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Did Marx support a strongly centralized state or no? Comrade 06/29/2020 (Mon) 18:13:17 No. 2117 [Reply] [Last]
I am open to non-marxist points of view. Evidence for: >Whilst it forces on more and more of the transformation of the vast means of production, already socialized, into State property, it shows itself the way to accomplishing this revolution. The proletariat seizes political power and turns the means of production into State property. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/04/nationalisation-land.htm >The nationalisation of land will work a complete change in the relations between labour and capital, and finally, do away with the capitalist form of production, whether industrial or rural. Then class distinctions and privileges will disappear together with the economical basis upon which they rest. To live on other people's labour will become a thing of the past. There will be no longer any government or state power, distinct from society itself! Agriculture, mining, manufacture, in one word, all branches of production, will gradually be organised in the most adequate manner. National centralisation of the means of production will become the national basis of a society composed of associations of free and equal producers, carrying on the social business on a common and rational plan. Such is the humanitarian goal to which the great economic movement of the 19th century is tending. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm >If man, by dint of his knowledge and inventive genius, has subdued the forces of nature, the latter avenge themselves upon him by subjecting him, in so far as he employs them, to a veritable despotism independent of all social organisation. Wanting to abolish authority in large-scale industry is tantamount to wanting to abolish industry itself, to destroy the power loom in order to return to the spinning wheel. Let us take another example — the railway. Here too the co-operation of an infinite number of individuals is absolutely necessary, and this co-operation must be practised during precisely fixed hours so that no accidents may happen. Here, too, the first condition of the job is a dominant will that settles all subordinate questions, whether this will is represented by a single delegate or a committee charged with the execution of the resolutions of the majority of persona interested. In either case there is a very pronounced authority. Moreover, what would happen to the first train dispatched if the authority of the railway employees over the Hon. passengers were abolished? But the necessity of authority, and of imperious authority at that, will nowhere be found more evident than on board a ship on the high seas. There, in time of danger, the lives of all depend on the instantaneous and absolute obedience of all to the will of one. When I submitted arguments like these to the most rabid anti-authoritarians, the only answer they were able to give me was the following: Yes, that's true, but there it is not the case of authority which we confer on our delegates, but of a commission entrusted! These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves. This is how these profound thinkers mock at the whole world. We have thus seen that, on the one hand, a certain authority, no matter how delegated, and, on the other hand, a certain subordination, are things which, independently of all social organisation, are imposed upon us together with the material conditions under which we produce and make products circulate. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm >But no more than local and provincial self-government is in contradiction to political, national centralisation, is it necessarily bound up with that narrow-minded cantonal or communal self-seeking which strikes us as so repulsive in Switzerland, and which all the South German federal republicans wanted to make the rule in Germany in 1849. – Note by Engels to the 1885 edition.] Evidence against: >With all the great towns organized into Communes after the model of Paris, no government could repress the movement by the surprise of sudden reaction. Even by this preparatory step the time of incubation, the guarantee of the movement, came. All France [would be] organized into self-working and self-governing Communes, the standing army replaced by the popular militias, the army of State parasites removed, the clerical hierarchy displaced by the schoolmaster, the State judge transformed into Communal organs, the suffrage for the national representation not a matter of sleight of hand for an all-powerful government but the deliberate expression of organized Communes, the State functions reduced to a few functions for general national purposes. Such is the Commune – the political form of the social emancipation, of the liberation of labour from the usurpations (slaveholding) of the monopolists of the means of labour, created by the labourers themselves or forming the gift of nature. As the State machinery and parliamentarism are not the real life of the ruling classes, but only the organized general organs of their dominion, the political guarantees and forms and expressions of the old order of things, so the Commune is not the social movement of the working class and therefore of a general regeneration of mankind, but the organized means of action. The Commune does not [do] away with the class struggles, through which the working classes strive to [read for] the abolition of all classes and, therefore, of all classes [class rule] (because it does not represent a peculiar interest, it represents the liberation of “labour,” that is the fundamental and natural condition of individual and social life which only by usurpation, fraud, and artificial contrivances can be shifted from the few upon the many), but it affords the rational medium in which that class struggle can run through its different phases in the most rational and humane way. It could start violent reactions and as violent revolutions. It begins the emancipation of labour – its great goal – by doing away with the unproductive and mischievous work of the State parasites, by cutting away the springs which sacrifice an immense portion of the national produce to the feeding of the State monster on the one side, by doing, on the other, the real work of administration, local and national, for working men’s wages. It begins therefore with an immense saving, with economical reform as well as political transformation. The Communal organization once firmly established on a national scale, the catastrophes it might still have to undergo, would be sporadic slaveholders’ insurrections, which, while for a moment interrupting the work of peaceful progress, would only accelerate the movement, by putting the sword into the hands of the Social Revolution.

