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Harry Potter Anonymous Comrade 05/14/2020 (Thu) 14:00:02 No. 9553
Its about time we talk about the connection between Harry Potter, Liberalism, and idpol. and also how JK Rowling is the biggest blair simp
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>>9564 https://samkriss.com/2016/09/13/jk-rowling-and-the-cauldron-of-discourse/ here you go, detailed analysis of why harry potter is reactionary
>>9553 If I liked Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality am I based and materialist or even worse than Rowlingfags?
>>9578 >Jack saint who the fuck is that? >Lindsay Ellis Who? The fact you know these people and I don't speaks more about you than me. >some kinda Marxist dialectical materialism analysis Yes you piece of whitebread. I've seen it done and quite well, because Harry Potter's world has a lot of interesting details when analyzed. FOR EXAMPLE, why a society that can quite literally make near-infinite supplies of food and other commodities, has very rigid systems of class.
>>9595 >FOR EXAMPLE, why a society that can quite literally make near-infinite supplies of food and other commodities, has very rigid systems of class. TBF magical items can't really be reproduced with effort (IIRC) and the whole society is based on your magical power and prestige and ability. The best jobs seem to be basically reserved for who is the best at magic too.
>>9595 >FOR EXAMPLE, why a society that can quite literally make near-infinite supplies of food and other commodities, has very rigid systems of class. They can't make things like food or money, but I wouldn't overanalyze Harry Potter's world: it doesn't make much sense anyway.
>>9607 >basically reserved for who is the best at magic too <Dolores Umbridge <Cornelius Fudge Really nigga? >>9609 >can't make things like food or money They can infinitely replicate food and multiply food as well as use charms like engorgio to increase the size of portion. >>9609 > it doesn't make much sense It does considering that the USA and other capitalist countries have similar oxymoronic organization
>>9595 >>9610 >marxism is when there's tons of free food It seems your gripe is that you like Harry Potter and you are desperately trying to rationalize how the series is actually based and commiepilled
>>9560 Jesus Christ how the fuck did they even entertain the thought of letting him even give out leaflets
>>9612 >marxism is when there's tons of free food Are you retarded? Where did I even imply this? Post-scarcity is a part of dialectical analysis, and I presented it as an example since charms that multiply and engorge food are stndard household abilities taught and known to even the poorest magic families. >you are desperately trying to rationalize how the series is actually based and commiepilled Where did I say that? I said that the series has plenty of interesting dialectical takes one can find in it. If you think that = "marxism" then you're the idiot here.
>>9591 >Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality Truly some of the most autistic writing ever put down by a human. Couldn't get past the first few chapters. Not that I disagreed with the point it was making, but Harry didn't have to be Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. >>9614 The DSA elected a union cop to some administrative position a few years back and there was a similar scandal. US orgs are just that retarded. >>9607 >>9595 I don't think the magic system is defined clearly enough to do any meaningful analysis of the economy in Harry Potter. If anything it seems like they don't have scarce material resources, but the spells they use function something like programming and everyone is protective of their intellectual property. Magical organizsms presumably have the value they do because wizards don't understand them well enough to synthesize or cultivate them. Supposedly the Malfoys hate the Weasleys for being poor, even though in theory the Weasleys could magic up a fancy house and all the material possessions they could want. They just choose to live in a ramshackle favela-tier house because it's comfy or something. And Rowling is happy to write about it in an idealized way, so presumably there's some kind of charm to that lifestyle and the real differences between wizard classes is purely aesthetic. It might as well be - there's no substantive class politics of in the series, just racism and discrimination. Hogwarts is some kind of boarding school yet even the lowest classes of wizard get in. Even kids with magic talent from outside the wizard class system get in. Meanwhile Harry inherited wealth from his parents but it never comes up except for enabling him to buy wizard commodities to show off the magic of the world. In a particularly bizarre scene in the first book/movie, Harry (very new to being a wizard) manages to fill Ron with wonder by buying some magical snacks with his money. Normally the fish out of water is the one being wowed, but even an outsider can wow the poormie wizards by waving money around. Shit, Harry isn't used to money either. He grew up living in a closet. Where did the Potters get their money? Where did the Malfoys? Why don't the Weasley's have any? There's not really an explanation for this AFAIK. Wealth doesn't seem to have any material basis in potterland.
