the bureaucrat extract surplus value for their own gain. Also, up until the "democratic" reforms in the 1985 onward, there practically were no reactionaries in power, as even the reformers, misguided as they were, still had the proletariat interests in mind.
<Labour-time accounting was impossible for the time and profitability logic was justified
While this was definitely a flaw of the USSR, it was simply unavoidable. The economy was too large and too complex for the time to properly calculate real labour costs. Automation was a costly long-term idea that was simply too risky to try in 1960's. The Liberman reform on the other hand, while ideologically dubious, was the best practical solution for the time. Also, by the 1980's automation was coming back as a possibility, and, if Andropov didn't die, really could have become reality. Thus it is wrong to discard USSR for using pragmatic solutions to real problems, especially when there really wasn't any good alternative.
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>ruled for 25 years over a territory of 22,402,200 km2
>population under his rule: 150million in 1927 - 196million before WW2
>average population number under his rule: 173 000 000
>3.3 million excess deaths under his rule (executions, gulags, etc. not counting the holo and the domor)
>math: 173,000,000 / 3,300,000 = 52.42
Every 52th citizen died under Stalin.
>Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths (TATAED - a term I just made up, measured in metric units of "horror")
>math: (every citizen dieded + time) * horror constant [100,000] / territory = (25+52) * 100,000 / 22,402,200 = 0.3437
TATAED: 0.34 horror, or 34 centihorror
>(un)ruled for 3 whole years over a territory of 32,108 km2
>average population under their (un)rule: 2.8million
>excess deaths (executions, gulags, etc.) between 38000 and 72344, average: 55000
>math: 2,800,000 / 55,000 = 50.9
Every 51th citizen died under anarchism.
>Time And Territory Adjusted Excess Deaths: (3+51)*100000/32,108 = 168.1823
TATAED: 168.18 horror, or 1.6 hectohorror
>Stalin TATAED / Catalan TATAED = 168.18 / 0.34 = 494.64
QED: Anarchist Catalonia was 495 times more horrific than Stalin's USSR.
BRB, I'm off to measure the Workers Sent to Space (WS2S) to population ratio...
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Name me egoist philosophers that are downright cruel.
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is it possible
Can you be a marxist-leninist-maoist-leftcommunist-dengist but hate marx, lenin, mao, bordiga, and deng?
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Hi everyone. I am a /pol/ user.
I am curious about learning more about your ideology.
Try to convince me to see as you see, please. Show me your redpills.
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Question for Anarchists that hate soldiers and veterans: How do you intend to overthrow Capitalism without military support?
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How much user information does Facebook give to governments around the world?
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Left analysis of Neoconservatism
What was wrong with those people? Reading material/theory welcome
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Is it just me...
Is it just me or is /pol/ falling apart into a cesspool of complete hatred and stupidity. They fight amongst themselves if they should like Ben Shapiro or not because he's jewish, they can't decide what religion Hitler was, and they can't figure out if Trump's a jewish got or not.
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I see a lot of people are currently celebrating in advance the victory of MAS. However it's still not assured. This is the link to the live vote count. You can also check turnouts of individual zones. In order to win first round MAS requires either:
- 50% of all votes plus one vote.
- In case they don't reach 50%, they must be 10 points above the closest candidate.
Pic related is what it shows at the time of writing this.
- Foreign vote is heavily pro-MAS. Most countries show high support for either CC or CREEMOS, but Argentina has a ridiculously high support for MAS. Bolivians in Argentina make over 60% of the foreign MAS vote.
- La Paz has a considerable amount of MAS supporters and as of now only 14,96% of the votes have been counted. Coupled with its massive population in comparison to other departments, this region might show very good numbers for MAS when its votes are counted.
- Usually the first votes to be counted are those in more urbanized areas. Rural and far away areas will probably come later in the count.
A prediction I make is that it's very likely for MAS to win first round.
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What even is imperialism? Is there any diffrence to realpolitic besides that the target is extremely weak?
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Bolivia: Political Figures Acknowledge Arce's Victory In The Polls
Citizens Community Alliance (CCA) presidential candidate Carlos Mesa acknowledged the victory of the Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) and said that "the difference between the first candidate and the CCA is wide and it is up to us who believe in democracy to recognize that there has been a winner in this election.”
COVID-19: PLO leader Saeb Erekat in ‘critical’ condition
Prominent Palestinian leader Saeb Erekat is in a critical condition and his health has deteriorated as he undergoes treatment for COVID-19-related complications.Erekat, 65, was moved from his home in the occupied West Bank city of Jericho to Jerusalem’s Hadassah hospital on Sunday.
Philippine Communist Leadership Orders Guerrillas to Go After Chinese Firms
The outlawed Philippine communist party directed its armed wing on Wednesday to target Chinese companies involved in infrastructure projects, including state-backed firms that the United States has blacklisted for their part in Beijing’s militarization in the South China Sea.