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Comrade 04/24/2020 (Fri) 01:59:37 No. 1311 [Reply] [Last]
https://maozhuyigongchandang.wordpress.com/2020/04/23/%E5%85%9A%E5%91%98%E6%9C%88%E6%8A%A5-party-members-monthly-13/ >Soon after the founding of the People’s Republic of China, Chairman Mao’s policies of improving sanitation and medical access led to a population boom that was previously inconceivable due to wars, famine and disease. Some people were worried that such a large population would be difficult for China to handle, in response to them, Chairman Mao declared: >> “It is a very good thing that China has a big population. Even if China’s population multiplies many times, she is fully capable of finding a solution; the solution is production. Of all things in the world, people are the most precious. Under the leadership of the Communist Party, as long as there are people, every kind of miracle can be performed. We believe that revolution can change everything and that before long there will arise a new China with a big population and a great wealth of products, where life will be abundant and culture will flourish.” >Mao taught us that China’s expanding population was a good thing, and that population control was a tool used by imperialist powers to weaken the rising states. Subsequently, import of contraceptives was banned, birth control was increasingly condemned. A few years into this campaign, China saw a large hike in population growth, in 1955, some areas briefly re-allowed birth control, but fortunately this was curbed by the Great Leap Forward, in 1958. According to the secretary of Communist Youth League Hu Yaobang: >> “A larger population means greater manpower, the force of 600 million liberated people is tens of thousands of times stronger than a nuclear explosion. Such a force is capable of creating wonders which our enemies cannot even imagine. Facts since the Great Leap Forwards movement have sufficiently proved this point.” Thoughts? Does quantity truly have a quality all of it's own?
There’s a great advantage in quantity, but at the end of the day, don’t you think it really comes down to the value of life? It seems that the more important thing Mao said was “Of all things in the world, people are the most precious.” Sure, the high population is great for production, soldiers etc, but what Mao really wants is life to be abundant and culture to flourish
It's weird, this guy outright says it's natural and a violation of the natural order for men to not be ejaculating for the sake of reproduction, but nowhere do I see him attacking homosexuals outright. He instead goes after Porn, Prostitution, and contraception. But here's the thing, animals masturbate too, they just don't do it with pornography. You would think he'd call out gays or bisexual people for wasting seed but he doesn't.

How does the stock market work? Am I wrong in assuming that it has no direct link with the earnings of companies? Earnings go down, people expect other people to sell so stocks go down? Is that literally it? Because that sounds insane even for capitalist standards.
>>2080 It’s the same thing as a share except you don’t get any power over capital from it, but it still gets its exchange-value from the company through regular stock buybacks that basically “back” the stock (similar to how you back a currency, except the stock itself is being backed by a currency)

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What the hell is a dialectic? Comrade 05/15/2020 (Fri) 11:55:42 No. 1635 [Reply] [Last]
Can you nerds explain it using simple language?
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>>2058 I put it in quotes because that is how it appears on the picture. Honest question: are you actually this stupid or are you just looking for excuses to disregard the post because it hurt your feelings? This is an anonymous board, you don't have to lie to us.
>>2065 I asked first. do you even know the difference between the Dialectical and Socratic method?
>>2068 Of course I do. My turn: are you actually this stupid or are you just looking for excuses to disregard the post because it hurt your feelings?
>>2069 it’s quite clear the only person hurting anybody’s feelings is Hegel

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Corrupt Company masking as a "nonprofit" Cuntageboard 06/01/2020 (Mon) 16:54:17 No. 1813 [Reply] [Last]
Any one else seen of the scandel that collegeboard has gotten itself into? Long story short, because of coronachan, they did AP exams online, problem is that they had every person in the world take them at the same time, including international students who had to take them very early in the morning like 2 AM. What should be done about this? Collegeboard also seems to have monopolized education because of the fact that every university and college requires people to take the SAT which collegeboard owns My idea would be for the government to not recognize it as a nonprofit anymore by taxing the shit out of them. If they end up raising the prices of their tests, it would prove our point that they are a greedy company in disguise, or its gonna force them to just plain admit that they are a company, and that they will cut back on test costs to gain their nonprofit status back. Either way fuck this greedy company, Collegeboard is one of the higher powers that is fucking up the American education system
>>1813 unironically import the french model, which most continental europe uses, and which was also the standard in the eastern block: national examination covering 2-5 subjects which may vary depending on the curricula track (STEM-focused or humanities-focused), and competitive written exams for entry into higher education.
>>1898 This shit ain't happenin in Burgerstan without a revolution. Too many PROFITs to be lost