>>9618 >Where did the Potters get their mone Skelegro and other medicinal shit as well as playing with the Muggle market. You're right over-all Rowling, while trying to make a rich and fun idealistic world of magic did miss quite a few major holes. It still fun to fantasize about tho.
>>9622 So Harry's parents are big pharma and day traders? That's even worse.
>>9618 >Magical organizsms presumably have the value they do because wizards don't understand them well enough to synthesize or cultivate them I think most of the rare magic items were made with parts of magic creatures. Because of reasons, the wizarding world is stuck in a pre-industrial phase where most production has to be done on an artisinal level and these products are only available to these rich.
I liked Caleb Maupin's interpretation. In his opinion the book is just a self expresion power fantasy by the GenXer hippie middleclass leff. Fundamentally it is a story about rebelious collage students fighting against the injust system, man. Scary racist rightwingers are the enemy along with the asshole other students, while the aurhority figures (ministerium) only hinder them. The good teachers are all hip and, and one of them is an oppressed minority (werewolf), while rhe favourite one is a gay cooky but wise old guy. And the dreams of the main characters are libshit as well, like Harry who wants to become an Auror (in my interpretation basically like wanting to become a good kind of lawmaker or other lawman who would change the rotten syatem, man). Anyway, I'm a bit tired, hope what I wrote is ledgible.
Honestly I don't think there is anything in particular that attracts liberals to Harry Potter. I just think that the majority of young adults and whatnot who post on twitter are liberal leaning; and Harry Potter is an extremely popular book series, one that many many people read when they were kids.
>>9638 >Harry's parents His dad's side yes.
>>9646 Fucking this. Harry Potter is by far one of the most popular series to exist. It has 2x the amount of fanfiction as the next most popular fandom - Naruto - and was written and made in the transition from the 90s to the 2010s, which is the demographic most young liberals come from.
>>9643 >Because of reasons, the wizarding world is stuck in a pre-industrial phase where most production has to be done on an artisinal level and these products are only available to these rich. It might be possible to reverse engineer the stupidity of the world building and justify this by saying that the rich people maintain their class superiority by preventing any scientific inquiry and restricting magical practice to superstitious or ritualistic methods. Mr. Weasley is kind of a pariah in the books for doing experiments, trying to learn from Muggles, and accepting muggle medicine. This doesn't make much sense though because they don't do much to enforce it like feudal societies used to do.
>>9651 >It has 2x the amount of fanfiction as the next most popular fandom - Naruto There's like half a million MLP fanfics.
Is Harry Potter an isekai?
>>9659 Sort of... its still "this world" but its an almost Alternate Dimension
>>9658 >half a million MLP fanfics Fanfiction.net has 778K non-crossover HP fanfictions alone, that's not including AO3 and Adult.fanfiction.net and HarryPotterFanfictionArchive which collectively reach 1 million fanfictions. That's ignoring the hundred thousand or so MA fics deleted in 2012. Naruto has 408K non-crossover fics on fanfiction.net and numerous others on adultfanfiction.net, AO3 and Narutofic.org as well as some other sites. All together they reach roughly 1/2 a million. MLPs biggest source of fanfiction is (I think) called Fimfiction which I don't have the numbers on. MLP has roughly 31.1K fanfictions on FF.net and roughly half that on AO3
>>9670 How many of those HP fanfictions are Obama visits Hogwarts?
