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Official Thread For Discussion Of Moderator Votes Comrade 08/26/2019 (Mon) 02:58:59 No. 1928
Hello, this is a topic that is intended for feedback on matters currently up for vote among the mod staff for all users. I will also include this info on /leftypol/ in case it is missed but for all you gulag-watchers, here it is. Here are the matters currently up for vote;

FAST TRACK VOTE: It is proposed that the pinned reading list topic and the /NEW/ topic on leftypol should be merged into one FAQ pinned thread as was present on the old leftypol, since we are now out of the transitionary period, and to reduce the number of pinned threads. This new thread would give advice for new members and board conduct as well as the reading list. VOTING WILL CLOSE 4AM UTC 27/08

LONG VOTE: It is proposed that Bunkerchan should, ONCE TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE, create a ban list that is publicly viewable that includes the name of the moderator who issued the ban as well as the details of the post itself, so that users can hold their staff to account more effectively. Obviously, no identifying info or IPs should be publicly visible besides vol name. VOTING WILL CLOSE 4AM UTC 29/08

LONG VOTE: It is proposed that voting in this channel on issues which only affect one board (or not all boards) should be limited to only the staff members who administrate those board/s. If you think that all moderators of the site should vote on all proposals, please vote thumbs down to this proposal. VOTING WILL CLOSE IN 72 HOURS AT 3AM UTC 29/08
>>5101 >GOD FUCKING DAMN IT MY LONG POST WAS EATEN AGAIN. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I SHOULDNT HAVE TO SAVE MY POSTS IN A TEXT FILE OUT OF PARANOIA THAT IT MIGHT BE LOST IN SUBMISSION. FUCKING DAMN IT. I always ctrl+copy what I'm writing to clipboard before posting anything anywhere. I've been burned too many times on too many websites.
also the whole "most spam/bad faith posting is from tor users" is 100% a myth. no proof has ever been given, no evidence has ever been shown, while multiple identifiable effortposters on /leftypol/ all admit to posting thru tor. this is literally a hoax to justify banning tor because you lazy fuckers cant even code past "hello world!", have no interest in solving this problem in a way that supports the users, and are more interested in protecting your delicate sensibilities from seeing unsavory images than you are doing your job in a way that doesnt make users pay the price DO THE RIGHT THING AND QUIT ALREADY.
Since I can't post on /leftypol/, I'll ask here: will Tor be banned across all boards or just /leftypol/? If the latter then I suggest all Tor refugees to take over one of the other boards. Current /roulette/ is basically a fresh new board and has no theme.
>>5107 Tor use is not guaranteed on any boards, if you use a Tor node on a different board it may or may not be banned so post at your own risk for now.
>>5107 tbh /dead/ seems to be both thematically fitting and where many of the effortposting tor posters seem to be "ideologically" coming from. but at this point, consider this the first shot against the torposters. we need to accept that maybe bunkerchan should be treated as dead too.
>>>/leftypol/659919 infosec is not the point of tor you fucking tard, opsec and privsec is. and btw even on public-facing sites infosec can still be practiced, its just not being practiced here. dont use security terms you dont understand, especially when done to defend such a glowie decision as banning tor users >>>/leftypol659959 fed detected, there is ZERO evidence even a MINORITY of nodes are run by CIA/FBI/NSA. anyway this misses the point, the feds want tor to work because they use it themselves for their own covert activities and actively promote it internationally to destabilize countries like iran and china. if tor didnt actually work out of the box by downloading it from the tor project, then it wouldnt be so effective at circumventing censorship internationally. shit like that is clearly glowie and should be banned
>>5109 >a Tor node >not guaranteed >it may or may not be banned WTF does that mean? Will it be based on a random number generator? I'm asking if the whole Tor network will be banned on other boards or not, the way it has just been banned on /leftypol/, which is what we're discussing here. Obviously spammers will be banned on any board, regardless of using a Tor node or not, I'm not talking about that.
>>5111 Well, you might as well use /roulette/ as a /dead/ trial board. But I doubt most Tor posters are ideologically /dead/, IMO it's pretty evenly spread. I'm not denying there's some connection between someone's ideology and their decision to use Tor, but that decision comes also from the personal experiences and just some basic knowledge of how omnipresent surveillance has become these days. I see some tankies complaining about Tor bans as well, for example.
>>5113 seriously, why even ban spammers? it makes ZERO sense like i already said in >>5070. bans only world with static or long-duration IP addresses and a difficulty in changing them. that all goes away with Tor by design. even a one day ban makes no sense when the spammer can just change circuits, tho even that is better than the permarangebans being hamfisted right now >>5114 i agree to a point, tho i have seen an outsized representation of /dead/ (ie post-left nihilist, cryptoanarchist, and syncretic leftcom) perspectives among tor users, which i think is an artifact of shared cultures. its definitely not universal and i dont even think torposters may be majority /dead/ (its a heterogenous bunch), i just think that it is definitely not out of the realm of possibility that torposters are significantly /dead/ (and many probably don't even know /dead/ is around or may not even see themselves as posties, just crypto-anarchists with marxist characteristics). but who knows maybe its just my selection bias. there's always /testing/ btw it seriously got A LOT harder to post here without getting a bunch of 500s, like almost a dozen attempts now, i feel like i shouldnt have even posted if im just serving as the testing ground for exterminating torposters by checking my IPs. make up your minds already, schizo mods, is tor ok or not??
