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Anonymous 10/19/2020 (Mon) 01:41:44 No. 1012755 [Reply] [Last]
Why are so many chuds obsessed with japan?
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>>1012797 Disagree. Japan barely have an army and a police force. Germany has an actual army and several militarized police units which are full the brim with neonazis.
>>1012755 isn't Japan like their China? An unpopular opinion that they're still fascistic while most /pol/acks wish it could return to the good ol days.
>>1012783 kek, congrats on completely missing the point of the anime you utter retard.
>>1013355 Who is he?
>>1013238 >just look at the contrast between japs and koreans >it's like greeks and copycat romans all over again the fuck are you talking about?

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What do you think of Democratic Socialists of America? Anonymous 10/21/2020 (Wed) 20:58:38 No. 1020725 [Reply] [Last]
I know a lot of people here like to fantasize about revolution and shit but, to be honest, there are no noteworthy revolutionary organizations in the United States at the moment. The largest socialist organization in the United States is the Democratic Socialists of America, with about 70,000 members. Here are some perks about DSA: -Largest socialist organization in the U.S. -Massive growth in recent years, from less than 10,000 in 2016 to more than 70,000 as of August 2020 -Multi-tendency (DemSocs, LibSocs, Marxists), so a good vehicle for left unity -Works with labor unions, community organizations, student activists, and other progressive organizations -Elected 2 members to the House of Representatives in 2018 (3 members currently serve in the House), and at least 2 more have won the 2020 Democratic primaries -More than a dozen members elected to State legislatures since 2018 -Engages in anti-fascist activity -Closest thing to a proper left-wing party in the U.S. So are you going complain about muh electoralism online while your revolutionary organizations do nothing but larp and remain irrelevant or are you going to support a rapidly-growing organization that is actually getting shit done?
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>>1021688 DPRK remains,but this tendency towards liberal capitalist restoration is definitely a problem. Trotsky was right to vote that trade unions should be militarized to form the proletarian state For his immense flaws, I see the germ of the solution in Mao's cultural revolution. The mass line and democratization of the party paired with our modern persuasive design of cybernetic systems of distribution seems like it will be capable of replacing and holding accountable most of the party bureaucracy and moving towards a very individual yet concerted socialism with high resistance to counter-revolution. >>1021717 The ML states are state-capitalist, which is a huge difference from the anarchic(not as in anarchism) production of liberal capitalism. Their capital loop was designed to try to move as quickly as possible in building up the value of constant and variable capital, to reach the levels of production that would form the base of socialism. For the parts of the world forced into underdevelopment, this is a major advance, but still not the goal Does the democratic economy you describe exclude private property rights? How do you seek to build it?
Aren't they literally cops lmfao?
Would be interested in what economic action DSA has promoted besides just infiltrating unions - like an actual push for reducing wage hours or repealing anti-union laws
>>1021921 >Does the democratic economy you describe exclude private property rights? How do you seek to build it? There would be no private property, but there would, of course, be personal property. I'm not opposed to individual ownership of land or housing or whatever so long as the owner is the only one who depends on it. >How do you seek to build it? That is something I haven't quite figured out. I have tried to move past the reform-or-revolution paradigm, and instead focus on whatever methods are available to build a democratic economy. They can include things like labor organizing, tenant organizing, paramilitaries, and electoral activity. One thing I've thought is that organizations that plan to bring about socialism should be structured to resemble the socialist institutions they seek to bring about. For example, labor unions should be structured to resemble the sort of democratic workplace that its members seek to create. The goal would then be for the unions to eventually build up enough to power to kick out the bosses and take over their workplaces. I believe that was what the National Confederation of Labor (CNT) did during the 1936 Spanish Revolution. I suspect the CNT could be a good model for other unions to follow. I would advocate a similar approach for tenants that I advocate for wage laborers, but taking over rental properties rather than workplaces. I think labor unions have a big role to play influencing electoral politics too. For example, if a government is unwilling to enact a policy that is popular among the working class (like Medicare for All in the U.S.), unions can conduct a general strike to ensure that the government does what it wants. Bear in mind that capitalists use capital strikes to protest policies they don't like, so the working class would basically be copying a common tactic they use.
>>1021921 >Mass line >Participation via cybernetics >Arming the people How can someone read this and not think this is the way to go for Marxists in the 21st century?