Facing terror charges, ETA’s last boss apologizes for deaths
The last known chief of ETA, the now-extinct Basque separatist militant group, was back in court Monday in Paris to face terrorism charges that he deems “absurd” because of his role in ending a conflict that claimed hundreds of lives and terrorized Spain for half a century.
Erdogan-backed Tatar wins shock victory in North Cyprus presidential poll
Ersin Tatar, the Ankara-backed candidate, has won a surprise victory in the presidential election in Northern Cyrpus, with all votes counted, according to official media.Tatar, 60, who had been endorsed by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, took 51.73 percent of the vote, with a 67.3 percent voter turnout, said Narin Ferdi Sefik, head of the electoral board.
India army apprehends Chinese soldier amid military standoff
The soldier, Cpl. Wang Ya Long from China’s People’s Liberation Army, was apprehended inside Indian-controlled Ladakh’s Demchok area and was to be released soon, the army said in a statement.
Foreign Office refuses to help investigation into Britain's role in US torture and kidnappings
THE Foreign Office has allegedly refused to help Scottish police with an investigation into British complicity in US torture and extraordinary rendition, drawing criticism from human rights groups today.
Turkey to abandon some observation stations in Syria's Idlib
Two people familiar with the decision told MEE that the Turkish military will now withdraw from four observation stations and two military sites that were surrounded by Syrian government forces earlier this year during a fresh assault on the rebel-held province.
French Police Fire Tear Gas at 'Yellow Vest' Protesters in Lyon (+Video)
Police in French city of Lyon fired tear gas as hundreds of 'Yellow Vest' protesters took to the streets on Saturday, despite a ban on demonstrations in the city center.People were seen throwing projectiles at police, that in turn responded with tear gas before clearing the area around Bellecour Square.
Costa Rica: National Dialogue Fails as Protests Rise Up
Last week, Costa Rica's President Carlos Alvarado and Legislative Assembly President Eduardo Cruickshank convened a multi-sectoral negotiation process to seek solutions to the financial crisis.In that negotiation, the possible application to a billion-dollar loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) was to be consulted.
Palestinian political prisoners end hunger strike after Israel meets demands
PALESTINIAN political prisoners ended a four-day hunger strike today after Israeli authorities conceded to their demands, the Palestinian Prisoner Society (PPS) has confirmed.
Protest against Covid-19 rules in Prague escalates into clashes with police (VIDEOS)
The rally was gathered to object to the government’s response to the Covid-19 epidemic. One of those rules triggered the violent confrontation. Gatherings of more than 500 people are currently banned in the Czech Republic, and even smaller ones require people to wear face masks and spread in groups of up to 20 people separated by at least two meters.
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So that was a fucking mess.
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I never see /leftypol/ discuss Ho Chi Minh. Why? He seems absolutely based.
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Could the threat of global nuclear war be the glden opportunity for a global socialist revolution?
Hear me out. I'm not trying to argue for this from the Posadist perspective of "lmao aliens", what instead I'm trying to do is to analyze what the next global imperialist conflict, which will certainly involve nukes.
So, we know that capitalist imperialist countries are today facing an unprecedented crisis of low profitability and high income inequality, and that the only path of this crisis the imperial bourgeoisie knows is to keep expanding their empire to more and more land, at the same time there are also emerging competing imperial blocks that are more and more influence on the global stage like the European Union, Russia, India, potentially China, Japan, Turkey and last but not least Brazil, thus it's only a matter of time that all these imperial powers will enter into conflict with each other to decide who gets a bigger share of the pie. We also know that if there was a war to be fought between these countries it would involve nuclear mutually assured destruction and global societal collapse, thus it's not in anyone but the imperialist financial bourgoisie's (the so-called 1%) to enter such a war.
In 1917, the bolshevik party in Russia successfully led a revolution against the Russian state and seized control of the state for the proletariat. They were successful for a myriad of reasons, but one reason in particular that really propelled their support forward among the widest base of the Russian people, even non-proletarians, was their opposition to the war. The key here is that all other parties, reactionary and reformist, were locked in a war that was pretty much devastating for the whole Russian nation, particularly the workers and the peasantry, and thus had the war continued on it would've spelled disaster for everyone. Thus the bolsheviks, the most popular anti-war party was supported in the revolution even by people who were not particularly invested in revolutionary socialism. Their slogan "Peace, land and bread" is what won the bolsheviks and the working class the revolution.
Another point is a criticism Trotsky made of the USSR after its establishment which is that because it was developed on the backs of the undeveloped mass of peasantry and that it had to catch up with the rest of the world in terms of industrial production the development of socialism stagnated and opportunist and revisionist elements were able to take over the state and steer it back towards capitalism. This he attributes to the fact that the USSR was isolated from the rest of the world in the first half of its existence, thus he argues that the only path forward for socialism to prevail is for the revolution to happen all over the world and not be limited to one country. Of course due to the limitations the USSR found itself under and the global reaction it received from western imperialist countries the project of expanding socialism to the rest of the world was inherently limited.
Thus, I arrive at this conclusion.
-If global nuclear war is inevitable.
