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Leftist Music General muse 07/31/2020 (Fri) 05:50:41 No. 734405 [Reply] [Last]
Back on /leftypol/ for the first time since 2016, so I thought I'd make a music thread like I used back then. Lets all share and discuss leftist music. Id's be cool to see if anyone saved the old webms I made way back when. Obligatory GETchan link:https://www.youtube.com/user/PchanKingOfGETs
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implicitly leftwing song, it hits harder if you are south american https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3__HmlJIyIU

OC Thread 5.0 Anonymous 04/05/2020 (Sun) 16:12:47 No. 419177 [Reply] [Last]
New thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share. Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made. Archived Thread : >>8622 https://leftypics.booru.org/
Edited last time by krates on 04/14/2020 (Tue) 01:09:51.
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we need a catgirl that doesn't read
>>685040 This is how I spend my fridays.
>>724996 Lmao, the cone.
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>>742546 Come on,it already exists. it's the alt-right catgirl.

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Jordan Peterson: Neo marxism is on the rise Anonymous 08/03/2020 (Mon) 03:08:50 No. 740929 [Reply] [Last]
*BLOCKS YOUR PATH* what do you say, neo marxists? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7e_BaXU3mA hes back >inb4 put this in internet general Peterson isn't an eceleb. Well he is but he's also an academic, even if he is a pseud TLDR: Standard kevtching about kulaks and then he pivots to hate speech muh sjws. Why does the right like this guy so much? what kind of fucking rubes listen to this hysterical man whinging about shit, and think >"yep, that's right, thats good profound advice it changed my life! I'm going to make this guy my new dad!"
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>>742397 Uncomfortable but not as uncomfortable as depriving yourself of another tasty double cheese pizza and triple chocolate fudge cheesecake helped down with fizzy pop and scrumptious ale.
Here's how the synthesis works: Thesis: Marxism Anti-thesis: post-Marxism Synthesis: Neo-Marxism
>>742453 Thesis: Marxism Anti-thesis: CIA Synthesis: Radlibs
>>742551 Gigabased

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Anonymous 08/03/2020 (Mon) 04:37:33 No. 741054 [Reply] [Last]
Marxism doesn't seem to make ethical claims, and it seems that it leaves the door open to ethical frameworks outside of Marxism that could lead one to a Marxist methodology for social change, maybe some utilitarian position or the like. Do you as an individual Marxist make claims about oppression being wrong, or liberation being good? How do you arrive at these value judgements?
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>>741873 What about people who think the following >>I have internal passions >Including ones that want other people to be maximally fulfilled and developed >Communism contradicts this passion >I therefore support fighting communism >Similarly minded people therefore are allies, most others are to be either convinced or left alone, staunch opponents are enemies
>Marxism doesn't seem to make ethical claims It does, it has to. Nothing can be meaningfully used politicaly without some kind of moral axioms behind it, and Marxism isn't an exeption to this.
>>741164 >don’t want humanity to die out. Humanity can fend for themselves, i care about the workers
>>742127 They have different class interests; they can get fucked tbh. It's not hard to just become a worker.
>>742418 I know workers and proles who think like this - a lot They're not bad people and genuinely believe they're right

The Great Car Crash Theory Anonymous 08/03/2020 (Mon) 15:29:04 No. 741898 [Reply] [Last]
"Grandpa Found the Car Keys" By Villain Wins (the video that's linked) portrays a mysterious car crash. On the surface it looks like a normal car crash, man is speeding, it hits X object that makes the car uncontrollable, and finally it proceeds to the rest of the damage. The mysterious part of the car crash is that its impossible to locate when it starts or when it ends. Did the car crash start when Grandpa hit the man' car? Was it when he was going 7 bajillion miles per hour? Or was it even when he obtained the car keys? If fate is a real thing, then shouldn't the car crash started when the Grandpa was born? Hence the subject of this thread, my "Great Car Crash" theory, the theory being that people are born with certain characteristics that will lead them to lead great car crashes. Now the next question, when does a car crash ends? Does the car crash end when the car has flipped over and has been just like in the video? Did it end when the driver has passed away? Or does the car crash end when it's forgotten in the public conscious? If going by my theory it's made clearer, since people are born with certain traits to lead to car crashes, and going with the famous quote, "History is repeated twice, once as tragedy, second as farce", this would then imply that this car crash actually ends during the second time it occurs. However though the second time is vague in itself, since a second time can actually be the fourth time and everything else was just the "first time". Leading only to the logical conclusion that a car crash never ends, it's forever lives on as an enigma. Since a car crash then can never end, it can never start, which finally leads us to this point: A car crash never starts or ends, it just happens. What do you think /leftypol/?
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It's okay anon I got the meme
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>>741898 This is your brain on philosophy
>>741898 >If fate is a real thing I mean this whole theory is reliant on this very thing. Is fate a real thing? Do we have any way to know? Would we even have the capacity of knowing?
>>742471 fate favors only the death of all
this belong on /edu/