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Trotsky Anonymous 10/07/2020 (Wed) 16:34:37 No. 965087 [Reply] [Last]
Explain to me why you hate this man and his followers. What are the things he said you disagree with?
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>>1002133 >muh Stalin betrayed the revolution in Spain!!!! The USSR was literally the only nation aside from Mexico that actually sent aid to the Republicans you retard, he didn't betray shit. Meanwhile the anarchists thought it would be a good idea to just fuck around in Catalonia during the war, and never even won a single battle against the Francoists.
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>>965308 >literal isolated fascist monarchy okay
>>1021620 Trotskyist comrades This man is embarrassing you could you do the honours of educating him?
>>1021620 Real vaush hours

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News 10/21/20 News Anon 3.0 10/21/2020 (Wed) 19:14:47 No. 1020330 [Reply] [Last]
UK Allocated £450,000 To Opponents of Venezuela's Government Declassified UK journalists revealed that the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office (FCDO) awarded £ 450,000 to “Transparencia Venezuela”, an organization using the fight against corruption as a front to support the destabilizing actions that opposition politician Juan Guaido has been carrying out against the administration of President Nicolas Maduro. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/UK-Allocated-450000-To-Opponents-of-Venezuelas-Government-20201021-0003.html Warring sides in Libya agree to avoid escalation, open land & sea routes during UN-backed peace talks Libya’s warring factions have signed off on a plan to open the country’s land and sea routes, amid ongoing negotiations backed by the United Nations. The breakthrough could be the first step towards securing a ceasefire. https://on.rt.com/asyi Chilean Communist Party calls for new constitution ahead of Sunday's crucial vote Victory in the poll would mark a decisive break with the current constitution which was controversially introduced in 1980 under the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/chilean-communist-party-calls-new-constitution-ahead-sundays-crucial-vote Arce to Restore Relations With Cuba and Venezuela, Blasts OAS "We are going to reestablish all relations. This government has acted very ideologically, depriving the Bolivian people of access to Cuban medicine, Russian medicine, and advances in China. For a purely ideological issue, it has exposed the population in a way unnecessary and harmful," Arce explained. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Luis-Arce-Extends-a-Hand-To-Cuba-and-Venezuela-Warns-About-OAS-20201020-0024.html Montenegro's farmers & environmental protesters ruin army's plans for mortar shelling exercises

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>>1020447 Shut the fuck up and thank news anon you cretin
ty newsanon
>>1020599 I wondered this too
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Thanks news anon
>>1020330 thanks news anon!!

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Anonymous 10/20/2020 (Tue) 21:11:11 No. 1016818 [Reply] [Last]
Why the fuck do Nazis care about Jews so fucking much? They'll denounce anything if it even has the tiniest trace of jews they'll go balls up (if they have any) and shit all over it. I don't understand anything about it, as if it's just an impulse, with no fucking reason whatsoever.
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>>1016818 Jews codeswitch. When it is advantageous, they pretend to be white to engage in seemingly self directed criticism of white xenophobia, racially guided economic preferences, and nationalist tendencies to obfuscate their long time involvement in the exploitative capitalist system. They peddle "woke" sentiment, masquerading as white liberals from their positions of capital, both economic and social. They will not correct public assumptions that they are white as long as it continues to benefit them, freely enjoying the ingroup preferred business and social opportunities available to them. Likewise, when it is disadvantageous to be white they codeswitch back to being Jewish. They will deny white identity to separate themselves from, and claim victimization by, the strawman identity of whiteness they previously inhabited to escape blame. Nazis hate Jews because they play the same game, just better. They have an ethnostate which has nearly eradicated the indigenous population to clear out their lebensraum, have strong ingroup preferences at the expense of others, and have a secure racial future because their culture highly discourages conversion and outbreeding. Jews get the best of both worlds: they can engage in viciously predatory socioeconomic activity while maintaining a guise of a helpless and downtrodden minority.
>>1021245 >Zionists are the same as all Jews, and all Jews are secretly Zionists As much as I hate wokefags, most young wokefags that happen to be Jewish are critical of Israel.
Rafiqpost on nazi anti-semitism. Check out Moishe Postone's little piece on anti-semitism. Dialectic of Enlightenment also has a chapter on anti-semitism. The last one is my favorite because it goes into different types of anti-semitism and the motivations behind each.
>>1021245 this is retarded. you're just describing different types of people. the wokie "jooz r pee oh cee!!!!" or the antizionist left types aren't the fucking bankers or west bank settlers.