-If it also posits a devastating and existential problem for the citizens (of which the workers are the absolute majority) of all the world.
-If the imperialist financial bourgeoisie is the only class that would realistically support such a war.
-If communist revolutionaries are historically most successful when they oppose imperialist wars, even more so when such wars are devastating for the majority of people.
-And if socialism can only prevail when the majority of countries are able to successfully transition to socialism.
Then that means that global socialist revolution can only happen if vanguard communist parties the world over oppose the coming global nuclear war. If nothing else, it will at least ensure that a majority of countries have turned to socialism and thus the rule of capital will be significantly weakened, thus it will be finally on the way out. What socialist countries especially have an advantage in over imperialist capitalist ones is solidarity and mutual aid which will definitely ensure that they will stand with each other while the old capitalist order tears itself into shreds.
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1. How and when were you red pilled on democracy?
2. How do I efficiently red pill liberals on democracy without having to write a 20 page long article and have them say "commie propoganda"?
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We need a labourwave/anarchowave thread. I'll start.
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In August 1937, Mao published the essay "On Contradiction" on the subject of dialectics and how "dialectics in the proper sense is the study of contradiction in the very essence of objects." I'm currently reading On Contradiction and wanted to share some notes about it.
First of all, it's important to stress that contradiction is universal and exists in all things. In math, there is (+) and (-). In mechanics, action and reaction. In war, there is offense and defense, victory and defeat. Life and death. Axis vs. Allies. In bourgeois American politics, Republicans and Democrats. Bourgeois and proletariat. Tankies and Anarkiddies. Some contradictions are antagonistic (and can only be resolved through struggle), while others are not (they can be resolved through debate). Being able to observe and determine non-antagonistic from antagonistic contradictions is very important.
Secondly, Mao contrasts the dialectical worldview with the metaphysical, idealist world view:
>The metaphysical .... world outlook sees things as isolated, static and one-sided. It regards all things in the universe, their forms and their species, as eternally isolated from one another and immutable. Such change as there is can only be an increase or decrease in quantity or a change of place.
This relates to liberal philosophy which does not believe that "the point, however, is to change it" (Marx). Liberal philosophy, which in the class interest of the bourgeoisie, views a subject as an independent observer who contemplates a social totality. This cannot become dialectical materialism, the intellectual weapon of the proletariat, wherein knowledge is only possible as the subject modifies the environment. For example:
>They contend that a thing can only keep on repeating itself as the same kind of thing and cannot change into anything different. In their opinion, capitalist exploitation, capitalist competition, the individualist ideology of capitalist society, and so on, can all be found in ancient slave society, or even in primitive society, and will exist for ever unchanged. They ascribe the causes of social development to factors external to society, such as geography and climate. They search in an over-simplified way outside a thing for the causes of its development, and they deny the theory of materialist dialectics which holds that development arises from the contradictions inside a thing.
This reminds me of several things, like ancaps and libertarians such as Peter Schiff who will say capitalism has always existed and will always exist. Or Amity Shlaes from the other day: "I still believe in markets. Markets do not fail us. We fail markets." More on this in a second but another important thing in On Contradiction is how change occurs:
>As opposed to the metaphysical world outlook, the world outlook of materialist dialectics holds that in order to understand the development of a thing we should study it internally and in its relations with other things; in other words, the development of things should be seen as their internal and necessary self-movement, while each thing in its movement is interrelated with and interacts on the things around it. The fundamental cause of the development of a thing is not external but internal; it lies in the contradictoriness within the thing. There is internal contradiction in every single thing, hence its motion and development. Contradictoriness within a thing is the fundamental cause of its development, while its interrelations and interactions with other things are secondary causes.
Another way of saying this is that:
>External causes are the condition of change and internal causes are the basis of change, and that external causes become operative through internal causes.
So in a liberal, idealist, metaphysical worldview, the crisis of capitalism right now cannot be due to the internal causes, such as the contradiction between anarchy of production and private ownership of the means of production, but some an external or outside force: the coronavirus. But according to the dialectic, the coronavirus is just the condition of change -- the basis of the economic crisis is internal to the system of production, which is a for-profit system that cannot take the necessary steps to get the virus under control as compared to socialist states.
You can also study warfare this way. After World War II, German generals retired and wrote memories where they discovered -- quite predictably -- that they were geniuses who did nothing wrong and that General Winter on the Eastern Front is why they lost the war. But like Mao pointed out, this would be ascribing the causes of the war's development to external factors -- the weather -- even though the Soviets were also fighting in winter weather. And the German army could have prepared better to deal with it, but they did not, so their failure was internal. The fact that they did not was the result of internal contradictions within their own plans and strategies, which also resulted from material contradictions Germany was facing where it couldn't defeat Britain without invading the USSR for its resources, and the weather was just one factor (among many) that restricted the overstretched and exhausted German army's ability to perform. It was the internal causes of Germany's defeat (a change) that allowed the external causes to become the condition of that change -- although the more important external cause of Germany's defeat was the Soviet army, of course, which also had its own internal contradictions and changed, modified, and improved itself over the course of the war.
