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What did Marx mean by "Abolish the family"? Anonymous 10/17/2020 (Sat) 07:05:48 No. 1008112 [Reply] [Last]
Did he want kids to be raised by the state or something??
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>>1014756 What "point"? Kvetching about how unjust it is that people starve when that's simply how things have always been? And even then, there's a lot less people starving now. A good percentage of poor people are obese for fuck's sake.
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>>1014788 Imagine being this fucking retarded.
>>1008146 Family must be abolished because too many children suffer at the hands of their abusive parents
>>1014788 >Things have "always been this way", thus things must never change >Cheap American fast food making people obese until they die of cardiac arrest is an argument in defense of the current circumstance of things ThingNoticer is just an edgy neocon at this point.
>>1014793 Tbh, this isn't a very good argument, because someone could just bring up how you could just focus on addressing abusive families as opposed to doing away with the concept of family all together, or simply state that nuclear family is more prone to abuse as opposed to other forms of family.

Is it just me... Anonymous 10/19/2020 (Mon) 04:07:50 No. 1012868 [Reply] [Last]
Is it just me or is /pol/ falling apart into a cesspool of complete hatred and stupidity. They fight amongst themselves if they should like Ben Shapiro or not because he's jewish, they can't decide what religion Hitler was, and they can't figure out if Trump's a jewish got or not.
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>>1014531 What passage should I read
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>>1014531 >Israel is not da joos now Oh my god, this is too rich. Please, link us to the prophecy of Q that illuminates this truth.
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>>1012868 Is it just me or is /leftypol/ falling apart into a cesspool of complete hatred and stupidity. They fight amongst themselves if they should like Vaush or not because he's a fatfuck retard, they can't decide if Nazbol is based, and they can't figure out if China is socialist or not. E B I N B I N
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>>1014316 Maybe in some ways, less so in others. I think "PC" is relative. Quentin Tarantino was considered edgy in the 90s but not so much now.
>>1013626 Which one? Can you link it?

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https://computo.oep.org.bo I see a lot of people are currently celebrating in advance the victory of MAS. However it's still not assured. This is the link to the live vote count. You can also check turnouts of individual zones. In order to win first round MAS requires either: - 50% of all votes plus one vote. - In case they don't reach 50%, they must be 10 points above the closest candidate. Pic related is what it shows at the time of writing this. Some observations: - Foreign vote is heavily pro-MAS. Most countries show high support for either CC or CREEMOS, but Argentina has a ridiculously high support for MAS. Bolivians in Argentina make over 60% of the foreign MAS vote. - La Paz has a considerable amount of MAS supporters and as of now only 14,96% of the votes have been counted. Coupled with its massive population in comparison to other departments, this region might show very good numbers for MAS when its votes are counted. - Usually the first votes to be counted are those in more urbanized areas. Rural and far away areas will probably come later in the count. A prediction I make is that it's very likely for MAS to win first round.
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Don't worry I've been watching this site it's the official result site since like last night, the results trickle in every few minutes and MAS gains while CC keeps going down, the exit polls will be right once all the results are in by tomorrow probably
>>1014327 As of now there's a 4,58% gap between the Mas and Mesa with 31% of the ballots in, and it does nothing but get wider and wider.
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>>1014250 Apologize
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THE GAP IS JUST GETTING LARGER LMAO. I was genuinely worried in the morning because it showed CC to be several points higher than MAS. But holy shit
>>1014616 Earlier today it was over 50%. It has decreased a little bit. 50% is counted so far, but it's still not over.

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Anonymous 10/19/2020 (Mon) 19:19:19 No. 1013814 [Reply] [Last]
What even is imperialism? Is there any diffrence to realpolitic besides that the target is extremely weak?
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>>1014596 Al Szymanski had been a communist for decades when you weren’t even a bad drunken idea of your parents. Show some respect for your betters.
Imperialism in the most simple way to describe it is the ideology and process of building an empire.....or am I wrong?
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>>1014575 >Imperialism is only bad when the empires don't benefit anybody at all This is the point though. If it benefits both nations equally its not imperialism.
>>1014575 The Soviet Union gave so much aid to its allies that Zhivkov, the leader of Bulgaria joked that the Soviet Union was their colony.

