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Any Gayfags here? Why are Gays so liberal compared to LBTQ+? Comrade 09/29/2020 (Tue) 20:25:18 No. 4375 [Reply] [Last]
It seems like the Democrats have done a great job of pinkwashing their party, the amount of Gays I see worshipping any Dem candidate--including Biden, who supported both DADT and DOMA, is entirely annoying. Why are Lesbians, Transbians, Trans*, and Bisexuals so much more radical overall than gay men? What's the issue? I see so many LBTQ+ people in socialist groups like FRSO or anarchist collectives but my fellow gays would rather hole up in bars or form Stonewall caucuses to support homophobic democrats.
Just some theories from a straighto, pinch of salt is implied. I would assume the privellege associated with being male in a patriarchal society. Trans people are such outcasts that their ideology must be radical, and we know how society feels about women's sexuality. Also no kids so they are more aligned with the ruling class because of the financial status it puts them in. I would guess lesbians are more likely to adopt and have higher emotional intelligence.
makes sense. I actually meant to post this in /leftypol/ and forgot I was browsing /edu/ It's really too bad that most gays dont realize that we're still oppressed. I don't think I've met a single cisgay man who was communist
As a fag I may have some insight. Gay men were very radical from the 60's to the AIDS crisis to DADT and other issues. The wealthy, white gay men that make up the Human Rights Campaign/LAMBDA Legal etc defanged the gay movement by promoting assimilation in the form of gay marriage, corporate wokeness/IDpol, and perpetuating the myth that gay men were all high-income DINKS that could be marketed to. In reality, there are more Gay men in poverty as a percentage than straight men. That is why today you see Goldman Sachs and Raytheon pride floats these days. Now that gay marriage is legal and being fired for being gay is not (well...they can make any other excuse to fire you) the wealthy cis white gay man is entirely driven by class interests instead of fearing of being persecuted or dying of a horrific incurable disease now that PREP is widespread. So now you have out and wealthy iBankers, Lawyers, Techies, etc that have a class interest in keeping their status and mainstream Gay culture, in my opinion, is heavily focuses on looks, muscules, status, and income so it makes sense for them to not be radical but still pay lip service to social liberalism by going to pride parades and fundraising for Mayor Pete, who is the apotheosis of the neoliberal gay PMC.
Gayanon here. I've met plenty but I agree with this post >>4833 Also, the fact that radical politics is going to appeal more to people who are socially oppressed would explain why there are so many trans people in the mix, but I think they're also more of a visible minority while gay men at this point have kind of blended in somewhat. In terms of gay left-wing radicals online with some degree of visibility, I'm thinking of Matthijs Krul (a.k.a. McCaine) who wrote one of the best articles on Nazi Germany that I've read: http://mccaine.org/2010/03/12/what-was-nazi-germany/ I don't know him, he lives in a completely different country, but he has a reading list that I also use personally. http://mccaine.org/2012/11/02/a-communism-reading-list/ I think the descriptions of gay culture's petit-bourgeois pathologies ITT are very accurate. But I also really like aspects of culture like the music and entertainment side of the house: https://youtu.be/E4SNXUM0X4A

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What's the deal with Nietzsche and his rabid followers? Comrade 06/24/2020 (Wed) 19:33:23 No. 2055 [Reply] [Last]
Is he like an old Jordan Peterson? A Rorschach test that says "water is wet"? Tolstoy wrote that Nietzsche wrote nothing insightful, that had he been alive earlier no one would have paid attention to his writings, that he and his prominence is a sign of intellectual decay. Trotsky wrote that the reason why Nietzsche's followers can be so radically different from each other is because they take what they want from Nietzsche and ignore whatever else is inconvenient for them. When someone points out the terrible things Nietzsche wrote, the response is either a) you're misinterpreting him! or b) his personal views are not reflective of his philosophy! or even c) you can't critique the genius of Nietzsche because he has rejected reason! Does this strike anyone else as eerily similar to Jordan Peterson and his rabid followers?
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>>2055 I’m reading on the Genealogy of morals right now, I have some questions. >Nietzsche says he’s against egalitarianism that reduces men to common, and power = good because it started this way in history and they establish themselves as good solely through themselves. the weak have slave morality in that identifies its oppressors as evil then subsequently themselves as good. What in the goddamn bootlicking bullshit is this? I somewhat looked fondly of Nietzsche before I actually read him. And the way he talks about race lmao It really does explain the modern far right-incel mentality though. Should I keep reading or find something better?
>>4892 What’s your contextual history with the rest of the western cannon? The dude can seem really strange and extreme if you don’t understand the systems and theories his entire philosophy is railing against. Just like most philosophers, he has interesting points and is a product of his time. If you aren’t enjoying it or really getting it, then I’d set him aside for a while.
>>4892 >the weak have slave morality in that identifies its oppressors as evil then subsequently themselves as good slave morality is a real thing and Marxists ought to oppose it. examples include christianity and pacifism
Has anyone read that critique by G. Lukacs?
>>4894 ik, it‘s just that out of the three masters of suspicions, his work is the most disappointing. More so o as I used to like him the most before I read any of them. >>4902 >Who can guarantee that modern democracy, still more modern anarchy, and indeed that tendency to the "Commune," the most primitive form of society, which is now common to all the Socialists in Europe, does not in its real essence signify a monstrous reversion—and that the conquering and master race—the Aryan race, is not also becoming inferior physiologically?) > Let us submit to the facts; that the people have triumphed—or the slaves, or the populace, or the herd, or whatever name you care to give them—if this has happened through the Jews, so be it! In that case no nation ever had a greater mission in the world's history. The 'masters' have been done away with; the morality of the vulgar man has triumphed. This triumph may also be called a blood-poisoning (it has mutually fused the races)—I do not dispute it; but there is no doubt but that this intoxication has succeeded. Feels like a bunch of morality of power and nazi-babble. Also I feel like Marx already formulated his ideas but better with his theory on ideology & religion..