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Anonymous 06/28/2020 (Sun) 20:19:56 No. 648938 [Reply] [Last]
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>>739018 So is /ref/ just /GET/ with flags?
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>>737803 These are cute. Good OC. Reminder to visit /tech/ and /GET/ /games/ too.
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>>737803 forgot to add this last one: >>>/edu/ is /math/
>>736757 I wish he'd hurry up, board desperately needs an injection of life.
>>739034 thats kinda true. Its actually an international board/ international shitposting board

Anonymous 08/03/2020 (Mon) 05:02:35 No. 741083 [Reply] [Last]
How many wumao operate on this board at any given time of day?
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as long as it's not some cia glowies
>>741622 NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DEBUNK WESTERN NARRATIVES, YOU MUST PREPARE THE REVOLUTINO BY SPREADING CIA POINTS NOOOOOOOOOO
>>742306 >Chinazi Found the Hk gusano
>>741193 I hear Destined for War recommended a lot, but I haven’t read it yet. The thesis seems pretty simple, China and the US are heading towards war in the future (cold or hot? Don’t know what the book argues) because China’s rise is threatening US global hegemony. The goodreads reviews imply it gives some useful perspective to the people who read it though. I saw several that came away understanding the Chinese people support the CPC because of their improving living standards, which I think is something many Americans don’t fully internalize because they oscillate between reading news that Chinese mainlanders are racist colonizers of Xinjiang and that China is ruthlessly suppressing their population’s freedoms. So they kind of jump between being consummate victims and united oppressors (“Chinazis” etc.)
>>742346 The wusano

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Were 50s and 60s last time when capitalism actually worked? Anonymous 07/29/2020 (Wed) 15:26:35 No. 729758 [Reply] [Last]
When I mean worked, I mean, it wasn't state of crisis as it is today, and gained actual ""benefit"" to capitalists, which actually didn't do anything crazy or outstanding as they are doing today (marketing and production wise). Capitalists in 50s and 60s did just whatever they were doing in 20s and it was working for them. Also employment was actually high (real employment,not jackshit that exist today), that means they had a lot of money to throw away. Am I wrong? What happened after 60s? Why capitalism entered it's dead end after 1968?
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>>737814 >tfw burgers still unironically believe that pic
>>737818 Doesn't have that issue. But it gotta have a starting date. Maybe they are right but didn't account for 9/11, since that couldn't really be predicted.
>>735497 >Nope, Europe was already running at full blast by the mid-50s not the UK. the uk was still stagnating in the 1950s from ww2, they even still had rationing
>>737814 The vast majority of burgers didn't, not even at the apex of the Silicon Valley bubble which produced that magazine. From at least the 1980s into the 2010s burgerstani have always thought the future will be worse than the past: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0520-mcmanus-cruz-pessimism-20150520-column.html >Cruz is right that Americans are in a pessimistic mood. An NBC-Wall Street Journal poll last year found that only 21% said they were confident that life would be better for their children’s generation; 76% said the opposite. >But Cruz is wrong on another important point: There’s nothing new about this brand of pessimism. Pollsters have been hearing those sour sentiments from Americans for more than 30 years — ever since they started asking the question. Advertisement >In 1986, for example, 63% said in a CBS-New York Times poll that they believed the next generation was unlikely to have a bright future — and that was during Ronald Reagan’s presidency, when it was morning in America. >“From 1984 until now, a plurality on almost every survey, and sometimes a majority, has said the next generation would have it worse than this generation,” Samuel L. Popkin, a political scientist at UC San Diego, told me a few years ago. >It turns out that as Americans, we don’t just share the American dream; we share a tradition of worrying that the dream is slipping away. Voters aren’t pessimistic because Barack Obama has been president for six years; they were already pessimistic before Obama entered law school. >And Cruz isn’t the first politician to discover this continent — far from it. Walter F. Mondale sounded some of the same themes when he ran against Reagan in 1984. So did Michael S. Dukakis when he ran against George H.W. Bush in 1988. Bill Clinton did too, in 1992. And so did Mitt Romney, when he ran against Obama in 2012. >All of them aimed their campaign against an incumbent in the White House when the economy was sputtering. All of them encouraged voters to think that the party in power was presiding over the loss of the American dream. >The most striking thing about these polls over the last 30 years is how consistent the pessimism has been. Between 1989 and 2014, no poll ever found a majority that believed the next generation would be better off. >The closest we got to euphoria was in early 2000, the last boom year of the Clinton administration, when a plurality of 44% saw better times ahead. >Last year, in that same CBS-New York Times poll, 23% said they believed the next generation would be better off, 50% said it would be worse off, and 23% said it would fare about the same as the current generation — dispiriting numbers but roughly average for the last quarter-century.
>>737814 End of History stuff hurts my soul.

