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Occupy Wallstreet Anonymous 10/20/2020 (Tue) 23:53:14 No. 1017518 [Reply] [Last]
Occupy Wallstreet What went wrong? What are the Positives?
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>>1018132 >>1018185 how does that comment make me a /pol/yp you retard?
>>1018068 what did white women co-opt in OW?
>>1018395 nothing, that was pre wokeness. wokeness only really accelerated around 2013-2014
>>1017518 The Occupy Movement was a failure short-term, but was honestly the beginning of the modern leftist movement in the United States. Firstly, shifted the topics of political discourse. Things like income inequality, unemployment, student debt, and homeless became much more popular political topics. Socialist organizations, most notably Democratic Socialists of America, have swelled in membership. We had a self-professed socialist run for president president for two elections in a row now, garnering lots of votes and media attention along the way. 3 DSA members currently serve in U.S. Congress, up from 1 just 2 years ago. At least 1 or 2 more have won the 2020 Democratic primaries. More than a dozen have been elected to state legislatures in the past few years. Strike activity in 2018 and 2019 is at its highest level since the 1980s. Basically, the U.S. went from having virtually no noteworthy leftist movement before the Occupy Movement, to having a small one. It may not seem like much, but it's something. Always remember, building a powerful political movements takes time and patience. You can't expect these sorts of things to just spring up and succeed.
>>1018470 I’d go further and say that occupation protest aren’t supposed to be like permanent communes. They will theoretically end. (Keeping in mind that there are ways for them to end well and to end poorly, too.)

Anonymous 10/23/2020 (Fri) 16:10:50 No. 1028490 [Reply] [Last]
I have a question anons. Is there any other word for socialist or leftist available? Saying I'm a socialist is a instant turn off in a debate considering all the shit people get fed. Any new terms, old terms, or created terms?
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Anything but "communist" is cucked shit.
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I just go full "I AM BECOME ONE WITH THE STALIN. I BRING THE BATINA TO ALL."
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees Anonymous 11/06/2019 (Wed) 08:21:01 No. 117378 [Reply] [Last]
Második felvonás!
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Öööö.... úgy tűnik, hogy a Fideszt nem egy valamiféle tényleges baloldal vagy teszem azt a munkások fogják megdönteni, hanem a középosztály és az olyan középosztályi érzületek mint az illedelmesség vagy az ízlésesség. Lehet hogy ezzel nem értetek egyet, de sajnos nincs jogotok ellenkezni vagy akármilyen módón érvelni, mert TGM ezt mondta. Bocsi de ez van
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>>1028409 >Autoriter, keményvonalas baloldali Mér', milyen van még?
>>1028919 Nem hallottál még a decentralizált központi tervezésről és kivégzőosztagokról?

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Poland hate trade: abortion practically illegal Anonymous 10/23/2020 (Fri) 06:44:19 No. 1026965 [Reply] [Last]
So the Polish constitutional court just ruled that abortion is illegal, except in cases of incest, rape or when the woman's life is in danger. When one thinks, that Poland can't get any worse, they manage to become even worse. I wonder how a katoliban state such as Poland even manage to have a communist party ....
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>>1029551 fair enough, but a lot of nazi attempts to make their murder legal was like putting lipstick on a pig. The general Nazi MO was to kill first and legalize after the fact, which is what characterized their regime from 1933 to 1939.
>>1029547 It’s a societally determined social construct only useful when we already accept certain ethics regarding the life of other, often times, highly conscious beings. Even in this extremely pliable definition you’re out of step with what the dominant view of murder is, though. It should be you telling me what you think it is.
>>1029565 Why does it matter though? I have already made the edgy statement that I am for late term abortion because I consider abortion having more social utility than not. But of course people would find this egregious and I don't to proselytizing my views in real life, so I would accept whatever the rest of society accepts, which is probably first trimester. Perhaps the most reasonable, in my opinion, would be any stage before 20 to 22 weeks, which is the earliest period a baby can be born early and still have a chance of survival. But statistically (lol) a baby's chance of survival outside the womb increases weekly. So a baby born 24 weeks, for example, will statistically be more likely than one at 20 weeks, which, if I'm not mistaken, is the current boundary at which a baby can live. With all this in mind, I'd say 20-30 weeks is probably acceptable (I'm not familiar with preterm survival rates between 20 and 30 weeks, I am just going off with what I've heard in lectures).
>>1029579 alright so the stats are as follows: Chances of survival following preterm birth Medical advances mean that we are getting better at treating preterm babies but the chances of survival still depend on gestational age (week of pregnancy) at time of birth. Less than 22 weeks is close to zero chance of survival 22 weeks is around 10% 24 weeks is around 60% 27 weeks is around 89% 31 weeks is around 95% 34 weeks is equivalent to a baby born at full term. https://www.tommys.org/our-organisation/why-we-exist/premature-birth-statistics
>>1029283 during ww1 and ww2 their was a higher fertility rate then right now

