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Anonymous 10/18/2020 (Sun) 01:49:26 No. 1011102 [Reply] [Last]
Time to take the pill that socialism is the destruction of the division of labor and surplus human labor, not "muh stateless classless moneyless" like you read on Wikipedia. Rather, what I mean to say is that your thinking process is fundamentally flawed. You should not be "aiming" for a classless moneyless society, rather you should be thinking about how do we destroy the human division of labor and surplus human labor, the rest will naturally arise through this.
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>>1011115 Yes. Which is why I'm saying destruction of the division of labor and surplus human labor. In itself, this will destroy the force of capital.
Wtf why did the mods pin this
>>1011149 dumbass
>>1011151 why commies hate their own country? i don't get it
>>1011155 Countries are a spook. Da zdravstvuet anarkhiya.

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Anonymous 10/22/2020 (Thu) 18:55:44 No. 1024131 [Reply] [Last]
Prove that you are not an braindead drone and say 1 positicve thing about capitalism.
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>>1024973 >So long as it is not possible to produce so much that there is enough for all, with more left over for expanding the social capital and extending the forces of production – so long as this is not possible, there must always be a ruling class directing the use of society’s productive forces, and a poor, oppressed class. How these classes are constituted depends on the stage of development.
>>1024131 It triggers commies
It's better than Feudalism
>>1025007 This pic is dumb. I don't see how you need Gucci and 400 billionaires to develop sufficient productive forces for socialism

KGB Manuals Anonymous 10/23/2020 (Fri) 01:23:29 No. 1025606 [Reply] [Last]
Links to KGB manuals - someone needs to translate them... Exposure of Enemy Set-ups (1971) https://drive.google.com/file/d/16t59k0G381jlasvlZM5i49MZ2wTnwsyA/view Original of Political Espionage from USSR Territory (1989) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XxulRAgcXO4XIFW-YrNhi57uzAx3dGwB Acquisition and Training of Agents (1988) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EesGYnEONyKHuApCNtCcDOm84ZxnLeRG Use of Soviet Cultural Committee (1968) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kbcWaaaEbxz_llFXHg9BRDtZKfo-xD1e Intelligence Targets Abroad (1970) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dWB8ak89PeNiQppP7IYNqc7FIO6TZmGM

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What is wrong with the modern left? Anonymous 10/15/2020 (Thu) 18:22:09 No. 1001935 [Reply] [Last]
Wanna know why the right is winning so hard right now? Cuz they have learned how to sell their ideology to boomers and normies by putting on a veneer of respectability and political viability. Fascists have learned to be nice and trick people into supporting them. Meanwhile, modern leftists have thought it brilliant to be as abrasive as possible, openly calling soldiers pussies and unironically singing the praises of China and the Soviet Union. Fascists demand to be taken seriously and capitalize on worker alienation. They dress well and speak assertively. Leftists seem to take pride in looking like bums and prefer to raise money for bourgeois children with gender dysphoria instead of addressing the needs of the working class in our age of globalization. Until the modern left realizes that they actually have to get non-socialists on board instead of lecturing them and telling them to read theory, the world will continue to head towards a cyberpunk dystopia.
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>>1021443 Nothing else will properly fix it son
>>1021493 >why even try its pointless and here comes the cop out, more proof anti idpol autists just don't want to actually do the work required and just romanticize failed fascist states with red flags and think endlessly repeating their mistakes will somehow result in global class conscious one day, you're just lazy and stupid and thankfully will never be in a position of political power.
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>>1021629 >failed fascist states with red flags <muh red fascists!!!!! LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO Again, you could've just admitted outright that you were a spineless liberal in your earlier posts, it would've saved a lot of time. Now go back to /r/Vaush, or better yet just kill yourself.
>>1021629 >failed fascist states with red flags and think endlessly repeating their mistakes You lost there lmao. USSR and Cuba were progressive for their time.
>>1002266 My problem with Soviet democracy is that instead of direct vote for Representatives all they way up the chain it only went to the regional level right?

