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Anonymous 10/24/2020 (Sat) 04:04:17 No. 1030452 [Reply] [Last]
What do you think will happen November 3rd? Im scared
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>>1032232 all governments crush civil unrest this is nothing new
>>1032232 Only four years to the next election.
>>1032232 > “owning the libtards”?
>>1032248 >Yes but you phrase the reactionary government violently cracking down on dissent as a good thing capitalist group A beating up on capitalist group B yes that does sound pretty good to me.
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Black oppression Anonymous 10/23/2020 (Fri) 22:36:29 No. 1029629 [Reply] [Last]
In light of all the news of white supremacists mass shooting and lynching blacks, I am just making this thread as a reminder that you won't kill nearly as many as our government does. Dr. Robert Gallo invented the AIDS virus in collaboration with the CIA to thin out the very people these white supremacists despise, the CIA also invented crack to affect black voting patterns (see Crack linked to Contras and Oliver North), our government also poisons the water supply of black people, they are behind the street gangs, such as the Bloods and Crips who kill each other over petty reasons and they also push homosexuality on the black community, such as Lil Wayne, who recently came out dissing BLM and quite frankly is nothing more than white supremacy in blackface. You also have all the wars, poverty, disease and famine in Africa by our colonial powers and in America you have private prisons. This is all due to capitalism and plutocratic world governments. They want you divided. The bankers are going to crash and burn this country as it gets engulfed in a race war while Russia dominates the US. It's happening folks.
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Schizos like op need to be institutionalized and medicated against their will.
>>1032090 Nothing about this stuff is particularly schizo. AIDS as an engineered virus is dubious at best, but at minimum the US government intentionally ignored the crisis to allow it to kill certain people. Given the confirmed history the US has with other diseases and such targeted communities (see: Tuskegee syphilis "experiment")it's less plausible to suggest there wasn't interference to make it worse.
leftypol really thinks the crack cocaine epidemic is just a “crazy” conspiracy “theory” now? what tf happened to this board?
>>1032110 >one poster says something stupid >WOW I can't believe /leftypol/ believes this stupid thing The answer is there's still a bunch of liberals coming here who say dumb bullshit. It's actually a good thing because it gives us the chance to expose them to ideas that aren't retarded and wrong and some of them will stick.
Why do I get the feeling that most of this thread is one person responding to himself, particularly with the similar writing style responses?

Anonymous 09/23/2020 (Wed) 21:27:17 No. 894664 [Reply] [Last]
subtle propaganda thread? i shall start
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>>914176 still a handy reminder for libs
>>1006259 seems libertarian
>>1006259 >https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ Nixon was president tyg
>>914036 do you have this in MP4 so I can add it my normie social media story

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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism Anonymous 08/05/2020 (Wed) 11:45:39 No. 747462 [Reply] [Last]
Thread dedicato al paese con il popolo più analfabeta e la borghesia più ignorante d'Europa, dove ci sono più partiti comunisti che comunisti stessi. In un modo o nell'altro, cerchiamo di riprenderci il paese e il futuro che Confindustria ci ha rubato insieme ai suoi servi. Foreign comrades are welcome. Previous thread: >>19862
Edited last time by krates on 08/06/2020 (Thu) 18:10:22.
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>>1031778 Il Fgc si muove bene ma senza il PC può fare poco poco
>>1031801 Finché Rizzo continua la sua linea leghista nei confronti dell'immigrazione le cose non cambieranno.
>>1031844 Credo la question immigrazione sia l'ultimo dei problemi fra Pc e Fgc, penso il problema vero sia la subaltenità ai piccolo borghesi.
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>>1032106 Anon questo si che è un meme spicy, ma forse non era il caso di postarlo