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Ψ-Psychology General Comrade 06/07/2020 (Sun) 23:55:38 No. 1864 [Reply] [Last]
Anybody know some good textbooks on modern psychology, any field goes, although social psychology would be the most important one. And yeah, psychology general now that we are in it.
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>>1881 What psychology majors read is typically going to be bound to liberal hegemonic principles, and thus, in some way or another, fundamentally reactionary. However, there are still somewhat modern texts worth reading (that come from a heterodox, psychologically critical point of view). For example, I'd recommend 'unscientific psychology' and 'lev vygotsky: revolutionary scientist' by Fred Newman.
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>>1864 greatest book on psychology and socialism that I've ever read
>>1946 Damn, Lebon wrote about socialism? cool, altought It must be a shit critique i think.
>>1864 REDpill me on Lacan

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University communists general Comrade 06/16/2020 (Tue) 15:32:42 No. 1943 [Reply] [Last]
This is a thread for communists who are (or are planning to) study at unnamed universities the world over. The thread is to serve as a mutual intellectual support system and meta-discussion for communist students to · share resources for picking and learning your object of study · discuss strategies for studies · weekly rhythms and scheduling outside of the classroom · organizing the student-body and/or spreading artistic agitation · all while ultimately staying safe and completing your studies ✊🚩🏴
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>>1944 >not knowing the difference between 'communists' and 'Communists'. Have you ever heard of Kropotkin, Malatesta and Makhno? All communists. Kropotkin even preferred the red flag over the black. >>1945 This one had a better OP.
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>>1950 Toilet stalls are a great starting point for immediate practice for messaging. Something as easy as a sharpie, or more advanced like stickers works great -- for revolutionary quotes, advertising radical student orgs, critiquing, some new event... Graffiti is only recommended in some area outside the premises, where you know there's no surveillance, perhaps on the road or electric boxes towards the nearest public transit (and make it in the middle of the night or something, but be aware that security could still be on watch over the general area (paid for by the uni) - so act with due caution if you'd do this). See the Situationist's theory of 'psychogeography' for more of this, but modify the context to the present one of abundant surveillance. I'd recommend you take the first month of casual strolling with a cap/sunglasses to self-surveil the surveillance, take a google-maps screenshot and mark out where the surveillance is most intense and where it radically decreases, taking into account windows and especially corners as well. A stencil graffiti of a communist quotation or a visible hammer and sickle makes the intellectual climate for students more liberating as they know there isn't all just 'apolitical' libs all over the place; it functions as a giant 'OK' sign those quiet. All this while never making your political views incriminatorily obvious as a 'Subversive Agitator' to potentially get you kicked out of the uni; it should all be carried out relatively secret until actions gets sprung up spontaneously, go ahead and support them, but still with some distance, acting like you just heard about it like everybody else, so as to not get targeted as 'the Leader'. Use a VPN for your devices, if things kick off don't use things like Facebook as they collaborate with authorities, but instead be the pseudonymous admin of a Riot.IM group or something and post that also in the stalls (this is after things have actually started rolling). Bam, maybe you've just radicalized several hundreds of students for the foreseeable future, who knows.
>>1950 Forcibly projecting late 60s Godard into every art student's retina on a 24 hour loop.
I hate my university, it is imperialist as fuck. I'm only going so I can become good at [STEM TOPIC] and use my skills to help overthrow capitalism.

/math/ general Comrade 04/04/2020 (Sat) 17:37:10 No. 344 [Reply] [Last]
All good communists study math. What are you studying right now? What is your favorite field of mathematics and why? Personally, I really like the book "Linear Algebra Done Right" by Sheldon Axler. It is on Libgen if you are interested and I attached a pdf.
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i'm studying the finite element method
>>1646 I'm more of a finite difference man, have you ever studied that?
I personally find math incredibly boring, don’t care for it.
>>347 Linear Algebra Probability Calculus
>>344 Everybody now some good books on that go rigorously through the math of a planned economy?, (aside from the soviet ones).