Anonymous 10/22/2020 (Thu) 12:25:52 No. 1022769 [Reply] [Last]
This is your brain on Naziism.
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>>1023552 >>1023566 True but eating too much white bread doesn't butcher and oppress other creatures.
>>1023769 I think there could be some interesting analysis on this. America is BIG on assimilation and I think that's part of why our food is just a fatty facsimile of foreign cuisine. Are there any Marxist food critics?
>>1024896 >True but eating too much white bread doesn't butcher and oppress other creatures. Lol, anon, you sweet, naive anon.. I have something bad to tell you about agriculture and mono-crops.. You may want to sit down for this.
>>1023542 >are they trying to make anti-semitism looks idiotic they've been antisemitic for so long that they need the new shit. it's the nazi equivalent to going from percs to black tar heroin
>>1022769 >jews want to ruin people's eyesight for some fucking reason ok <making shitty style glasses fashionable and ruining my glasses fetish in the process wtf i'm nazbol now

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21st century Leninism Anonymous 10/05/2020 (Mon) 19:47:51 No. 956879 [Reply] [Last]
Since this theme is recurring more and more in various threads, I'm making this thread for anons to contribute. Post new (i'd say from the late 80s onwards) books that could be used to update the Ml framework of thought and explain why. To begin with, i'd say that the first two books in this work of updating Ml thought would be: 1) Towards a new socialism, P.Cockshott 2) Arguments for socialism, P.Cockshott 3) Imperialism in the 21st Century-John Smith Hoping to foster a discussion and for anons to contribute. Even posters for other tendencies are allowed as long as it's constructive critic and not sectarian bullshit.
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seems interesting. how accessible/worthwhile are these books for people who are sort of just getting into reading theory? i've only really read the manifesto, utopian and scientific, and am in the middle of state and revolution. is there anything i should read to offer better context to the books OP mentioned or is it just something i can pick up without much prior knowledge?
>>997840 still worth reading?
>>956879 dope ass thread
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>>1025032 Thanks anon
>>969525 I mean I like the podcast and all but they don't go into enough detail to really describe the concepts in the books. They also discuss these specific books because they're the most foundational to cybernetics and socialism.

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war in the Artsakh Anonymous 09/27/2020 (Sun) 10:14:04 No. 906343 [Reply] [Last]
The Azeri government just launched a coordinated strike, and the Armenians are mobilising.war comes. https://caucasus.liveuamap.com/
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>>1024421 Turks aren't Turkic it's just a meme. They're Greeks or some shit. t. saw a haplogroup infograph once
>>1024397 Communism is the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat. Nothing to with "suppressed people," a phrase so vague that glowies can apply it to whomever they please.
>>1024448 Anyone I don't like is glowie ep.12463
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>>1024162 Venezuela too, is buddy buddy with Erdodog

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Polcel collection Anonymous Comrade 10/02/2020 (Fri) 23:04:18 No. 966381 [Reply] [Last]
A thread for collecting polfaces since the pocels keep spamming the general on leftypol. Edit: By the way, the meme is on Know Your Meme. You can upload your edits there too. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poljak
Edited last time by ghostixo on 10/07/2020 (Wed) 21:38:30.
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>>1014783 >islamaphobia Gentlemen...
>>1022200 wahfags > genocucks
>>1023575 shut the fuck up
>>1022288 add in some climate denial or something
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>>1023575 Sorry, instead I will give you an anti-imperialist polcel pic.