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Is 4chan's Trump worship genuine or is it just to "own the left"? Anonymous 10/23/2020 (Fri) 19:05:45 No. 1028967 [Reply] [Last]
Seriously, I've always found their support of him strange. I mean, if it's simply because they think it's funny for a retard like him to be president then I can kinda see that. However, they seem to genuinely love him to the point where any criticism of the man is met with fury. It's also strange how the stormfags there constantly dickride him to hell and back despite Trump being one of the most Zionist presidents in recent memory. I mean, it has to be one big joke that the site is in on, right?
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Your question presupposes that the contradictions of 4chan's Trump worship -- because it doesn't make sense -- must have some kind of resolution where either X or Y is true, rather than the contradiction being inherent to the Trump worship. It can be both genuine and just to "own the left." It can be both a big joke, and completely serious. It can be both white nationalist and Zionist.
It was genuine. If they otherwise at this point, it’s just evidence they’re in full damage control mode.
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Reaction to imperial decline. Americans are raised from birth to believe that America will always grow stronger and their own conditions will improve, and for much of its history, that did happen -- but since the financial crisis (although you might be able to go back further), the relative power of the United States has been shrinking a little bit every year. This kind of imperial propaganda / brainwashing is particularly compelling to white men in the U.S. who are Trump's largest group of voters and have always seen themselves on top of the world. Remember the Iran nuclear deal that Trump exited? The U.S. under the Obama administration wanted a rapprochement with Iran, ending sanctions in exchange for Iran not pursuing a nuclear weapon, stabilizing the situation and providing cover for the U.S. to withdraw from the Middle East. The nation-state that opposed the deal most strongly was, of course, Israel. Trump being elected on a platform in part to tear up that deal represents an intensification of the imperial project, in league with Israel, although U.S. power is nevertheless still in relative decline. This is why the Trump ideology of "America First" and withdrawing from international agreements and institutions is a renewed assertion of American rogue-state unilateralism in the world despite whatever isolationaist gloss is painted over it. As it goes abroad, so it goes at home. I think a lot of /pol/ types see Trump as a vehicle for the reassertion of white male dominance in U.S. society. Domestic reactionaries who feel their relative social status in the society -- relative to other Americans -- is in decline, probably for much the same reasons American imperial power abroad is in the decline. Their social position is a product of the empire and it's in their interest to maintain it. But the old must give way to the new. Jeff Bezos is wealthier than ever and Amazon is expanding its capacity by 50% just this year on top of everything else they've built. What use does he have for the domestic empire except as a market to sell products to?
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Mao: >Dialectics is the teaching which shows how opposites can be and how they happen to be (how they become) identical -- under what conditions they are identical, transforming themselves into one another, -- why the human mind should take these opposites not as dead, rigid, but as living, conditional, mobile, transforming themselves into one another.
You can go back to mid 2000s republican talk radio. People like Rush Limbaugh whose mode of thought was essentially always do the opposite of what the dems do. Owning the libs epic style has only emboldened.

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The fuck is up with leftist youtube Anonymous 10/12/2020 (Mon) 00:35:48 No. 985499 [Reply] [Last]
>leftist youtube channel. <A hour and fourty minutes long video about analizing the new superhero movie through a marxist lense. <A month passes. <Another one. <Another one. <He posts a video. Another hour and fourty minutes video, but now talking about the new series that it's hitting it on Netflix and how it is somehow eugenic or something i dunno. >Rightwing youtube channel. <Posts 3 videos a day. <Posts about relevant stuff happening around in their country, follows the current news and talks about them. <Actually does something for their movement (keep them "informed"). <Because of him posting 3 times a day, youtube favorites his content. <Actually drives new people into the alt-right thanks to profiting form the algorithm. Please shut the fuck up, I don't fucking care if Mad Max's dog is an actual reference towards the rate of profit or if the roman larpers from actually a fucking great game a shitty game are hegelian or some shit, shut the fuck up for the love of god shut the fuck up shut the fuck up. Right now the best move for the leftist movement worldwide would be if news anon made a youtube channel, for fucks sake. But seriously, why this need to over-analyze everything? Do you remember when actual communist talked about what they were concerned with? You know, a new labour law passing court, or a development inside of a communist party which they didn't like, or just reporting what's happening around the world, instead of wanking their egos on how much they now about fucking consumer cinema and useless frankfurt school knowledge? I fucking don't because that was decades, some may say a century. I've been living in this hell for all of my life and now discovered it.