>>9700 yES. cOPE
>>9698 None that I know of
>>9553 The thing that irked me the most about Harry Potter is how Harry is rich as fuck, with literally pīles of gold at Gringotts, yet he gets awesome, free shit all the time (cloak, broom), while Ron, who is poor as fuck, has to get by with garbage despite being Harry's best friend. Harry laughs at Ron when his broken wand nearly kills him. "You need a new wand Ron, haha, (thinks:) too bad you can't afford it, you poor, disgusting shit ". For the prom gala thing, he lets Ron go in his aunt's robes. Like dude, get your friend a suit at least. But this just shows JK Rowling's worldview that everyone has their position in life and the key is to make the most of it (Ron's parents are always happy and positive). Only way to change your conditions is to do something impressive or marketable like invent joke spell trinkets that people want to buy or write some books. If you don't have a special talent then you're just condemned to whatever your socioeconomic position is. I see it mentioned as a criticism that Rowling praises elite education in Hogwarts, but she isn't, she is praising public education. That is why the school is constantly falling apart and why Voldemort is just the Tory boogieman (eugenics, black, "death eaters", we're-coming-for-the-NHS and we're going to destroy public education). The education is there to give you the basic knowledge so that you can utilise your talents. Hermione, for all her book-learning, doesn't become anything amazing, like a minister of magic, she just gets a job, and marries Ron, the working class idiot of the group. Harry marries Ron's sister (again, poor) and becomes a cop. Fred and George drop out and become successful. Meaning that once you've had enough education to join the market you should. Hermione is the most educated and she's poorer than Fred and George. It's the liberal, free market ideology where all institutions are just offerings on the market. Education isn't something that should give structure, but something that is to be utilised by people to the best of their ability, just like one utilises places, friendships and people (Harry is only able to do what he does because there are people willing to do shit for him without him even asking or sometimes knowing they did it, see: the whole plot of the series). In fact, turns out, had Voldemort been able to kill Harry sooner he would have killed himself sooner, because of the whole linked souls thing. Everyone protects Harry because it's the "right thing to do" and that's really the fantasy of Harry Potter, that everyone will work together when the time comes and calls for it. It's what gives liberals this false sense of security, that people "just do the right thing" when necessary because of some inherent, shared feeling of belonging to our society. Neville Longbottom is the backup, meaning that someone will come along. If not Harry, then someone else, if not Churchill, then some other stout Englishman. Rowling sees "good" and "evil" not as a particular set of material circumstances which we consider good or evil, she sees them as real forces in the world and the most important thing is to choose the right side, stiff upper lip and a happy disposition, and don't try to change the status quo, stay in your lane and make the most of your station in life that is determined for you by birth. >>9656 It's explained by claiming that wizards basically think they're better than muggles and therefore can't learn anything from them. They patronise muggles and protect them like children who don't understand what's going on around them. And "scientific" inquiry in the wizarding world is allowed, you had Nicholas Flammel and others. Their inquiry must be about magic, though, it's kind of like how modern universities look down on Marxism (or STEM on humanities). It's all very elitist. It's how when Europeans went to Africa, India, Central America, declared everyone who wasn't European savages and uncivilised, didn't even bother to understand the different cultures or think that they may learn something from them. Not saying Rowling is promoting this view, but she doesn't condemn it either, it's just how it is, she understands it and everyone accepts it. Remember, despite defeating "evil" and everything just goes back to the way it was, "the end of history". In Rowling's Potterworld the Hogwarts Express is forever the same and always on time. In the beginning of Chamber of Secrets, Harry and Ron miss the train because it leaves exactly on time.
>>9714 > don't try to change the status quo Isn't it cool that Hermione is the only one who realizes that slave labour is wrong and is treated as crazy and hysteric for it? And she's a muggle born too. Isn't it cool that Arthur Weasley, the only wizard interested in muggle society, is poor and portrayed as strange?
>>9714 Now that I think about it Harry having Ron as his best friend is some kind of class-collaboration meme, isn't it? It's like when wokies try to address class by saying that poverty is VALID and needs to be REPRESENTED instead of as a problem to be solved. >Fred and George drop out and become successful. Meaning that once you've had enough education to join the market you should. I'm not up on my Harry Potter lore, but all the main characters drop out in the last book. I don't know if Hermione goes back to finish school or something, but they are ALL dropouts. >Everyone protects Harry because it's the "right thing to do" and that's really the fantasy of Harry Potter, that everyone will work together when the time comes and calls for it. This is actually ripped off from LotR. Tolkien called it "eucatastrophe," the idea that evil plans would unravel because people choose to do the right thing while villains anticipate they will be selfish. It's the whole idea of "The only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." But it falls apart if the villain is savvy enough to plan according to good people trying to be good (like SJWs/wokies) or if people are socialized thoroughly enough to be selfish pricks (like lolberts).
>>9715 I don't think there's anything that ameliorates the chattel slavery thing, but Arthur Weasley being a nerd about muggle stuff ends up being helpful a number of times. It saves his own life when he accepts experiments in muggle medicine, and the car saves Harry and Ron from the spiders.
>>9715 You literally copy-pasted this, which got rebuked on leftypol before. Unlike >>9714 you're just being pretentious.