Lastly, the underlying contradictions between the two economic systems of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union existed from the beginning. Once the interaction between these two systems began in the war, the contradictions between the two intensified until there was a decisive, qualitative break at Stalingrad. Contradiction is universal and absolute, it is present in the process of development of all things and permeates every process from beginning to end. Secondary contradictions (the Battle of Stalingrad was a secondary contradiction within the primary contradiction: the war) can emerge, some can be resolved, etc. as the revolutionary process develops.
Another big thing that Mao warned about is dogmatism. So attempting to replicate methods used in one situation but in different time and place and at a different stage of process can easily lead to defeat. For example, if I have a handful of guys with guns in the jungle, in the early stage of a guerrilla war, attempting to storm the capital and take over the government without any support will surely lead to defeat. There are many examples of similar behavior in the world I bet you can imagine.
What are some other contradictions you can think of?
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Back in 2016, Bernie was the most popular Democrat candidate. He should have been the Democrat nominee. The 2016 US election should have been Trump vs. Bernie. But the Democrats in Washington didn't like the man so they cheated Bernie out of the nomination and gave it to Hillary instead.
The same thing happened all over again this election cycle. Bernie was the second most popular candidate during the primaries after Biden. During the primaries, Biden had 2,687 delegates, Bernie got 1,071 and Kamala got a total of 0. Bernie was polling 25%+ in the primaries while Kamala was polling less than 1%. Bernie should have gotten the VP slot. But the Democrats in Washington didn't like the man so they decided to cheat him again and gave the VP slot to Kamala instead.
Why do you keep supporting the Democrats when they just screw you over again and again? At this point you're basically a bunch of cucks. There is literally nothing the Democrats can do to you, without you crawling back and licking their boots.
Biden is an old man. He is already past the life expectancy of a white male in the united states. Chances are that if he wins the election he will either die in office from old age or have to retire due to health problems. If Bernie was VP and this happened then he would become President. There could literally have been a Bernie Sanders Presidency in a year or two. All your dreams could have come true.
But you're all just gonna let it go, aren't you? The Dems screwed you over AGAIN but you're still going to lick their boots. You'll rationalise it, by claiming that it's all about the election, that anything is justified to stop the big orange meanie from having a second term. But the fact is that the day after the election, after the issue has been settled, you'll still be acting like a bunch of cucks.
Do any of you plan on growing a spine and holding the Democrats to account for the poor way they treated Bernie, or do you plan to continue acting like bootlickers until the next election cycle when the Dems screw you all over again?
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This looks familiar but i can't tell where i saw this before
What did he mean by this?
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He was right, and the left has been operating on flawed theory for the past 100+ years. Time to take the anarchistpill and see that Marx was on the wrong side of the debate.
THE PILL THE LEFT HAS YET TO SWALLOW
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>Make up arguments in my mind and imagine them until I win (and possibly convert my oponent or humilliate them)
>put them to practice
>lose in debates every time
why does this happen to me
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Immigrating to the PRC
I have been studying Chinese for the past 3 years in uni, and I am almost done. I want to immigrate to the glorious Chinese Peoples' Republic and become an administrator there.
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California Exodus/ Commiefornia
I keep hearing conservatives talking about "Commiefornia" about how it's a liberal socialist shithole and have a massive hateboner against it. It always revolves around them talking about businesses leaving, homelessness, crime, "far-leftist" politicians, high taxes, lawlessness, welfare class, and muh big government.
I know that California has always been a progressive state and was home to leftist movements like the Black Panthers. Its obviously the liberal capitalism is the problem rather than "ebil socialism"
Can any California anons explain the current crisis of your state and how these reactionaries are full of shit about Cali? If not, some videos or reading materials would be nice.
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It seems that materialism is increasingly being cast into doubt in academic philosophy due to arguments like the hard problem of consciousness and Thomas Nagel's stuff. What does this mean for Marxism? Is it over? Has liberalism won the epistemological battle?
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ITT post your best sectarian memes. Only thread on the board. Just post them to laugh. No hard feelings (:
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MAY THE ACCELERATIONIST GANG STAND UP FOR OUR FLAG
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Can we have a thread about the rising threat that is qanon.
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How is it relevant to a planned economy?
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What stops you from being a liberal nationalist?
Reminder that if you are not a liberal nationalist you aren't true to Stalin.
Stalin's last words were a call to rally in defence of civic liberties and national independence against the advancing of global monopolistic capital. Given that Stalin died before his work was completed, we are left in this precise phase of stalinist struggle, therefore we must be liberal nationalists. If you aren't, you aren't a Stalinist.
To be a proletarian revolutionist it means to absorb completely the bourgeoise revolutionist, the two become one, the proletarian revolution is the final moment of the bourgeoise revolution. Expropriating the last expropriator.