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>>1011259 Civilization is detrimental to nature. Return to monke
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Hi anon I am the editor of new Multitude (http://www.newmultitude.org a magazine that is somewhat based on leftypol content and user submissions from here. I have been reaching out for the past two weeks on the board for people who would like to write serious essays for us. Have you noticed this? https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/1013137.html I have also posted a couple of time in the generals such as europe, africa, lat, sea asking if people there would want to contribute something. So far the response has been nothing. So I am very glad to see this post from someone who wants to write! my email is attached to this message, please let me know what you want to write about!
>>1011259 >t. wants to turn back time
Who's reviewing capeshit through a Marxist lens? Sounds cool.
You're mad that other people like stuff you don't like. Chill. It has nothing to do with you. Only that you identify as a leftist and see these youtube channels as also being in that category. That doesn't mean you have to like those channels, it's absurd to get mad. Watch channels you like, and if you don't like anything, stay off youtube.

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Anonymous 10/22/2020 (Thu) 15:28:24 No. 1023210 [Reply] [Last]
HEY WAGIE It's time to wake up! Your 1 hour of sleep is over! Your lunch break will be in 10 hours. Don't complain that it's just a slab of bread. I'm a job creator and I need to save money to create jobs.
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Tick tock wage cuck
>>1029091 I laughed hard but I still hate this video. Fuck whoever wrote this ;_;
>>1023527 Sounds like a decent Kino song tbh
>>1029099 >i will be home in 20 minutes Damn,cuts deep...
>>1029091 shit now I want to kill myself

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Why /pol/acks love to cope everyday? Anonymous 10/16/2020 (Fri) 00:59:55 No. 1003505 [Reply] [Last]
Happy Indigenous Day, folks. Sorry if it's too late. Seriously what do you think of using genetical engineering, DNA improvement, or eugenics to reeducate those imbeciles? Fuck, I hate it. Inferiority complex attitude everyday. Why people love to cope & cuck themselves? Please, give me your best memes regarding our cuckold material conditions. Thank you.
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>>1003707 You say this as though it wasn’t a massive tragedy that perpetuated a system of hatred, misery, and subjugation.
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>>1017695 >>1018211 >Europeans were already colonizing people for centuries before then. more like getting colonized, the khan the huns the umayyads and the bubonigs say hi
>>1028986 Umayyad barely got into europe you fucking idiot, sure Spain but what a retard you are
>>1017695 >>1017710 I neglected to mention that obesity also makes your dick smaller. The same principle behind skinny people getting drunk faster than fat people also applies to hormones. High fat and high body mass forces your body to produce more testosterone to keep the body developing sexually, but it decreases penis size generally because the ramped-up test production doesn't always work.
>>1029135 Also high cholesterol/plaque buildup decreases blood circulation which includes the dorsal artery which leads to the penis. Not only does fat lower average hormone levels, it deprives your cock of blood flow, including oxygen for your muscle to grow.