>>9733 cope
>>9740 >cope no argument
I like the way magic functions in Harry Potter. One can criticize Rowling for many things however magic is where she did rather creatively in her series (at least initially), often referred back to moments written prior to expand on them indirectly. I'd like to compare this to 2 other fantasy series; Lord of the Rings and Young Wizards. First the LOTR-verse: It has magic but more passive, acting rarely as a semi-divine ability. It makes the Elves, Dwarves and Wizards live MUCH longer and have abilities and talents (physical included) unavailable to mortal men. It also allows for minor spells (light, fire etc.) and is more atmospheric and internal. It is very weak compared to most magic in other media. This is a low-magic fantasy approach and is fine for a work like LOTR but it also takes away the sheer wonderment of a fantasy setting. In layman's terms LOTR magic is largely spiritual, and grants minor 'stat boosts' to objects and people of magical descent The second mentioned here >>5963 Young Wizards, written by Diane Duane, has plenty of power/creativity in the magic (and variety dependent on species and situations) however the approach is so clinical it becomes a bit bland, using calculations into the territory of Physics. In other words, stops being magic, becoming a "magic is unknown science" meme. Magic has its rhyme and reason, but the point is that it ISN'T science, but mystics that work with the metaphysical with low-medium reality-warping. An example from the Second Book Deep Wizardry, SPOILERS: "...characters appeared. "Okay, print four eight zero times twenty... Good, print nine six zero zero divided by three... Great. Cubic meters... uhh... Oh, crap. Kit, what's the volume of a cylinder again?" "V equals pi times r squared times the height." "That's it. Now how did I do this before?" Nita chewed her lip a little, thinking..." The excessive calculations needed for the magic makes it lose its mystery and the sheer complexity makes it hard to write and thus spells are rarely detailed (the excerpt above an exception). Other times the magic follows NO such complexity or logic; later on in the same book the binding magic needed is from an operatic theatre (though this can be explained with the fact that this magic is done by whale wizards). https://www.e-reading-lib.com/bookreader.php/150853/diane-duane-deep-wizardry.pdf In Harry Potter Magic works primarily through intent and belief. One feels the magic, working in the flow, leading to how well it turns out. For example Potioneering; rather than scientific chemical reactions it is a reaction based on mythological properties and their internal "stories" imbued with magical energy and how they interact. An interesting description comes from, a well written Xover fanfic called Umino Iruka and the Will of Fire by Leicontis; recently finished and a delightful read for fans of Harry Potter and Naruto, but I digress. On Chapter 38 we get the following from Professor McGonagall, "The Study of Ancient Runes is, in earlier years, primarily a language course. Students learn to decipher various runic languages, and to scribe and engrave runes themselves. In its later years the class begins to cover the usage of runes in magic, a topic not entirely dissimilar to the 'seals' you are all familiar with. Runes are primarily used in the creation and anchoring of long-term and permanent magical effects upon objects and locations. A thorough grounding in Runes is therefore essential for any profession involving the creation of such effects, such as warders and enchanters, or the dismantling of existing effects by cursebreakers and the like." "Arithmancy begins with basic numerology, the study of the magical properties of numbers and how they interact with each other and with magic and the world. At more advanced levels, the course covers the calculations involved in understanding magical effects. These calculations are essential in the crafting of new spells and potions, and in analyzing existing magics. Aspiring warders, enchanters, and cursebreakers again will find this field essential, but so will spellcrafters, Potions masters, and others that seek to research magic and its many mysteries." "Care of Magical Creatures is essentially a counterpart to Herbology. In it, students learn about many forms of magical fauna, though some creatures are discussed more in Defense Against the Dark Arts. Obviously, anyone who might wish to work with magical beasts of any sort would be well-advised to take this class. This not only includes the more apparent careers, such as dragon-handling or magizoology, but also wandmaking and others that utilize parts or products from magical creatures. A Potions master would thus benefit from such knowledge, as would a master Herbologist." The excerpt beautifully summarizes the sheer potential of magical creativity created by Rowling, which she ironically only scratched the surface of, but fans and fanworks have eagerly delved in. Later in the fic during the Horcrux Hunt the methods in breaking down Voldemort's defenses and his response to the shinobi's abilities allow for a creative demo of fan-made and canon spells and their use in quick succession. Another example of this is shown in the fanfic Divided and Entwined by Starfox5, where a good example is a lengthy arc dedicated to deciphering mysterious Houngan Necromancy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_in_Harry_Potter https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Magic