>>>/leftypol/660160 this privacy nihilism is insane and tries to draw a false dichotomy between being a cryptic tech wizard and security grand master, and being engaged with mass movements and regular people. i can do both at the same time and the former actually is what protects my ability to do the latter with a modicum of privacy, security, and anonymity. thinking that the fact we are all on lists is warrant to just not even try is some of the most pathetic, cowardly, cucked antiprivacy liberalism i have ever seen.
>>5116 Seconded
Why is N I G G E R now not allowd?
>>5185 >>>/leftypol/671779 so can we have it back now?
the tor ban isn’t stopping the linkolafag, can we just get it back?
>>5207 It has been petitioned. There isn't much we can do except wait. >>5183 There was an edgy retard spamming it on every thread. It's allowed if you can fool the word filter. It's case sensitive.
leftypol is getting spammed by shit threads. are you reatrds sleeping?
>>5208 Yo mods is the report system working?
>>5218 tor test
>>5218 As far as I know yes albeit some users report difficulties sending their reports.
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Ongoing mod votes: Vote : Posts including pictures created by the 'wojak script' shall become a bannable offence. Vote ends 29/07/2020 20:00 UTC Vote: Adopt the following as /leftypol/'s official definition of idpol/party line to be used as a reference material and to litigate bans and so on; "An important part of /leftypol/’s unique character is our opposition to identity politics. We believe that conflicts between genders, races, sexualities, and so on are distractions from the wider class struggle that are intentionally fanned by the ruling class. This does not mean that oppression based on personal characteristics does not exist, but that it should be approached from an egalitarian perspective which is not personally accusatory and does not assign ‘victim’ and ‘oppressor’ groups. The rights of individuals to live according to their own wishes is a fundamental part of leftism." - Vote ends 28/07/20 8pm UTC
>>5713 > Adopt the following as /leftypol/'s official definition of idpol/party line to be used as a reference material and to litigate bans <definition Based
>>5713 This cannot come soon enough.
>>5713 haha why do mods get so triggered by soyjaks? haha almost like you’re soyboys or something haha
>>5713 >The rights of individuals to live according to their own wishes is a fundamental part of leftism. how radlib can you get
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would Black Separatism be considered idpol? if so, is Native American and Kurdish separatism like Chiapas and Rojava idpol too?
>>5811 Yes, its just more segregation, Malcolm-X vn broke away from that idea himself.
>>5812 so the Rojava ban is coming back?
>>5813 Stop being obtuse idiot. The Rojava ban existed because people were too autistic to not screech about it like retards and shit up every other thread with their ideological tripe. After struggling with moderating thousands of shitposts a day, Old BO just said fuck it and blanket banned the shit. People still talked about Rojava but only in a concise manner, all this memeing about Rojava is just /leftpol/ butthurt.
>>5816 so is Ethnic Separatism allowed or not?
>>5859 If you're just asking this again, then you need to re-read Marx and Engels.
>>5816 >The Rojava ban existed because people were too autistic to not screech about it like retards and shit up every other thread with their ideological tripe. Nah, newfag, the ban was there because the BO got to around reading leftist literature (by his own admission) and read Lenin's imperialism, among a few anti-imperialist works, and then completely lost the plot and started banning anyone who didn't worship not only "AES" countries, but Syria, Iraq, Iran, even Russia ffs.
>>6725 >newfag <TFW you were here since before Aidan. Everything you've said is just more anti-Old-BO rubbish
>>6772 Nah, I was one of the people to get banned in the hoochie ban wave, despite being a regular poster from the beginning. It was a two week ban so BO didn't reverse it, only permanent ones. That's when I went to /leftpol/, and after that space_ got ownership of /leftpol/ and that board went to shit. Old BO effectively destroyed the anti-idpol online left. And don't even deny it, the most hard core identity politics believers in the internet often happen to be MLs in the style of oldBO, who take anti-imperialism to absurdity.
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Was there ever a vote on moving all language threads to >>>/ref/?
>>7016 Sorry, I forgot to bring this proposal to the mod team. I just did and I'm waiting for their feedback.
>>7016 Done.
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>>7016 Lmao this nigga really 'boutta kill all the language threads by moving them onto a board deader than /dead/
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>>7042 yes
“seething” needs to be filtered to something else like “cool & awesome” to stay grammatically correct. so many posts go like >you’re I agreeing right now and it’s annoying to read
I want Tania to end my suffering.
>>7047 No, that doesn't work either when it's meant as a verb >you can seethe all you want <you can cool & awesome all you want This kind of opposite-day filter is dumb in the first place. A better filter would retain some of the sense, while being ridiculous. Like the PMC -> "people of college" filter.
>>7310 cope harder raid fags
>>7406 I vote to fire whoever was janny when the raid thread was stickied. That was unprofessional, and it's the reason we're in this mess. I'm going back to twitter until this blows over.
>>7420 This isn't the thread for that and a false flag too but I have to mention there was never a raid thread (unless you count an announcement about /pol/ trying to raid us, which would be absurd).
>>7047 It just needs to be removed, because it's fucking retarded. What's even the point of filtering seeethe anyway? Why filter seeethe but not cope? It's just dumb and annoying.

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