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Mafarka the Futurist Comrade 10/06/2020 (Tue) 13:10:40 No. 4906 [Reply] [Last]
I'm looking for Marinetti's Mafarka the Futurist novel but I cannot find it anywhere. I've searched libgen and archive (dot) org but I didn't find an English translation. Can anyone post a copy or at least a link to it?

Knowledge/Skill Exchange Comrade 04/23/2020 (Thu) 10:50:52 No. 1291 [Reply] [Last]
Here we post our fields of expertise, in hopes to share the knowledge with our fellow comrades. Ask any questions to comrades in this thread regarding their skills, and post your own. Maybe we can create a chat eventually to teach things at a more in depth level. Me: Native English speaker, very good at math, okay at similar sciences, and computer science, can help with music regarding drums/guitar/songwriting etc. I'm particularly interested in learning Chinese (Mandarin), I've just started learning some basics, if anyone has any advice or resources for learning that would be great.
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>>4371 What do you mean by 'get started' exactly?
>>4371 Drawing with the right side of the brain and loomis of course.
I'm a creative media student God help me with a decent level of skill with video editing. I was hoping one day I could email Cockshott to help with the editing in his lecture videos
>>4848 Just go for it, it seems he's quite responsive. However he seems exceedingly busy so idk how keen he would be to try organise it. Definitely worth a shot however.
>>4384 Why is this image so attractive?

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Audio thread Anonymous 08/28/2019 (Wed) 14:29:26 No. 3931 [Reply] [Last]
Post audio sources
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_Adolph Reed On Identity Politics, Reparations, And Removing Monuments_ <What politics is and what it isn't and what apolitical movement does look like and what it doesn't look like and how many things look like they are meaningful political action or are treated as if they are a meaningful political action but really aren't and can kind of delude us into thinking that we are making progress when we aren't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DirAIkDJ7H8
>>4058 can you say what text to speech software you used for narrating the texts ?
move thread to /edu/ ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIEFD257E4U Michael Parenti conspiracy and class power
>>4320 what Marx meant with Religion is the opium of the masses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4aKI66j9hw

General Education for Brainlets Comrade 09/10/2020 (Thu) 16:15:58 No. 3916 [Reply] [Last]
A lifetime of undiagnosed learning disorders, educational neglect and unproductive escapism has reduced my grey matter into a vestigial organ. I essentially missed out on the entirety of highschool but was able to work with what I had and managed to get a GED plus a tiny smattering of community college. But I started to hit the brainlet wall again and I realized how spotty and full of holes my whole foundation is. I was too ashamed at the time to ask for help and I no longer have access to professional educators so I might as well ask an anonymous imageboard. Do y'all have any good resources or books for someone looking to restart their education from basics? Assume that I don't know anything aside from basic literacy and numbers. Maybe not even that.
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>>3916 Did you look into khanacademy's courses? They have math from the 1st grade all the way to the high school and college level as well as any other topic commonly taught in school Also check out this https://4chan-science.fandom.com/wiki/Mathematics#Precalculus
>>3916 Try Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States ( https://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html ) It's easy to read and great at presenting at history from the point of view of the average person.
>>3916 It really helps if you specify what you're interested in (both in the sense of what entices you and what you think it would be useful for you to learn). "General education" is a meme outside of acquiring the most basic foundations. IMO it's better to pick something concrete and go for it
>>3919 >>3921 >>3922 Thank you very much. I will definitely check these out. I appreciate the time and effort you've taken to help me out, no matter how small. I even appreciate maths is fun's non-threatening child-friendly aesthetic. >>3923 Thanks for your guidance. To say that I've been unfocused is an understatement. So I have bits of an education here and there. I really enjoyed the history courses I took as an adult (mainly ancient history) because the professor was at least engaging and the content didn't have too many dates or dead people to remember. I also never really paid much attention in science. I'm not a flat-earther or anything but past a certain point I just don't really understand how or why the world functions.
>How to Read a Book >Atomic Habits >Make it Stick >Deep Work These create a foundation for consumption of information. Read these so that everything you read subsequently will be effectively absorbed. After that it depends on your interests. Like the other anon said, A People's History of the U.S. is a great start, but it's written with the assumption that you know the general U.S. propaganda history. How to Read a Book has a great list of books of the western cannon to read. It all really depends on your interests.