https://www.hp-lexicon.org/spells-and-potions/ Unfortunately, the whole Chosen One story in the Canon Harry Potter books began to escalate, the magical side of things became side-material and thus ground to a halt in terms of new things introduced or prior mentions being expanded. This is the problem the Young Wizards series also faces. Each book has a specific set of antagonists and protagonists and a certain goal that must be reached. Magical items mythical and original are found and new spells used in situations, but magic itself is rarely explored or given understanding. Due to the physics-like nature of the 'Book-magic' one would assume it is limited by physics and calculation and thus cannot be used inventively without careful longterm study (like runes/arithmancy) and lacks others like Charms, Jinxes, Curses, Hexes, and Transfiguration. Mythical creatures are either aliens or deities in mortal animal disguise, potions are nigh non-existent etc. Then there is the magic of the whales which is done with singing/opera which comes from the heart and thus requires writing similar to a Musical play, which is hard enough as it is. It is both too specific and too vague and thus cannot be expanded on by fans without, essentially creating almost an original work entirely. It essentially tries the "alchemy" shtick of Full Metal Alchemist, without actually showing enough to have a real grasp of it, and because it's deconstructed scientifically you cannot wonder/let your mind run-wild, as you hit certain blocks. LOTR lacks this issue because magic was never big in its story in the first place, the quest(s) being told were what's important, but when looking for prominent magical ability in a story you can't have this either. TL;DR: Harry Potter's magic system is defined, yet fluid enough that creative license can be used freely without fearing contradiction of in-universe rules. This allows for the most important part of a fantasy's world-building; the imagination of the audience to take hold and develop it further, past the main story and characters, without everything being scientific or weak or vague. >Inb4 HP has a weak Magical system Debatable and irrelevant as Magical function and system aren't the same. A large point of magic being MAGIC. Magic has changed in modern view. In the past that which couldn't be rationally explained was 'magic' or 'divine' however this was also embellished with legend/myth, so that real science behind it has long been expanded into a new realm. Today it has evolved further to embody, first and foremost, the power of imagination and willpower put into direct ability; magic.
>>9560 Was it Mike Prysner? He needs to stick to podcasts and personal atonement
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>>9715 >Muh hermione bleeding heart put down! >Muh slaves! See >>8956 An in depth take on the whole House Elf issue: https://www.resetera.com/threads/hermione-the-sjw-because-the-house-elves-are-being-fucked.97580/ Another well written argument pointing out the idiocy of taking S.P.E.W. as direct allegory for slavery: https://aminoapps.com/c/harry-potter/page/blog/welfare-does-not-equal-freedom-hpa-debate-against/nlTL_uMNwZqMjnXrJvjYoWWdpmN81e >>10154 >mysterious Houngan Necromancy In other words, negromancy.
>>9646 /thread
>>9553 Obama would have dronebombed Harry Potter in that diner he met his friends in after the wedding was attacked by fascists. That literally happened to the son of that American citizen Obama assassinated. >>9591 >If I liked Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality am I based and materialist or even worse than Rowlingfags? Soulless libertarians are infinitely worse than liberal Christians. That fanfic is not fanfic, it's a complete negation of the compassion and liberation of those dumb books. >>9646 HP is a Christian anarchist story that obscures the working class and pretends nonviolence can stop fascism, it's the purest form of lib ideology possible.
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Reposting a Nuclear Take Voldemort represents Communism, ever since the 2016 US Elections, liberals have been eager to compare to Trump to all sorts of things: Adolf Hitler, President Reagan, and even Lord Voldemort. I am here to tell /leftypol/ that these comparisons are mistaken, as I will explain throughout the rest of this post. Voldemort's life and ideology actually have more in common with Lenin, Stalin, and that of the Soviet Union. Here is my reasoning: 1) At the beginning of Tom Riddle's journey into the Wizarding world, he is a very poor orphan with extreme talents in magic that were very unusual, far beyond the likes of mere charlatans like Hitler and Reagan. He considers death a "human weakness", as in, a contradiction innate to all men that he wished to overcome after suffering the death of his mother. He recognizes this contradiction, but does not yet recognize how to overcome it. His talented side mirrors Stalin's talents in religious knowledge as a young boy. His struggle mirrors Lenin and the death of his brother 2) In Tom Riddle's sixth year, he questioned Professor Horus Slughorn about a key to immortality, the Horcrux. this is considered forbidden, but known, knowledge by "high-ranking" individuals who were considered "loyal" to the traditions of the Wizarding world. Knowledge that would resolve the problems caused by death. Might I suggest this is most similar to the knowledge of Communism? Communism seeks to resolve the effects of exploitation by sublating them under a new system, one that requires class struggle and blood sacrifice. The horror on Professor Slughorn's face when Tom Riddle poses the question could basically be put in the context of a student asking a question about Communism to Slughorn's muggle, liberal counterpart. 