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Questions about Anarchism Anonymous 10/24/2020 (Sat) 12:24:25 No. 1031187 [Reply] [Last]
This thread is for people who have questions about anarchism and want certain things to be clarified. I'll be following this thread and answering your questions, though please only ask one or two questions at a time, or I'll have to type up half a novel every time. I'll try to answer pretty generally for most tendencies of anarchism, but there are branches of anarchism I don't know a lot about and thus wouldn't feel comfortable answering questions about. So, ask your questions ITT
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>>1031552 >Mutualism, DemCon and AnCap are market-anarchist schools of thought, but the last one is not a socialist school of thought. >ancap do you actually consider ancaps anarchists?
>>1031552 Yes to all this, but for the love of Bat’ko, please don’t mention ancaps. They’re not comrades in either the communist or anarchist sense, and the ML’s already don’t take us seriously.
>>1031601 >>1031607 >do you actually consider ancaps anarchists? Not actually, but out some people do and therefore I bring them up in passing. I fucking loathe AnCaps, but hey, if people have questions about anarchists and ask about AnCaps, fine, I'll talk about them. I get why you'd wanna sweep them under the carpet, but for the sake of transparency and honest debate, I don't want to seem like I'm trying to trick anyone or leave anything out. praise bat'ko
>>1031601 No, of course not. We’re not retarded
>>1031246 you mean me? i am posting less often as i started to read theory more. i might start going to this board more soon with a better understanding of what i am talking about. i am flattered anyone felt the need to ask for me

Nigeria #EndSars Protests Anonymous 10/20/2020 (Tue) 23:00:23 No. 1017260 [Reply] [Last]
No one is not talking about it here. Nigerians are mass protesting against police brutality and corruption across the country, calling for an end of the Special Anti-Robbery Squad (SARS), which has a long record of abuses, corruption, and extrajudicial killings. Right now, police are killing protesters at an airport in Lekki. And a prison break in Benin City where 2,000 prisoners escaped. Nigeria is like the most corrupt country in Africa if not, the world. We could be seeing some class consciousness of these protests.
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>>1031712 you have to understand, the people in charge of Nigeria aren't very bright
>>1031712 Political Leverage? Idk
>>1031712 Sell it on the black market and make a profit.
where are /ourguys/ isn't there a communist party?
>>1026504 nope just militias/pirates who used to attack oil companies could be pretty based if they had class conciousness

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Anonymous 10/16/2020 (Fri) 10:52:40 No. 1004438 [Reply] [Last]
Hey leftists, could you elucidate the assumption that a box of candles and a chair must have some hidden thing in common with each other other than the possibility of having the same price? I have yet to hear any rational argument for that assumption. If they exchange for the same price, that is exactly all the need have in common, as demonstrated by the fact that not exchanging for the same price implies that they no longer have any significant or hidden property in common at all, by that theory. And I should add, for anyone considering the broader implementation of Ch1 Part 1 Sec 1 within Das Kapital, that I do not think Marx intended this "proof" to stand on its own, but likely included it as a trap to confuse his critics, as his private letters to Engels indicate. When Marx published this, surprisingly little consideration had been written on this subject by economists, and I don't think Marx was prepared for the development of thought that would occur before he could publish vol 2. Marx never developed a theory of value, and I suspect his inability to rigorously integrate a theory of value into his dialectic was a major reason he never published vol 2, which I believe he originally intended to completely negate this problem (before he fully realized this wouldn't be possible).
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>>1031111 no one denies a strong correlation between average LT and price. That's a ridiculous proof that demonstrates how unfamiliar you are with economics. Explain why prices ever drop immediately upon innovation. It doesn't matter if price wars exist or if companies ever drop prices below production costs as a short-term strategy, because that isn't the phenomenon I'm asking you to explain. Explain why prices generally drop immediately across the entire market after one or two companies come up with a new innovation or completely replace a technology. SNLT says the price and value are tied to average LT. You know good and well no merchant or consumer values average LT, and markets frequently reflect that. Still waiting on an example of your empirically objective fact of SNLT. Pretty obvious if you can't even pretend to cite a single example that you know it cannot be calculated.
>>1031749 >Explain why prices ever drop immediately upon innovation Youre still thinking short term. Also, i already fucking explained this 2 times, youre just too assheaded to want to accept it. >company innovates >drops price to increase sales and take advantage of lower costs >grow market share >competition either adapts their production or go out of bussiness >innovation spread through industry >price settles at new equilibrium based on SNLT
>>1031795 In the long term we are all dead T. Keynes
>>1031819 God forbid someone ever put on paper clear macroeconomic theory to explain prices, which can also be logically deduced from orthodox supply and demand logic. Ima be stopping with responding to you, ancap, since its clear you have no interest in actually considering the points we have restated several times now, and you continuing to restate points and questions we have already debunked.
>>1031824 I'm not ancap anon though.