News 10/19/20 News Anon 3.0 10/19/2020 (Mon) 21:01:54 No. 1014024 [Reply] [Last]
Bolivia: Political Figures Acknowledge Arce's Victory In The Polls Citizens Community Alliance (CCA) presidential candidate Carlos Mesa acknowledged the victory of the Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) and said that "the difference between the first candidate and the CCA is wide and it is up to us who believe in democracy to recognize that there has been a winner in this election.” https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/bolivia-several-figures-aknowledge-arces-victory-in-the-polls-20201019-0014.html COVID-19: PLO leader Saeb Erekat in ‘critical’ condition Prominent Palestinian leader Saeb Erekat is in a critical condition and his health has deteriorated as he undergoes treatment for COVID-19-related complications.Erekat, 65, was moved from his home in the occupied West Bank city of Jericho to Jerusalem’s Hadassah hospital on Sunday. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/19/erekat-on-ventilator-with-covid-19 https://archive.is/8vXqF Philippine Communist Leadership Orders Guerrillas to Go After Chinese Firms The outlawed Philippine communist party directed its armed wing on Wednesday to target Chinese companies involved in infrastructure projects, including state-backed firms that the United States has blacklisted for their part in Beijing’s militarization in the South China Sea. https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/philippine/Philippine-communists-Chinese-firms-10142020135808.html https://archive.is/MIMwD Facing terror charges, ETA’s last boss apologizes for deaths The last known chief of ETA, the now-extinct Basque separatist militant group, was back in court Monday in Paris to face terrorism charges that he deems “absurd” because of his role in ending a conflict that claimed hundreds of lives and terrorized Spain for half a century. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-zaragoza-paris-trials-violence-4bbc339d57007b302ec016d2fd960198

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Judge rejects Trump plan to end food stamps for 700,000 unemployed Americans A federal judge on Sunday formally struck down a Trump administration attempt to end food stamp benefits for nearly 700,000 unemployed people, blocking as "arbitrary and capricious" the first of three such planned measures to restrict the federal food safety net. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-administration-food-stamps-unemployed-americans-b1152337.html National Guard Spy Plane Monitored Racial Justice Protest in Sleepy Sacramento Suburb Where Commander Lives: Report The Los Angeles Times reports RC-26 reconnaissance planes were deployed to monitor protests in three major cities in early June: Washington, D.C., Phoenix, and Minneapolis, where police killed George Floyd, an unarmed Black man, on May 25. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/10/19/national-guard-spy-plane-monitored-racial-justice-protest-sleepy-sacramento-suburb Charlie Kirk Twitter Account Locked for Spreading Voting Misinformation to His 1.8 Million Followers Kirk, founder and president of Turning Point USA, a student-focused right-wing activism organization, confirmed on Sunday that he did not have access to his profile, telling Fox News he was in a "hostage situation" with the social networking platform. https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-1540146 https://archive.is/Q3Cmu Denver TV station security guard charged with murder A television station security guard accused of fatally shooting a pro-police demonstrator following opposing rallies was charged Monday with second-degree murder, according to the Denver district court clerk’s office. https://apnews.com/article/television-shootings-colorado-denver-us-news-97c845f419d43df7b7d896823d5de027