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Karl Marx and the "N" word
Hey fellow communists I've been wondering why there seems to be this anger about using the N word on this site when our hero Carl Marx used the word himself. In a letter to Engels, (he was talking about Ferdinand
Lassale) Marx Wrote “It is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes who had joined Moses’ exodus from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother on the paternal side had not interbred with a uighur. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also uighur-like.”
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be honest, do you buy books on amazon?
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Getting hotwheels on Chapo
Fredrick Brennan, founder of 8chan, has been on something of a warpath against Jim and co, along with Qanon. He's also said before that /leftypol/ was the only good thing to come out of 8chan.
We could probably get a shout-out on chapo if he actually gets on. So, any ideas? Anybody know a guy? Or just want to @ the chapo guys on twitter?
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Post criticisms of Carlos Markovski and/or his work
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Bolivian government official threatens election observers ahead of Sunday's election
BOLIVIAN immigration minister Marcel Rivas has been accused of inciting violence against journalists and international observers ahead of Sunday’s general election.
Bolivia: MAS Will Have Its Own Vote-Counting System
According to the MAS Electoral Control Direction, the quick count will provide real-time reports structured by observers at the local, departmental, and national levels. The aim is to have the photographs of the electoral records to get reliable and trustworthy information instantly.
Pakistan's united opposition protests against Imran Khan's rule
The protest in Gujranwala on Friday was the first held by the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM), an alliance of 11 opposition political parties that have united to oust Khan from power. Maulana Fazlur Rehman, leader of the PDM, said: “This is an illegal government. It’s been imposed upon us by the establishment. We reject this illegal rule.”
Transit shutdowns fail to deter Thai pro-democracy protests
Pro-democracy activists in Thailand staged a fourth straight day of high-profile protests in the capital on Saturday, thwarting efforts by the authorities to stop them, including a shutdown of the city’s mass transit systems.
Ex-prisoner Sadyr Japarov confirmed as Kyrgyzstan president
Sadyr Japarov, a nationalist politician who until last week was serving an 11-year jail term on kidnapping charges, has been confirmed as president of Kyrgyzstan after his predecessor resigned following protests.
Colombia: Another Community Leader Murdered in Antioquia
A group of armed man Saturday killed Colombia's social leader Jairo Pulgarin, who was a farmer and served as vice president of the Community Action Board of the Tesorito village, in Antioquia Department.
China is practicing unleashing swarms of suicide drones packed with explosives from the backs of trucks
A Chinese defense contractor recently test-launched a swarm of loitering munitions from a light tactical vehicle, and there's a video of the system in action.Loitering munitions, more commonly known as suicide drones, fill a capability gap between cruise missiles and traditional fixed-wing combat drones by lingering over the battlefield.
Make the Duterte fascist regime bleed from a thousand cuts! Mount more tactical offensives nationwide!
The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) commends the New People’s Army (NPA) for the series of successful tactical offensives across the country over the past two months. Various NPA units have mounted scores of ambushes, harassment and demolition operations and other tactical offensives against the regime’s fascist armed troops.
Iran reports two new cyberattacks
An Iranian official said that hackers attacked two government institutions this week, but details are scant.The attacks took place on Monday and Tuesday, and some government bodies temporarily shut down their internet as a precaution, Reuters reported on Thursday.
Far-right thugs harassing asylum-seekers whenever they leave MoD site in Kent where they are being held, campaigners tell the Star
ASYLUM-SEEKERS held in a former army camp in Kent are being harassed and intimidated by far-right activists every time they leave the site, campaigners told the Morning Star today.
Grenfell Tower landlord had 'secret' meeting on cost cutting, inquiry told
The Grenfell Tower landlord held a secret meeting to cut refurbishment costs – including discussing the switch to cheaper cladding – despite being warned by lawyers that it would break procurement law and could void the main contract, the public inquiry into the disaster was told.
Brazilian Senator Caught With Money in His Underwear During Investigation of Missing COVID Funding
Brazilian senator Chico Rodrigues made a cheeky move when he allegedly decided to try hiding government funds. Police found 30,000 reales ($5,300) in cash in hidden in the Amazon state of Roraima's leader's underwear when searching for missing money intended for coronavirus relief.
Gaza children struggle with studies during COVID-19 lockdown
Israel’s crippling 13-year blockade of Gaza has resulted in regular electricity shortages and internet disruption, compounding the education challenges.“Remote learning is exhausting as the mobile screen is too small, but there is no other option. The children don’t have books and they need to follow up their lessons or they will be uneducated,” said Walaa.
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Opinions on him?
I always thought he is just an anarcho-primitivist but after reading The Truth About Primitive Life and I'm confused. In his mind the primitive hunter-gatherer-society was worse the the modern society is. Yet he wants to destroy Technology because of it's opressive nature and return to the primal state.
Is he just a spooked radical environmentalist?
From the letter to a turkish anarchist:
"Thus, even though the GA [Green Anarchist] Movement claims to reject civilization and modernity, it remains enslaved to some of the most important values of modern society. For this reason, the GA Movement cannot be an effective revolutionary movement.