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How to get woke cheat sheet Comrade 05/03/2020 (Sun) 19:41:00 No. 1453 [Reply] [Last]
/Leftypol/ didn't bite, let's see if /edu/ acctually might read something. >Read capital and complimentary theory. >No! Really, READ capital and complimentary theory. >No, not like that! >Ok basically read this quote down below by fucking Karl Marx. >And at least read the text on point 1 down below. >Why? > To understand why your current party isn't even being shut down or disturbed by the Porky Police. >You are in your current state, totally harmless. >Let's not keep it that way. "It is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be. Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner." - Karl Marx 1: https://www.krisis.org/1999/manifesto-against-labour/

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bump, props cus scientific socialism.
Michael Parenti Videos in youtube
Huh OP that's Robert Kurz in the pic, have you read him? https://libcom.org/history/expropriation-time-robert-kurz
This thread should have been called "Critique of labor" or "Critique of the value form". Bump nonetheless.

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Anyone have a PDF of Charles Fourier's "The Hierarchies of Cuckoldry and Bankruptcy"? I need it because reasons. Comrade 10/02/2020 (Fri) 18:49:04 No. 4742 [Reply] [Last]
We should make a general history guide for an overview on leftists history movements/people/thinkers that type of thing
Learn to use the catalog: >>2112 >>2169

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Spanish Civil War Comrade 04/02/2020 (Thu) 08:26:40 No. 305 [Reply] [Last]
Thread for discussing the spanish civil war. I start the thread with a short paper on Soviet Union's involvement 1936-1939.
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Morning Star review of an audio play about two volunteers in the Spanish Civil War. It might be worth a listen. (£2 per episode, or £6 for the whole thing.) https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/c/dare-devil-rides-jarama-pic-come
What do people here make of Orwell's interpretation of the war? His theory goes that the MLs shot themselves and the war effort in the foot by siding with the liberals instead of committing to full social revolution like what POUM and CNT were doing. He thinks if all the communists overthrew the Republican liberals, that they could've inspired a rural insurgency behind Franco's lines and eventually won.
I've been reading this recently: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/agustin-guillamon-theses-on-the-spanish-civil-war-and-the-revolutionary-situation-created-on-ju It has quite some hot takes about it and my general understanding of the events is not deep enough to tell how valid they are.

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What DEFINES left-wing, centrist and right-wing Communism? Comrade 04/14/2020 (Tue) 16:24:42 No. 1043 [Reply] [Last]
I hear Deng and Bukharin be described as right-wing, Stalin as center, Bordiga as left -- but then where the fuck would people like Lenin, Trotsky, Mao and Cockshott fit in to this? Lenin had a big shift in positions (before vs after the revolution), Trotsky was clearly very similar to Lenin in positions after, but he often gets called "left" by Stalinists. Mao clearly was more sympathetic to Stalin than either Trotsky or post-Stalin right-wing revisionists, yet he is occasionally slandered as "ultra-left" (which is ridiculous), and then Cockshott went through "ML" (centrist, I suppose) parties, get kicked out for "ultra-leftism" and subsequently writes his seminal work TANS, including a critique of the scrapping of soviet cybernetics in the USSR, bourgeois elements of democratic centralism, and proposes to move towards communism immediately via the DotP through the revolutionary utilization of cybernetics instead of any market mechanisms (market mechanisms seemingly being supported by both right-wing and centrist Communists). To me, intuitively, it sounds like Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and Mao, in hindsight, had more in common than they were willing to admit (all "centrists", but how would one divide them into center-left-, center and center-right?), while Cockshott clearly drifted left (toward Bordiga). I may be missing something, That's why I want to open it up for collective discussion with you all here on /edu/.
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Add Wolff next to Tito.
>>1193 Theorists and people who've never been in power shouldn't be on this list.
>>1193 Kim Il Sung: center-c Jong Il and Jong Un: center-r Laos: right
>>1193 Raul Castro and Khrushchev are more like center-r. They did not shift towards privatization as much as Gorbachev and Deng did.
>>1108 It depends when. He is about the same as old Bukharin, and to the right of young Bukharin.


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