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Marking a heroic homecoming with pride JOURNALIST Martha Gellhorn, reporting on the volunteers who fought fascism in the Spanish civil war, wrote: “They were fighting for us all, against the combined force of European fascism. They deserved our thanks and our respect and got neither.”On Saturday, in towns and cities across Britain, communists and comrades chose to differ.In an overwhelming display of solidarity, gratitude and honour, they came with wreaths, flowers, flags and banners.Staging more than a dozen events, commemorating the homecoming of the International Brigaders in October 1938, the Communist Party of Britain (CPB) was supported by the International Brigade Memorial Trust (IBMT).In the face of Covid-19 restrictions changing at the last minute, plans were made and remade.Cheshire East Councillor Joy Bratherton was set to attend the Manchester event with colleague Mick Roberts from Unite, but as their home town of Crewe was blanketed in tougher measures, they laid wreaths at the memorial bench in the town’s cemetery honouring brigaders George Fletcher and Eddie McQuade.In Kingston-upon-Thames, a small group took to a boat on the river, remembering brigader Felicia Browne, the first British citizen to die, fighting with the Karl Marx militia in Aragon.Flowers in the vibrant red, yellow and purple of the Spanish Republican flag were cast into the Thames.In Middlesborough, too, a group walked to the Newport Bridge and cast their wreath into the river Tees.Martin Levy from the CPB said: “They fought because they had knew that if fascism was not stopped in Spain it would soon come knocking at our own door. The best way to honour the brigaders’ memory is to fight for peace and democracy and to build worldwide solidarity against imperialism.” https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/marking-heroic-homecoming-pride Welcome to the “Anarchist Jurisdiction” of New York — Where Cops Crush Every Tiny Protest ON SATURDAY night, the New York Police Department arrested nearly a third of a 300-person protest. Demonstrators had gathered in Times Square to call for the abolition of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, better known as ICE. The protesters did no more than march and chant. They stayed on the sidewalk. Police outnumbered them 3 to 1. One demonstrator told CNN that officers “descended from all sides” and “started ripping people off of the sidewalk.” There were 86 arrests.In the preceding days, small protest after small protest in New York had been crushed by overwhelming police force and aggressive arrests.Such is the state of unchecked liberation in this, the “anarchist jurisdiction” of New York City.Alongside Seattle and Portland, New York City earned the official “anarchist jurisdiction” label from Attorney General Bill Barr on Monday. Other cities under Democratic leadership are likely to be added to this farce of a naughty list, targeting areas where potent antiracist, antifascist protests have erupted this summer. The designations are the latest act in President Donald Trump’s theater of the absurd.Because of the designation, the localities now stand to lose significant federal funding. There’s no subtlety in Trump’s cynical base-pandering, aided once again by Barr’s Justice Department in service as the president’s private law firm. https://theintercept.com/2020/09/22/anarchist-jurisdictions-portland-new-york-seattle/ Chile: Looking Back on a Year of Uprising October 18, 2020 marks the one-year anniversary of the revolt in Chile. In Chile, the US, and beyond, we stand at the intersection of a pandemic, an economic crisis, and growing uprisings against the police. In this tangled situation, demands for police abolition erupt in a context in which many people imagine that only increased police intervention can manage this moment of crisis.In the US, at least at the level of street mobilizations, the growing desire to abolish the police has overshadowed concerns over a new stimulus package or a moratorium on evictions. It appears that the George Floyd uprising has produced a political crisis that eclipses any potential crisis that a nascent rent strike movement could have produced. Every time it seems the uprising dies down, another video of police murder goes viral and it erupts again with a new ground zero—Minneapolis, Louisville, Atlanta, Kenosha, Rochester. Large numbers of people are now concerned about community self-defense after suffering white supremacist violence and federal special forces’ brutality. Yet amid these new concerns, the ongoing economic crisis presents another unstable terrain for state surveillance, control, and repression. We offer the following reflections from the past year in Chile in an attempt to answer the question central to the global uprisings of 2019: “How can we contest territory in ways that render it ungovernable?” https://crimethinc.com/2020/10/15/chile-looking-back-on-a-year-of-uprising-what-makes-revolt-spread-and-what-hinders-it
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>Philippine Communist Leadership Orders Guerrillas to Go After Chinese Firms
thanks news anon

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Cultural Revolution 10/16/2020 (Fri) 00:54:55 No. 1003492 [Reply] [Last]
So that was a fucking mess.
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>>1003499 Are "revisionists" the ML "Jew"?
>>1003498 Mao was brain damaged. Anyone that says nuclear apocalypse is fine because "they can't kill us all!" should never be called anything close resembling the word "intellectual".
>>1013791 Did he really?
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>>1013791 >>1013813 You have it wrong. He was 100% right, the nuclear threats were paper tigers. They couldn't destroy China if they wanted it to serve their imperialist interests, and you can't let them get in the way of revolution.