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What did Marx mean by "Abolish the family"? Anonymous 10/17/2020 (Sat) 07:05:48 No. 1008112 [Reply] [Last]
Did he want kids to be raised by the state or something??
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>>1008146 Family must be abolished because too many children suffer at the hands of their abusive parents
>>1014788 >Things have "always been this way", thus things must never change >Cheap American fast food making people obese until they die of cardiac arrest is an argument in defense of the current circumstance of things ThingNoticer is just an edgy neocon at this point.
>>1014793 Tbh, this isn't a very good argument, because someone could just bring up how you could just focus on addressing abusive families as opposed to doing away with the concept of family all together, or simply state that nuclear family is more prone to abuse as opposed to other forms of family.
>>1014804 this desu, i can already think of an argument, just say that we can fix families by giving minors a way to complain about their parents and the ability to make more decisions about themselves at an earlier age. which is true, but thats not the point
>>1008112 it will be like the Giver

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Decentralized militaries Anonymous 10/22/2020 (Thu) 20:36:54 No. 1024576 [Reply] [Last]
One of the most common causes of socialist government downfalls are foreign-backed coups. One solution I have thought of to solve this problem would be the creation of a decentralized military. Without a centralized command structure, it may be much harder for foreign powers to hijack it and turn it against the government and its people. Here are a few features I have proposed for such a decentralized military: -Consists of a collection of militias under the control of local communities rather than the national government -Militia members are drawn from the local communities they serve. -Militia members are primarily or exclusively reserve troops that spend most of their time leading civilian lives, only engaging in military activity once every 1-4 weeks for drills. -Arms are kept in militia members' homes or in local armories. -Militias are governed democratically by members and the communities they serve. -Militias can form federations with other militias for mutual protection and coordination of activities. -Federations are run by delegates elected by constituent militia members and the communities served by said militias. -Federation membership is completely voluntary, but will be necessary if a community wants protection from militias besides their own. -Federations can be as big or small as the constituent militias and their communities want. -The national government cannot force a militia to carry out its will; the militia and its community must consent. This could limit the oppressive capabilities of the state. Pros of a decentralized military: -Less coup-prone -More direct control by the people -Can't be used by national government to enforce unpopular policies

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>>1030257 I'm a military dictator, I don't care about your pacifist ideals. Thanks for demilitarizing, it makes my goals easier to accomplish.
>>1030240 It's okay, he was just knocked over by the muzzle blast, or perhaps was startled by the boom and tripped. If that shell had hit him there'd be little left of his torso.
>Cons of a decentralized military: >-Potential for fighting between militias That is a pretty big con that could undo the entire system. There is another con I can think of related to this , petty rivalries between militias could reduce their war fighting effectiveness even if they are not actively fighting each other.
>>1024660 those are called cadres... as in commies have been doing it for a while.
>>1030995 It led to the Yugoslav Wars. Bad idea.

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Anonymous 10/18/2020 (Sun) 14:29:11 No. 1012005 [Reply] [Last]
I was talking with a conservative guy recently and he brought up something about a "cannibal island" in the USSR, can anyone gib non glowy sources on this?
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>>1019042 Not every cannibal is a chud but at his heart every chud is a cannibal.
>>1012184 >They deported all the right-wingers to an island and they promptly turned into cannibals. that was definitely because they were "right wingers" (which is bullshit, btw). totally not because GPU didn't supply them with food
>>1019139 post chin faggot
>>1031119 >advocate for reactionary individualism >need help from others
>>1031798 trully the greatest example of "talk shit, get hit"

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