In the first place, part of the GA Movements energy is deflected away from the real revolutionary objective — to eliminate modern technology and civilization in general — in favor of the pseudo-revolutionary issues of racism, sexism, animal rights, homosexual rights, and so forth."
He doesn't even mention class. Furthermore, he never explains why and how technology is oppression but somehow capitalism, sexism ect. aren't?
It's like in the battle men against nature, he is siding with nature. This sounds utterly retarded.
Am I missing something?
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Holy fucking shit I hate liberals so godamn fucking much holy fucking shit
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Time to understand 4chan
Since 2009 I have been to 4chan, on and off again, posting there every now and then but mostly observing it from the sidelines as this interesting, constantly transmutating nihilistic beast, always screaming from its chinless mouth, chained to the wall by it's own stupidity. I feel like whatever that cesspool was, is and will be, it's connected to /leftypol/ as well, as most of us have started out from 4chan in one way or another.
Enough of the intro, I'll get to the very core of my question - does there exist such a thing as a comprehensive overview of 4chan, detailing each board's relation to one another, how the boards have grown/shrunk over time, what migrations have they endured from people outside of chan culture?
I think that a more detailed insight on 4chan and it's components and culture is needed to understand the specific monster, called /pol/. And, PLEASE, don't just refer to materials that look into fascism - I don't want a thread dead because I cannot lurk and need to be spoonfed on fascism. I mean, any overviews, videos, screencaps of previous posts or other materials on 4CHAN in particular.
Answer to my question will help me to gain answers to my personal hypothesis. I basically want to control a hypothesis which is saying that 4chan is right now in a stabilization process where individual boards and their cultures are fighting to gain independence from /pol/ and in a 5-10 years time, unironic fascism in /pol/ or 4chan in general will be dead.
This hypothesis comes from the fact that if you are one of the oldfags, you probably remember there was a time when 4chan was still not politically correct, but apolitical - a bit leftist, perhaps even, as evidenced by that old Bill O'Reily comment about 4chan being a far-left forum. What if 4chan can move back to being apolitical? I am not saying that it will up it's quality, it can still remain a cesspool with stupidity and cuss words, but with a more apolitical nuance, or even a leftist nuance?
Important thing to note is that there has been a generation change in 4chan - it's very obvious that people who go to 4chan today are not the same people who were there in the 00's. If you ask people of 4chan now, it's not rare to find people not knowing what "pool's closed" means, or even who Christopher Poole is. This generational change implies that there must have been a change in 4chan, like how in every 7 years, all the cells in your body have renewed and you are technically speaking made from completely different stuff now, and older, but still essentially, "you" are "you", and you still feel like yourself.
If you don't know any good sources, you are welcome to post in this thread with your own take on 4chan. Any constructive or longer posts ITT will help me (and others with the same question) get towards better understanding of where 4chan was, is, and will be, and in turn, will help me navigate more intelligently in the chan culture and internet culture. It is very critical to not operate under false notions and preconceptions when dealing with the beast that it is.
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The Labour Party won the elections in New Zealand. Are they better or worse or the same when compared to European socdems? What do we think of them?
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Let's watch a movie (motorcycle diaries) on cytube - ORGANIZING THREAD
Ok let's try organize to watch a movie...specifically on che it's called "The Motorcyle Diaries" I highly rate it.
I suggest we watch in the afternoon or at night and we organize a time where euros and north americans and other continents can all watch together on the main bunkerhcan cytube (https://cytu.be/r/bunkerchantemp)
^ the movie (Spanish w English subtitles)
ok let's organize this so we can watch this brilliant movie together leftypol, we need to figure out correlating times and the date should be next weekend as most people are free on the weekend.
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why do rightoids make for such good target practice?
seriously tho im surprised the score is 2 for 2 considering how many more of them there are compared to actual leftists and the few pro-gun libs
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Since we seemingly have no general theory thread up, let's make one.
Discuss Marxist theory
Self explanatory. Questions, thoughts, answers, whatever.
What are you reading?
Post what you're reading and what you think of it.
Post other recommendations
Again, self explanatory. Post books and articles you found interesting.
/pol/ welcome to ask questions if in good faith.
If interested but don't know where to start, see attached picture.
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Egoism and good communism arguments.
I think that we on the left don't argue much from the position of like actual rational self interest. The reason you should be a communist is that it will vastly improve your own life imo.
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>tfw we're the single biggest source of /pol/yp butthurt
feels good man
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>CORN MAN BAD
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Let me just take a second to explicate and actualize something that some people might have been starting to notice:
/pol/kids are showing up here in larger numbers every day. This means more /pol/ posters are curious (even if they mask it with “raiding” or “gotchas,” just as they were curious when they made the mistake of checking out /pol/ and getting tricked into buying the empty right-tard ideology.
This also means we have a golden opportunity to actually fucking explain why it’s in their best interest to leave their spooky blood and soil bullshit behind and learn the material reality of the class struggle and their own class interests. (Hi /pol/ guy reading this, have you ever felt like you’re getting fucked over more by the system then by all the other broke-ass people like you? Like your coworkers, maybe?)