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Anonymous 10/14/2020 (Wed) 23:08:19 No. 998711 [Reply] [Last]
I never see /leftypol/ discuss Ho Chi Minh. Why? He seems absolutely based.
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based vietanon 1v5ing these fucking nerds
>>1003980 Many people think that the founder of Confucianism is Confucius (孔夫子-Kǒng Fūzǐ or Master Kǒng). However, the fact that ideas of Confucianism formed before Master Kong at least 1500 years. Sima Qian wrote about the debate between Gaoyao and Yu about how to rule the country in the Records of the Grand Historian. Gaoyao's thought was expressed through his saying: "If a man sincerely follows the path of duty and virtue, his counsellors will be intelligent, and those who aid him will act in harmony". Meanwhile, Yu said that "I aim at being assiduous from day to day". He continued to expain "assiduous" that: "When the flood assailed the heavens, and in its vast expanse encompassed the mountains and overtopped the hills, so that the common people were overcome by the water, I travelled on dry land in a carriage, went about on the water in a boat, in miry places I used a sledge, while in going over the hills I used spikes. All along the hills I hewed paths through the woods, and together with Yi supplied the people with paddy and fresh meat. In order to drain the nine streams into the four seas, I deepened the channels and canals, and connected them with the rivers, and together with 'Millet' and the people in general when it was difficult to obtain food, and when food was scarce I bartered the surplus stock to make up for deficiencies, and removed the stores. Thus the people were quieted, and the various states properly governed". Gaoyao believed that rule of the country is basically based on virtue and duty - this is the early ideology of Confucianism. Yu believed that rule of the country needs to solve problems of nationality and livelihood such as floods, food, trade, irrigation, and reserves, "I bartered the surplus stock to make up for deficiencies" - this is the early ideology of Socialism. However, Confucianism splits into 2 branches. One branch that upholds the responsibility and duty of the inferiors (the people) towards the superiors (kings and nobles). The virtue of the inferiors is to obey orders from superiors. This branch formed the Neo-Confucianism or Song Confucianism ideology that has dominated China for the past thousand years. Another branch, on the other hand, emphasizes the superior's responsibility and duty towards their inferiors. The emperor and the mandarin must take care of the lives of their own people below, just like parents taking care of their children. This branch was once the more powerful branch of original Confucian thought, but it is increasingly overwhelmed by the opposing branch and is later completely overwhelmed by the Neo-Confucians on mainland China. Five hundred years before Confucius, The Duke of Zhou was credited with elaborating the doctrine of the Mandate of Heaven, which does not require a legitimate ruler to be of noble birth but how well that person can rule, depending on the just and able performance of the rulers and their heirs. Chinese dynasties such as the Han and Ming were founded by men of common origins, but they were seen as having succeeded because they had gained the Mandate of Heaven. The concept is in some ways similar to the European concept of the divine right of kings; however, unlike the European concept, it does not confer an unconditional right to rule. Intrinsic to the concept of the Mandate of Heaven was the right of rebellion against an unjust ruler. This shows that, in the original Confucian ideology, the emperor was not absolute power, and the people were also not obliged to serve unconditionally. People have the right to rebellion if their lives go down. (to be continued)
>>998761 There is some mostly on bannedthought.net https://www.bannedthought.net/Vietnam/index.htm
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>>998757 he literally slaughtered the trots, never forget ironic for a "stalinist" whose party would later side with krhushchev