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Anonymous 10/15/2020 (Thu) 17:01:36 No. 1001646 [Reply] [Last]
inb4 lurk moar I am a right leaning, middle class white dude. Why has the modern left vilified me instead of trying to win me over? I don't hate anyone, I dislike Trump, I think the corporate robber barons should hang and the middle class life should be what you strive to live. Why isn't there a more concentrated effort from you guys to try and win people like me over? Every single day I move further right and I hate it. Edit: Un-anchored, because OP seems genuine.
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>>1026834 >I mean, any system or nation can be overwhelmed by too many people. How weird, there's more than enough food and houses to provide it to everyone in the US... and yet there are still thousands of homeless working class people or people who have to rent a shitty apartment, and some can't even eat 3 times a day. >>1026731 Wrong The most important cause of mass migration is imperialism (exploitation of a smaller, less developed country by a powerful one), which includes things like stealing natural resources (often selling the finished products back to the population), borderline slavery (putting factories there for much cheaper labor than in the richer country) and war (causes chaos and destruction, and usually comes with human rights violations against innocents by the imperialists). To help with this process, the imperialist power has to destabilize the country so that it will be allowed to do as it pleases there; this can be achieved by backing coups and friendly candidates, declaring a war on some made up problem (war on drugs, war on terrorism, etc. all of which are also created or backed by the imperialist power in the first place), placing embargoes, spreading imperialist propaganda in and outside the country, sending undercover agents or provocateurs to incite violence among the populace or damage a group's reputation, sabotage industries, etc. And this can all be used to justify an intervention and straight up take total control of the country. It's only after all this that the shit you said matters. Who wouldn't want to flee to a safer, richer country after theirs has been obliterated by a world power? But as long as these things don't happen, most people won't even think about leaving their homeland. And you can bet your ass that those "free benefits" that some countries like Gringoland give to jobless people only help attract migrants from war-torn, corrupt shitholes, and that's good for those at the top, because mass immigration causes wages to go down or stagnate while prices keep going up, so they keep getting richer. Tensions also keep growing between the migrants and non-migrants, and this can manifest in a variety of ways such as racial, religious, linguistic classist or political discrimination and hatred, which transforms into ultra-nationalism and xenophobia (along with overly pro-migrant sentiments to oppose it), distracting the masses from the real cause of these problems. And guess what? The rich don't give a shit about the problems of either group of people, they don't care about the bombed schools in the Middle East where hundreds of kids died, or the decapitations and disappearances in Mexico and El Salvador at the hands of narco-regimes, or the people who are escaping from such things, or the Americans who are losing their jobs or not getting a good enough salary to cover their most basic needs, and those who have to resort to crime to survive, and those who suffer for those crimes. All the better for them. They just don't care about us. Their power depends on the ignorance of the masses. And yes, overpopulation can sometimes be a problem, but with efficient planning (for the benefit of the people, not the rich) and low corruption levels things can go smoothly. Especially when considering the technology we have now, "overpopulation" is not an excuse for inefficiency, lack of jobs and low quality of life in 99% of cases. If it ever becomes a genuine problem, it can be solved with family planning like what China did with its "1 child per couple" policy. I'd recommend this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3NtIiBjPsE
>>1001915 Define idpol. I’m not gonna sperg out and say that if you won’t write “TRANS RIGHTS”, then you’re transphobe, but we have trans comrades and minority comrades of all stripes. The problems that affect the above can be traced back to porky protecting their class interest. The concept of race was literally made up to justify the commodification of black people, and then used by white porkies to foster A false consciousness with white workers. But that don’t mean much to people who know the history of (in all honestly bougie) trade unions excluding black folks and/or calling for the deportation of chinese immigrants. Communism, of course, has the answer For them. Under communism, trans people will have the resources to get HRT and other necessary medical needs met, and workers of all colors and creeds can join together in solidarity against their real common oppressor. Like what happened with the Based AF Rainbow Coalition under Fred Hampton. Idpol libs OTOH, think that if the ruling class becomes more representative, then that means things are more “fair”, even if it doesn’t meet the needs of the majority of uiggas and transhumanists.
>>1004437 Have y’all ever read “Roadside Picnic?” Or watched “Come and See?” Hell, even comedies like “the Diamond Arm“ or “Ivan Vasilievich changes professions” and “Russian Sherlock Holmes.” Brezhnev literally interrupted Politburo meetings (IIRC) to watch Seventeen Moments of Spring.
>>1026813 The CPI was the longest ruling democratic party in a noncommunist country in history.
>>1029083 be careful you are potentially trying to make ideologically based medical prescriptions. This happened before. We had the logic of: gay-person therefor electroshock treatment. To avoid potentially harming people the logic has to be: medical diagnosis therefore medical treatment. Doctors have to prove their treatments improve the health of their patients. It is very important to do this the correct way for irreversible medical interventions.

/Lat!/ Anonymous 09/05/2020 (Sat) 01:00:37 No. 840293 [Reply] [Last]
coño Hilo Anterior: >>483387
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>>1024182 mas que nada por este buen hombre, ademas la mayoria troskos y algunos ML son los unicos movimientos ideologicos que no estan metidos en el ala del peronismo, si hay otra cosa es muyyyyyyyy chica
Nuevo video de Ahí les Va https://youtu.be/LQGLLs5hP30 Victoria del MAS en Bolivia deja en evidencia el papel de los medios en el ‘fraude’ 54%! Que maravilla, ¡que sufran los liberales!
>>1024182 mataron a todos los de izquierda que hacían algo durante la dictadura, solo quedaron los troskos
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1319715216620400640 Happening in Ecuador? Has some of you anons some more news on that?
Vayan al noticiario de ref: https://www.twitch.tv/salcueva

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