Guys, it’s time. We can start really winning the ideological battle. We just have to be aware of this and try. To succeed, we need to understand the playing field. I hope this helps. Thanks for listening.
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Hello Fellow leftists where should I hide my guns for the revolution, which by the way when is it? I dont want to be late
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Karl Kautsky died 82 years ago today
What do you think we can learn from him? Kautsky is such a baffling figure. He went from being considered the highest authority on Marxism and leader of the Second International to an irrelevant old socdem figure who died in obscurity as fascism gripped Europe. Here's Trotsky's words on his death:
>The appearance of an epoch of great crises and of great shocks revealed the fundamentally reformist character of the Social Democracy and of its theoretician Kautsky. Lenin broke resolutely with Kautsky at the beginning of the war. After the October Revolution he published a merciless book on the “renegade Kautsky.” As for Marxism, Kautsky, from the beginning of the war, behaved incontestably like a renegade. But as for himself, he was only half a renegade from his past, so to speak: when the problems of the class struggle were posed in all their acuteness, Kautsky found himself constrained to draw the final conclusions of his organic opportunism. Kautsky undoubtedly leaves behind numerous works of value in the field of Marxian theory, which he applied successfully in the most variegated domains. His analytical thought was distinguished by an exceptional force. But it was not the universal creative intelligence of Marx, of Engels, or of Lenin: all his life Kautsky was, at bottom, a talented commentator. His character, like his thought, lacked audacity and sweep, without which revolutionary politics is impossible. From the very first cannon-shot, he occupied an ill-defined pacifist position; then he became one of the leaders of the Independent Social Democratic Party which tried to create a Two-and-one-Half International; then, with the debris of the Independent Party he returned under the wing of the Social Democracy. Kautsky understood nothing of the October Revolution, showed the petty-bourgeois savant’s fright before it, and devoted to it not a few works imbued with a spirit of fierce hostility. His works in the last quarter of a century are characterized by a complete theoretical and political decline. The foundering of the German and Austrian Social Democracy was also the foundering of all the reformist conceptions of Kautsky. To be sure, he still continued to affirm to the last that he had hopes of a “better future,” of a “regeneration” of democracy, etc.; this passive optimism was only the inertia of a laborious and in its way honest long life, but it contained no independent perspective. We remember Kautsky as our former teacher to whom we once owed a good deal, but who separated himself from the proletarian revolution and from whom, consequently, we had to separate ourselves.
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Would banks and debt exist in communist society? How would they work? Would they be able to lend out labor voucher credits?
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Why do you guys support the working class if you're NEETs in the basement? According to Marx, wouldn't that make you lumpenproles? Marx didn't have very nice things to say about lumpenproles, and they weren't treated very well under socialism.
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How do we beat the Antarctic Nazis?
We all know the Nazis found something in Antarctica. Nazi scientists were no joke, and when they landed in New Swabia they didn't even care to come back.
Could they have found the kingdom of Agarttha? But if they did, what about the 4,700 American soldiers that went after them?
If the US government had reason to suspect something going on there (and we can assume it might have had something to do with the remaining Nazis given the timeframe), could they have killed them off? Or been overwhelmed by their more advanced Agartthic technology?
Moreover, we know that Agarttha is home to the "King of the World", meaning the Nazis might be controlling our current political climate from their underground kingdom. This would explain the sharp right-ward shift we're seeing nowadays in world politics.
Should a future socialist state make efforts to send their army in search of Agarttha, and put a stop to the hidden Nazi menace?
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Have you guys seen this shit yet?
Found out last night that the Chinese government funded the creation of an anime in 2019 about the life and achievements of Marx to help get young people interested in Marxism. It's called The Leader
, it's 7 episodes long and it's extremely fucking funny.
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Do you trust comrade Xi?
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Who exactly is 'working class'? Am I working class?
From what I understand, one of the main concepts in socialism is the division of society into two classes: the capitalist class and the working class (or bourgeoisie and proletariat in more Marxist sounding words). If I remember correctly, the capitalist class refers to people who earn their livelihoods through ownership of capital (businesses, real estate, stocks, etc.), while the working class refers to people who earn their livelihoods by selling their labor to capitalists (i.e. working for wages). According to socialists, the good guys are the working class while the bad guys are the capitalists.
I am not currently employed, spending my time as a university student. I am financially dependent on my parents, who could probably be classified as capitalists. While I'm not familiar with the details of their finances, my parents seem to get their money from two sources: my dad's business and an inheritance from my grandfather. My dad owns a small literary agency and I think has two employees (although I am not certain about their precise relationship to the company). He doesn't seem to make much money from it though, and thus my family seems to rely, at least partially, on my grandfather's inheritance. I am not certain about the full value of my grandfather's inheritance, what it consists of, or if my parents receive any sort of passive income from it. That said, as someone who is financially dependent on them, do I automatically belong to my parents' class? I do not intend to ever work for or take over my dad's business, and I will probably become a wage laborer after I graduate from university. Also, if socialists ever take over my city/region/country, should I worry about me or my parents getting gulag'd?