Could the threat of global nuclear war be the glden opportunity for a global socialist revolution? Anonymous 10/18/2020 (Sun) 22:45:22 No. 1012581 [Reply] [Last]
Hear me out. I'm not trying to argue for this from the Posadist perspective of "lmao aliens", what instead I'm trying to do is to analyze what the next global imperialist conflict, which will certainly involve nukes. So, we know that capitalist imperialist countries are today facing an unprecedented crisis of low profitability and high income inequality, and that the only path of this crisis the imperial bourgeoisie knows is to keep expanding their empire to more and more land, at the same time there are also emerging competing imperial blocks that are more and more influence on the global stage like the European Union, Russia, India, potentially China, Japan, Turkey and last but not least Brazil, thus it's only a matter of time that all these imperial powers will enter into conflict with each other to decide who gets a bigger share of the pie. We also know that if there was a war to be fought between these countries it would involve nuclear mutually assured destruction and global societal collapse, thus it's not in anyone but the imperialist financial bourgoisie's (the so-called 1%) to enter such a war. In 1917, the bolshevik party in Russia successfully led a revolution against the Russian state and seized control of the state for the proletariat. They were successful for a myriad of reasons, but one reason in particular that really propelled their support forward among the widest base of the Russian people, even non-proletarians, was their opposition to the war. The key here is that all other parties, reactionary and reformist, were locked in a war that was pretty much devastating for the whole Russian nation, particularly the workers and the peasantry, and thus had the war continued on it would've spelled disaster for everyone. Thus the bolsheviks, the most popular anti-war party was supported in the revolution even by people who were not particularly invested in revolutionary socialism. Their slogan "Peace, land and bread" is what won the bolsheviks and the working class the revolution. Another point is a criticism Trotsky made of the USSR after its establishment which is that because it was developed on the backs of the undeveloped mass of peasantry and that it had to catch up with the rest of the world in terms of industrial production the development of socialism stagnated and opportunist and revisionist elements were able to take over the state and steer it back towards capitalism. This he attributes to the fact that the USSR was isolated from the rest of the world in the first half of its existence, thus he argues that the only path forward for socialism to prevail is for the revolution to happen all over the world and not be limited to one country. Of course due to the limitations the USSR found itself under and the global reaction it received from western imperialist countries the project of expanding socialism to the rest of the world was inherently limited. Thus, I arrive at this conclusion. -If global nuclear war is inevitable. -If it also posits a devastating and existential problem for the citizens (of which the workers are the absolute majority) of all the world. -If the imperialist financial bourgeoisie is the only class that would realistically support such a war. -If communist revolutionaries are historically most successful when they oppose imperialist wars, even more so when such wars are devastating for the majority of people. -And if socialism can only prevail when the majority of countries are able to successfully transition to socialism. Then that means that global socialist revolution can only happen if vanguard communist parties the world over oppose the coming global nuclear war. If nothing else, it will at least ensure that a majority of countries have turned to socialism and thus the rule of capital will be significantly weakened, thus it will be finally on the way out. What socialist countries especially have an advantage in over imperialist capitalist ones is solidarity and mutual aid which will definitely ensure that they will stand with each other while the old capitalist order tears itself into shreds.

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>>1013358 lol this mf means some garbage like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA
>>1013360 Nuclear weapons are a fascist fraud. Read Mao. >>1013426 Nothing to do with nuclear weapons, you're a retard.
>>1012581 >thus it's not in anyone but the imperialist financial bourgoisie's (the so-called 1%) to enter such a war. Interesting theory, is not possible to aim a few of those nukeboys at stock exchanges to incentivize peace.

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Anonymous 10/19/2020 (Mon) 11:40:36 No. 1013445 [Reply] [Last]
1. How and when were you red pilled on democracy? 2. How do I efficiently red pill liberals on democracy without having to write a 20 page long article and have them say "commie propoganda"?
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>>1013462 I've seen the video(and I think it's great) but the people who I'm trying to red pill is my country men. Who I imagine would speak almost to zero english. Maybe I should learn how to add subtitles.
Proletarian democracy
I was unironically almost born woke I read some children books on the history of feudalism, the start of the industrial revolution and labour unions, and made a proto marxist analysis that barely anything changed and that because there is corruption we dont have a democracy.
>>1013493 (when i was 8) (yes i was bullied a lot as a kid)
>>1013493 lmao fucking nerd

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/labourwave/ Anonymous 10/04/2020 (Sun) 04:29:26 No. 949697 [Reply] [Last]
We need a labourwave/anarchowave thread. I'll start.
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>>949697 These three are the best I've made thus far
>>982872 >red fash shut the fuck up
>>982906 >militaristic bullshit just the fuck up already hippie
>>1004381 >Mauzer the guy's pretty good
>>1013464 He posted this the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoCjUrVAFG0 Didn't even think to post it ITT, just put it in /DPRK/. Probably be more appreciated here.


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