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Thoughts on this pic. Comrade 04/25/2020 (Sat) 17:00:37 No. 1334 [Reply] [Last]
Not so much on race but why did those countries get so far ahead from other countries? what were the material conditions that made Europe the breeding ground for innovation?
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>>1490 For better or for worse (worse, mostly) English is the de facto language of science and the world. At this point, it is those who refuse to learn English, who sequester themselves in their own language that are holding back progress. Spain has it's own internet and language subculture, Germans and Russians too, Chinese and Japanese as well, French too. So now I am expected to learn Spanish, German, French, Russian, Chinese and Japanese fluently just so I could speak to those people instead of them just learning English? I'd be open to all of us learning a common language like Esperanto, but I don't see a big push for it. And for the record, English is not my first language. I'm also not opposed to learning languages, I am learning one now because I live in a non-English speaking country that isn't my own. I also speak a little Spanish and I did five and two years of Italian and German, respectively. But I have no illusions that without years of intense study and immersion I could get close to a level in those languages where I can understand their scientific literature. Most people don't have time for that. We can analyse history for why English is the dominant language but crying about spilled milk isn't going to change the fact that for now we're stuck with English. You can get with the times, or continue complaining that Chinese scientists only learned English and not every language on the planet.
>>1334 "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers: Economic Change and Military Conflict from 1500 to 2000" by Paul Kennedy is a decent materialist analysis of this question. Free download of the book: https://b-ok.cc/book/1202051/0a82b6 The tl;dr answer is that the geopolitical fragmentation of Europe and constant wars helped to spur technological innovation (that has uneven benefits for different places, ex. Britain benefits more than Portugal from coal mining techniques used to drive steam engines). Colonizing countries generally didn't get wealthy due to their colonial conquests, colonial conquest was generally the result of an economic and technological gap between Britain and the Mughals, for example, that had been growing for some time.
>>1477 >Yeah so India has a low literacy rate compared to the rest of the world and somehow that proves how all the scientific advances made by the the rest of the world are unfair? How about India's literacy rate and scientific lack of achievement have the same underlying cause. Yes, they do, which is the comparative underdevelopment of India, something only as recent as the last couple hundred years. If your argument is that this is due the inherent nature of Indian genetics then I encourage you to walk into the cafeteria of any large tech company or university in the United States.
it doesn't matter because IQ fluctuates with each generation based on environmental factors on pregnant women. the reason the Mesopotamian got to civilization first is because they were on the fertile crescent, where farming was easy as fuck and they had loads of surplus resources to feed the brains of their offspring. there are also events in history where women undergo poverty due to some geopolitical event and then their children come out brainlets. basically IQ is epigenetic
>>1459 Are you sure it’s not 97% female

italian vs spanish political catholicism Comrade 06/13/2020 (Sat) 16:51:51 No. 1922 [Reply] [Last]
I'm reading Dylan Riley's [Civic Foundations of Fascism](https://b-ok.cc/book/5440703/4e76ad) and liking it quite a bit, but one thing that comes out pretty clearly is that while political Catholicism in Italy before and shortly after WWI had an independent and relatively "leftist" streak - lots of independent workers organizations and so on, probably most people reading this are familiar with the PSI/PPI alliance that might have been able to weather through the fascist threat if they could agree over some smaller stuff - Spanish political Catholicism was much more uniformly reactionary and under the direction of local landowners. And this happens despite obvious similarities between the countries - semiperipheral position in world-economy, historical catholicism obviously, very old "republican" associational traditions in the big cities, a liberal political system organized around clientelism and smoke-filled rooms. When I (or Riley for that matter) try to think of why political Catholicism in Italy would turn against the system, I think of things like "well the state built its power by crowding against the church, which in turn believed it was going to get wiped out by a cabal of freemasons" but that's obviously true of Spain as well, which IIRC actually built up even more bad blood with land reform and so on. And if I think of why they'd be dependent in Spain it's things like "well big landowners used the church to control peasants," and it's not clear why that wouldn't be true in Italy as well - in fact Riley emphasses how in each case local notables organized each initially, but then they became independent in Italy by the 1890s and never really in Spain. Maybe it's just something like "Italy had higher literacy rates and it's that much easier to self-organize?" But of course it's not like illiterate peasants never get mobilized by the left either.


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