3) After Tom Riddle discovers the Horcrux (Communism) he develops a new admiration for magic, putting it on a higher pedestal than he could've possibly imagined before. Historical necessity was calling to him. That is, the historical necessity of magic. The liberal interpretation of Harry Potter is that the muggles are, to put it bluntly, ethnics. But this couldn't be further from the truth. The muggles are in a privilidged caste of society that oppresses Witches and Wizards, forcing them into hiding and doing everything in their power to stop the development and integration of magic into the world. Tom Riddle comes to a fateful conclusion: in order for immortality to blossom, Witches and Wizards must overthrow the muggles and become the ruling class in society, forming a Dictatorship of the Witches and Wizards where magic can be integrated into it. The dynamic between muggles and wizards mirrors that of the bourgoisie and the proletariat. 4) Tom Riddle traveled abroad and experimented on the Dark Arts for 10 years. pushed magic to farther boundaries than they ever have been pushed. He developed his ideology and theory in order for the great revolution that would push the world into the next era of civilization. Much like Marx and Lenin during their banishment. "I have experimented; I have pushed the boundaries of magic further, perhaps, than they have ever been pushed —" 5) Voldemort started the First Wizarding War by taking advantage of one of the wizarding world's greatest weaknesses: the beings and creatures that they had persecuted. Giants and werewolves. The oppressed and outcast. This is not unlike how the Bolsheviks used the Jews in Russian society to their advantage: the Jews had been subject to open harassment in the Russian empire for decades, peaking during the recession caused by WW1. Lenin knew how to speak to the oppressed and the forgotten. Those that wanted a better society for themselves and for everybody. 6) In spite of the Death Eater party's threat to the established order of the Wizarding world: that of ethnic segregation and chattel slavery, the status quo was soon restored by the Order of the Phoenix and Dumbledore's army. The threat of Horcruxes and the violent outburts of the oppressed in wizarding society were soon considered to be extinguished and all but forgotten. Much like the Soviet Union and its ideology of Communism, which Capitalism replaced for good. Unless another wizard as powerful and ambitious as Voldemort should choose to discover it again...
>>10750 We need to make this the next "Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha" meme >>10154 >no-one even replies to the enormous effort post except 1 joke a fat shame that is
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>>10876 >>10750 Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Tvåldtäktzohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Tvåldtäktzohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
>>10154 >>10876 I like your post anon. The magic in Harry Potter always seemed kind of like programming to me. Characters are able to invent new spells to do certain things they have in mind beforehand, so it's not simply discovering the spells that already exist. On the other hand, the teaching of magic seems to revolve around rote memorization of specific already-known spells. Half Blood Prince had one of the most interesting themes/plots with the idea of Snape going outside the box with magic while he was a student (against the rules) which fit into the larger theme about the wizards being closed-minded. It was pretty disappointing that magic never got much exploration later on. With the protagonist sloucher Harry it makes some sense, but Hermione and the various other characters would be a lot more likely to get inventive with magic. But the plot starts revolving around the backstory and magic that was already done years ago, so that doesn't really go anywhere. Harry continues casting expelliarmus throughout the series.
>>12067 Bloody this; all I ever hear from people is ether pure wank, or whining about the magic with little middle ground about the good parts and lack of exploration of the subject. Good to see someone else see that!
I'm upset it hasn't been brought up yet: https://www.strawpoll.me/20568082
>>12081 >Would you bang JK Rowling Yes, why the fuck not. It's not like I'm marrying her.
>oh shit hermione i didn't see you there >i'm just admiring the barren wasteland that we call earth - full of death, famine and expensive replacement earpads for sennheiser headphones. https://youtu.be/MM6MU73G1Lo
>>12085 Kek this is such a typical HP fanfic.
Debunking a hot take from someone >The Wizarding world lords over Muggles who are sub-human to them, thus Harry Potter is fascist The Wizarding World is not in control of the muggles, they live around them, fool them and hide FROM them, but cannot control them. The opinions of the upper elite of Wizarding kind comes from antiquated views created by the technological and socio-economic gap that magic causes, which makes medieval traditions stay alive so long.
>>9616 >Where did I say that? I said that the series has plenty of interesting dialectical takes one can find in it. wow...

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