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Immigration and multiculturalism Anonymous 10/22/2020 (Thu) 14:31:14 No. 1023007 [Reply] [Last]
>we welcome immigrants so much today our children are being blown apart at pop concerts >immigrants are coming here to take our jobs and kill us all How to argue against this?
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>>1024622 Why would I want an influx of backwards reactionaries into my country?
>>1024561 >that's not what people are upset about, people are upset about teachers being beheaded Beheading people is fucking gross and awful. There’s no defending it, but I think of it like this: The Chechen dude beheaded someone with a cold weapon, which probably limited his ability to hurt people, but lends itself to more horrifying optics. In the US, our teachers are killed by students with AR15’s and even then, we offload our violence against brown people to cops and border patrol. This isn’t to say that white people deserve to be beheaded because pf racism. But rather that people who’re horrified by beheadings and think “White Westerners don’t do this to other people” need to recognize that they do it all the time. The difference is that they’re all put in one group and the state gives them permission to do so.
>>1024657 >>1024657 >>1024657 >>1024657 I agree. That’s why we should keep Croats and Ukrainians out of other Western countries.
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>>1024561 >that's not what people are upset about, people are upset about teachers being beheaded I don't believe in coincidences. You know Turkey and France are fighting a proxy war in Libya and Macron recently ordered ships to the Eastern Mediterranean to flex on Erdogan, right? It has been in the news. You know Erdogan has operationalized jihadist militias for his buffer zone-of-control in Idlib and also routed some of those guys to Azerbaijan in the war with Armenia? Do you think the guy with the knife who beheaded that teacher was acting alone? Well, maybe he was. But maybe this could be a signal. France is flexing on Turkey and then one day a teacher in Paris just gets beheaded. Maybe a metro station blows up. Now people are terrified of taking the subway. Did the Turkish intelligence services do it? "No, we didn't do that... wasn't us..." Do you believe they're capable of something like that?

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Nazi racism Anonymous 10/22/2020 (Thu) 06:12:08 No. 1022167 [Reply] [Last]
A common misconception by holocaust deniers is that Hitler was just this cool guy who loved blacks. He shook Jesse Owens' hand and all. Really? >African German mulatto (a person of mixed white and Black ancestry) children were marginalized in German society, isolated socially and economically, and not allowed to attend university. Racial discrimination prohibited them from seeking most jobs, including service in the military. With the Nazi rise to power they became a target of racial and population policy. By 1937, the Gestapo had secretly rounded up and forcibly sterilized many of them. Some were subjected to medical experiments; others mysteriously “disappeared.” https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/afro-germans-during-the-holocaust Here's further elaboration on their experiments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_genocide#Medical_experiments_and_scientific_racism In present day Namibia before Germany lost her colonies with the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 following WWI, German soldiers mass raped and genocided the indigenous peoples of Namibia. Dr. Eugene Fischer conducted medical experiments on children born from these rapes. His conclusion was that children born out of bi-racial unions were “inferior” to their German fathers. His research inspired Adolf Hitler and in the 1930s, Fischer taught his racist theories to Nazi doctors. One of his students, Joseph Mengele, was responsible for the medical experiments in the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp. In fact, in the second pic, it shows the head of a Shark Island prisoner, which was later used in medical experimentation. Most notorious of all was the Shark Island camp physician, Dr Hugo Bofinger. He carefully decapitated the bodies of 17 prisoners, including a one-year-old girl. After breaking open the skulls he removed and weighed the brains before placing each head in preserving alcohol and sealing them in tins for export to the University of Berlin. There they were used in experiments to prove the similarity between the Nama people and anthropoid apes in a terrible prefiguring of the darkest race experiments of Josef Mengele, the Nazi 'Angel of Death', who similarly sent body parts from Auschwitz back to Berlin. Aside from experimentation on blacks, you also have Hilarius Gilges, who was lynched in Germany in 1933. Here's some more examples of the Nazi program towards blacks:

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>>1024612 he's so ugly with that double chin
>>1023006 >unironic ms paint graph
>>1023006 ACTUAL Nazi here. Hitler was an amazing guy who did drugs, made cool art and fucked his niece, and loved whipping his dog into submission, THAT is why we love the guy. Don’t listen to anything this degenerate says
>>1024694 if you're still unironically far right in 2020 this is how you look like
>>1024661 Lmao.

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