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Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari Anonymous 10/21/2020 (Wed) 17:47:29 No. 1020014 [Reply] [Last]
>inb4 muh revisionism >inb4 muh cia agents What does /leftypol/ think of their books, ideas, concepts? Should we be more schizo? I am a theorylet but there is an alluring mystique around these two. I heard that Zizek and Althusser heavily critiqued these guys.
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>>1021345 Lacan gang rise up
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>>1021119 EXPLAIN DELEUZE TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN DELEUZE TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOU! WHAT THE FUCK IS A BODY WITHOUT ORGANS? WHAT THE FUCK ARE RHIZOMES? DON'T DUMB IT DOWN OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU
>>1021374 >FUCK IS A BODY WITHOUT ORGANS? Nonsense >WHAT THE FUCK ARE RHIZOMES? How plants that spread vegetatively through their roots propagate, so each new sprout is connected by roots to the other older sprouts
>>1020192 >Greatly superior series of videos I noticed you didn't post the best one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgh9hMgSKEM&list=PLD1szxop5A91gPCci-enrKnBfOBriemru
>>1020014 >Should we be more schizo? Capitalism is already peak schizo, the thing-in-itself vs commodity fetish, both being held as one contradictory reality that creates false consciousness.

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2200 Anonymous 10/19/2020 (Mon) 08:15:31 No. 1013150 [Reply] [Last]
The Year is 2200. The working class has been defeated and the barbaric mode of production is in full swing. The world is essentially a combination of blade runner in the cities and mad max in the isolated parts as climate change has ruined the planet, causing starvation, mass extinction, and desertification of most places except high mountainous regions, Canada, and Scandanavia, which now control 90% of the worlds arable land and this food supply, other than what is grown in artificial greenhouses for the ultrarich. You have several options: 1. Cyberpunk - fight the system through trying to do mr robot shit 2. Corporate Goon - work for the megacorps as a hired thug 3. Road Warrior - Mad max car gang shit 4. GTFO - steal whatever, do whatever the fuck you have to do to get the 20 million dollars to pay for a ticket to Alpha Centauri Colony where you can restart your life 5. Kill yourself - you can't handle this world so you check out 6. Scientist - you try to undo the damage using muh science 7. Agitator/Union leader - you lead the other warehouse bezos-slaves in a revolt against the megacorps. 7. Something else (explain)
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>>1013150 >5. Kill yourself - you can't handle this world so you check out
Go back a mode of production and go with feudalism.
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I'd like to be a Cyberpunk Road Warrior GTFO Agitator.
7. Mix guerilla warfare with mechs like in anime.
7. stillborn

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Anonymous 10/19/2020 (Mon) 19:24:03 No. 1013824 [Reply] [Last]
Why is the fashoids argument against Marx is: mARx iS jEWisH!!!
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They are so far up their own asscrack and inside their own echo chamber that they think pointing out the few token jews in an orginisation or someone who happens to be jewish is enough to discredit it. It should not be surprising to see jews be visible in left wing organisations if they both made up 2% of the european population (one out of every 50 people) and being oppressed by the ruling classes of their countries.
>>1013824 If you don't have loyalties to a country, then it's destruction is of no issue.
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Because their minds are so broken they think this means anything to most people
>>1013846 Jews helping nazies,i feel like im in an other reality

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Anonymous 10/21/2020 (Wed) 07:10:40 No. 1018645 [Reply] [Last]
Fellow borgerland anons, what do you guys think the chances are if Biden wins of the average radlib basic socdem ass left leaning person just resigning to a feeling of victory and thinking either they don't need to do anything more or are just gonna stress on electoralism for everything and not stress anything else? It seems like that's just the constant dance this country has been doing for decades. Im getting the opportunity soon to leave this place and I might just never come back
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>>1020642 Fuck I meant liberals AREN'T going to fix anything, but leftists are.
Shut the fuck up doomer
>>1020660 quality thread contribution, thanks
>>1020642 BLM isn't a class movement, and Bernie mostly rose through 2016. Which isn't to say that there wasn't some hints of leftist growth during the Obama years, but it was very muddled and indeterminate. OWS was its zenith, rhetoric around the "1%" was virtually all of its content. But it was muddled because OWS didn't have a clear working class program, so people projected all kinds of shit onto it. Even libertarians were often favorable towards it, seeing it as an attack on government cronyism. It seems like Biden is inevitable at this point because Trump fucked up way too much, but I think a Trump win probably would have been more destabilizing, and in my mind instability is opportunity. Obviously you don't want instability in the Libyan sense, but I don't think the US is heading that way. I just think the second Trump win would have seen people ripping their hair out and contemplating whether or not to call a constitutional convention or something. When RBG died you already had some liberal blue checks taking court packing much more seriously, but that is still at the margins mostly. The real dinosaur establishment does not want to upset the political order of things an inch more. They're very nervous that instability in the integrity of state institutions will cause more debate at the level of high politics about deep government reforms which could prove damaging to them in the long term.

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Anonymous 10/21/2020 (Wed) 22:31:55 No. 1021094 [Reply] [Last]
Ignoring Reddit, where does bunkerchan rank in forums with the most "communist" curious users?

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