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Return of slavery? Anonymous 07/29/2020 (Wed) 18:19:13 No. 730433 [Reply] [Last]
It was brought up in the idpol thread that the profit margin of slavery was around 12%. I looked it up, that's apparently from Alfred Conrad and John Meyer's article "The Economics of Slavery in the Ante Bellum South", available here: https://sci-hub.tw/10.1086/258020 While there might be debates around the correctness of the study, etc, the question that interests me is about how this number compares to the rate of profit today. Micheal Roberts' study of the world rate of profit is posted here on his blog: https://sci-hub.tw/10.1086/258020 There, he posits that the global rate of profit is sitting around 15% for the world, and is as low as 7% in the G7 countries. At this point, wage slavery is half as profitable as chattel slavery. Does this mean we might see a return of widespread chattel slavery? I see the ideas of 'neofeudalism' and 'cyberpunk ancap dystopia' bandied about a lot. Is this the form it might take? A return to owning people full-time, instead of renting them by the hour?
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>>741661 >>741663 Why are you replying to almost a week old bait?
>>741609 >>741607 >>741606 Prison population's explosion has rendered the prison population a non-negligible amount of the working class. Slavery isn't the primary mode of production but it's a serious secondary one.
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>>741617 With 80 000 people arriving annually, there'd be a shit-load of building and very little farming. Mars is completely inhospitable, so whatever agriculture you're gonna have has to be indoors, and has to be very intensive to save space. If he thinks he can have a chill varied life as an EPIC MARTIAN FRONTIER COLONIST YAY SCI-FI LYFE, he's wrong. It'll be a lifetime of back-breaking labor under cramped conditions and intense social pressure. Particularly if capitalists are the ones to decide, since there's very little profit to be made there, if any. As such, any prestige-project like that would be required to keep expenses at an absolute minimum. And with the entire colony being a certain someone's property, and guaranteed death awaiting outside, with only an expensive several-month journey as the way out... Yeah.
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I mean a slave is really forced scab, and we are full of scabs these days. Like janitors and mods. These guys do it for free and they think they are protecting the discussion on this board.
>>741675 Use of the catalog combined with CTRL+Fing things to get mad about

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Back To The 19th Century Anonymous 08/02/2020 (Sun) 02:13:15 No. 738138 [Reply] [Last]
>be me >be late 20s >work 6 days a week >can't afford my own place At this point, I have no idea how anyone under 30 is in favour of this bullshit anymore. What the fuck is the point of living like this? It's so fucking obvious that capitalism is in a deep crisis and the only reason we tolerate it is because Boomers won't let us end it peacefully. If we don't at least get some goddamned land reform, I am going to go full praxis. I don't like being forced to think these thoughts and have these feelings by a class of people who've never wanted for anything or ever had to actually learn a valuable skill. A landlord is a leech with legs. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
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>>741950 Being ashamed of having a roof over your head is retarded. In many places it's normal to stay at home, even when starting a family of your own. Get this bourgeois idea out of your head that your self worth depends on making some landlord parasite richer.
>>742010 >>742038 I like how both of these responses implicitly agree with socialism darwinism, that the uneducated are worth less and just lazy and thus deserving of misery. The only thing they would change is the debt so that there is no excuse for the subhumans.
>>741559 >>never strive for higher education I did though. Something like 7 years all together, but flunked out of both STEM majors I attempted, and was thrown out of my trades apprenticeship. Everything is super saturated and hyper competitive, and wages are rock bottom. Thanks to Coronachan, I'm better off working part time and collecting gibs than I am attempting a "real job" or "career" under neoliberalism. What you're arguing here is that basic shelter is something that only elites should afford. Thirty years ago, you would have been denounced as a nut, but now living like George Costanza is considered a privilege for the salaried. Shelter is a commodity, a status good, and an investment now instead of being the most banal thing ever.
>>742052 Well where I live I hate and am litterally alergic to and I do not want to deal with my alcoholic father anymore. I want peace and quiet and to live by my own rules. Also it's real attractive for a 30-somthing to be living with his parents, good luck starting a family like that in burger culture. "Well you use a smartphone but you're a commie"-tier argument tbh.
>>742182 Just marry a Mexican chick. They live like that anyway.

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