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>Comrades, to facilitate growth from our low stage of capitalism in this war torn country, we need to implement a short-term NEP.
<Omg so based
>Comrades, to facilitate growth from our high stage of semi-colonialist feudalism in this war torn country, we need to implement a longer-term NEP.
<OMG FUCKIN REVISIONIST NOOOO
Reminder DXT is actually accurate to Mao Zedong thought. MLM, the revisionist idea of "Maoism" is incompatible with close studies of Marx, Lenin and Mao while Deng Xiaoping thought has both turned China into a world power and is actually in line with what the aforementioned actually wrote.
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communism in turkey
Very sorry for the low effort post but i just knew this now.
Did you guys know that a year ago
A small region in turkey elected a communist mayor?i want to know more about him
Is he /our guy/? Or just another succdem?or maybe worst,an identity p*litics enthusiast
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It's time to face the facts and admit Marxism has failed; it's time to go back. Kant offered an ethics that served as the groundwork for many 19th century Neo-Kantian socialists. Engels strawmanned utopian socialism; picking fools like Fourier and Owen as representatives instead of the rigorous philosophy of the Kantians.
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Fascist theory is shit?
I've read through leftist theory with relative ease.
The Manifesto, The Conquest and Mutual Aid, The Unique, State and Revolution...
Sometimes I had to re-read a paragraph, sometimes I disagreed - but it always seemed like y'know... not pulled from someone's arsehole.
But when I tried to read into pic related all I saw was philosophical rambling with dubious bases and conclusions.
Is my skull too thick to get it?
Or is fascist theory just shit?
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Another evil era
Anyone else remember when they had history class as a child and had this post-history feel, as if all bad things are in the past and now we live in this special era, where people are reasonable and all problems are clear cut and all bad guys are obvious. Yes, this might have been due to being a child, but reading about the past it felt like "this is obviously bad, why did people let it come to this?"
Well, it just hit me we live in another epoch like that.
If we pretend humanity will live on for another hundred years to declare what is happening right now history, just like we declared the Third Reich for example history, this epoch will be one of where Westerners white washed their history to present themselves as more good than they actually are (just look at the US and and its past few decades), believed Western propaganda doesn't exist (LOL), created a global system of capitalist exploitation that explicitly cripples nations in the Third World to sustain the wealth in the West while simultaneously believing that this came to be because people from these regions are just innately inferior, but being polite enough to not explicitly say it (besides social rejects who have nothing to lose), overthrowing governments, funding terrorism and waging endless proxy wars under the guise of freedom and democracy, when it's actually about acquiring resources, setting up military bases to surround & intimidate enemies and replacing foreign heads of states with ones that will bow to Western demands. Then the inhabitants of these mangled countries try to flee their undeserved fate, immigrating to Europe and they get demonized and attacked over having been randomly born as something and somewhere that was out of their control, just like Westerners undeservedly were born into a wealthy life (compared globally) and they don't even know why the Middle East and Africa are the way they are which makes the average Westerner highly susceptible to right wing propaganda.
I'm not saying anything special here. You guys know all of that. It's just that it hit me that we still live in an unjust world and I feel like the only thing that ever advances is technology, but not this species and its characteristics. You might say we still live in a less violent era, but I don't think the world has become less cruel. I think cruelty has merely become more intelligent. Just like how warfare has become more intelligent. You don't enslave people and house them in a hut across your plantation. You place the countries you had colonized in an economic headlock and put them in a position where they are grateful for scraps and to work for next to nothing. You declare slavery illegal but create a systems that funnels the most vulnerable people of your society into crime and quick incarceration, to make them work for nothing in prison. You don't ram a bayonet into your enemie's heart but you sit in an air-conditioned room and drone strike a family who weren't terrorists after all. Whoopsies! Thank God nobody in your country gives a shit though. Just more collateral damage.
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Minecraft is the reason why Generation Zizek is becoming class conscious
Minecraft is the reason why gen Z (aka Generation Žižek) is becoming so redpilled
>Steve: The unalienated worker. He builds virtually all of the great wonders of the Minecraft world out of his own volition, not for the sake of the ruling class. His purpose in life is the expression of his productive capabilities.
>Zombies: Represent mindless consumerism. They try to eat the player - they seek to turn Steve into another commodity for them to eat. They die in sunlight because they cannot stand the shining path of marxism-leninism.
>Illagers: Represent the American Empire. They seek to destroy successful socialist societies and set up military bases around the Minecraft world.
>Endermen: The representation of the bourgeoisie in Minecraft. They attempt to steal blocks from what the player has made - they leach off of his labour.
>Creepers: Representative of scabs and wreckers. They attempt to ruin what Steve has made and fear cats - the symbols of organised labour.
>Villagers: Represent the petit-bourgeoisie. They can either help or hinder the player and his revolutionary ambitions.