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Comrade 07/18/2020 (Sat) 05:54:06 No. 2504 [Reply] [Last]
I don't want to leave the house, do any work or anything at all. I would rather lay in bed all day and do heroin. In a socialist society, what happens when I simply refuse to work at all? Do I get housed and fed, or do I starve?
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>>2518 Feel free to have an argument hedonist.
you go to rehab
my take is that in socialism, if you don't work you get like your basic subsistence met, like you don't starve, but that's it, you don't get to enjoy the good things in life without doing some work
"He who does not work, does not eat" - Lenin
Really it depends on the level of productive forces/abundance in the society. Compare "From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution" with "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." I think, for example, in a socialist (lower-phase communism) Germany, you would be provided with a house and food, but probably not much more than that. In a sufficiently abundant higher-phase communism, I'm sure you could be afforded some luxury goods, depending on the level of abundance. People who don't wish to work (where what counts as work is much broader than modern-day capitalism) would be rare. The reason why "forced labour" existed in the USSR was simply because the society was poor and needed to develop quickly, etc.

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Comrade 04/22/2020 (Wed) 23:12:22 No. 1282 [Reply] [Last]
Educate me on weapons
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>>2103 I think it's to get the muscles you use for aiming stronger, that way you can be steadier.
>>2103 dont this this fucking retarded plus steady aim only recquires normal strenght
>>2121 Something tells me the only retard here is you, though feel free to prove me wrong.
>>2103 Yes, but not necessarily bricks. US Army had us use our canteens for example.
>>2103 >Is it really that heavy/straining to aim with a rifle for a prolonged period of time that this is necessary? Try it yourself. Hold something 5lbs (~2.25 freedom hating units) out with an extended arm for as long as you can. Isometrics will kick your ass.

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Cuba and Venezuela before the revolution. Comrade 04/11/2020 (Sat) 02:08:21 No. 754 [Reply] [Last]
What do people exactly mean when they claim Cuba and Venezuela were richer before their socialist governments? was it close to an oligarchy?
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>Dirty commies took away grandpa’s slaves, they should all be exterminated, blacks belong to whites and Cuba belongs to America Basically this
For what it's worth Venezuela in 1996 had an inflation rate of only 100% as opposed to back in 2018 when it reached up to 130,060%. https://youtu.be/R3CR6MzcGD8
>>763 Cuba was actually a center for sex tourism, much like Thailand or the Phillipines today.
>>2632 What exactly caused this inflation are they printing that much money ore is this some US chenanigans
Some little videos about it. At least Venezuela, it's common knowladge that Cuba under Batista was a playground for mafias and rich gringos. Videos about Venezuela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvh_mCQbExk Part One https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJZ9QJx_Xqw Part Two

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Catalyst pdfs Comrade 07/22/2020 (Wed) 04:57:56 No. 2651 [Reply] [Last]
I always thought that godawful ligature was a rendering error. I can't believe people unironically like it.

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Sal 06/30/2020 (Tue) 03:41:30 No. 2123 [Reply] [Last]
What makes someone a nazbol or "reactionary leftist"?
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>>2177 >workerist >genocide back
>>2182 Not an argument.
>>2177 They don't. They think Soviet system is "Jewish" and they were the first to accuse Soviets of killing 100 billion. They just like the aesthetics and symbols of Nazbolism.
a reactionary is one who seeks to defend the system. their reaction is one of picking up arms in the name of capitalism. "left reactionaries," are those who have a veneer of do gooder, but where the rubber meets the road, you see their ideology is just a defense of capitalism. (except with black/gay CEOs for example) so when some 23 year old freshly minted critical theory person comes on the scene and obfuscates class consciousness by directing rage towards selected outgroups, they are in practice, a reactionary leftist. in their mind, they are "on the right side of history," but when you go to the root of their beliefs, they still want to preserve hierarchy, and still enable some rich fucks to control millions of people's lives, because their analysis ends at the thin veneer of "see i said the good thing on social media."

Obscure Soviet Vehicles (and Regular Ones too, why not) Comrade 07/06/2020 (Mon) 00:01:03 No. 2198 [Reply] [Last]
Just saw this video on the Soviet Antarctic ice cruisers called Kharkovchanka, and thought it was pretty good. And I remember seeing here and there in all manner of different threads stuff like Soviet nuclear icebreakers and massive scaled naval hovercraft. So I figure weird and supercool Soviet vehicles like those would be a great topic for an /edu/ thread, as well as any normal Soviet vehicles of course because they're cool too. https://youtu.be/f6R-h06IsJw
this is also an interesting project that could have make a lot of things easier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOzKuEhrMY I don't understand why people keep telling there's no innovation under socialism, the way I see it, there's only innovation that's actually needed. The only "innovation" capitalism came up with is technology that dumbs down the populations into obedient consumers.

Cuckoldry Comrade 06/29/2020 (Mon) 03:05:00 No. 2112 [Reply] [Last]
Does anyone have a PDF of Charles Fourier's "The Hierarchies of Cuckoldry and Bankruptcy"?
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>>2169 legend thanks. uploaded this to libgen
>>2169 Don't destroy it anon, it's perfectly readable.
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>>2169 Fucking awesome dude. Thank you for what you've done
>>2169 Thank you, based anon

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Libertarian marxist? Comrade 04/06/2020 (Mon) 13:08:36 No. 433 [Reply] [Last]
I'm not sure sure where I sit on the left exactly because i am very sympathetic to alot of ansyn and mutualist anarchist models and also strongly center my belifes around the labor theory of value but I don't belive in the dissolution of the state but instead the state only existing as a democratic and transparent beuracratic entity that can mediate between potential disputes between communes and plan for projects that would involve multiple communes coperation Would it be apt to refer to this as libertarian Marxism?
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>>2250 I don't think socialism in one country means what you think it does.
>>2251 I don't think socialism in one country means what you think it does.
>tfw shitflinging is easier than reading the primary sources to see what stalin said or didn't said So much for the education board
>>2254 I keep saying it over and over, this place isn't going to attract /edu/-interested people as long as it caters to the /a/ and /v/ crowd.
>>2257 I don’t think it’s /a/ and /v/ as much as it is stupidpolyps and chapoids.

List of successful socialist countries Historian 03/11/2020 (Wed) 13:17:15 No. 53 [Reply] [Last]
You've heard this argument time and time again that there has never been a successful socialist country, so I thought it would be nice to have a thread talking about successful socialist countries. Post history, share sources, let's make a list!
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>>339 >>330 >>329 >>309 These pics are from the early 2010s. In those days "The USSR/China/DPRK wasn't real socialism" was unironically used a lot more by leftists online, so anticommunists would regularly spam the original "Only my specific form of socialism can work". Leftists at that time tried to counter that by making these lists even if it meant taking a bunch of people who had nothing to do with each other and throwing them all into the same bag. They're basically dead memes, I don't think I've actually seen anyone use them in years.
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>>53 >This shit anit-uthoritarian meme again
>>58 go away radlib, this is /edu/
>>64 >China >Laying the groundwork Barf. They clearly went off the rails to a fairly Nationalist State Capitalism.
>>2266 Lmao you're not fooling anyone.

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Why humans? Comrade 04/08/2020 (Wed) 14:09:12 No. 557 [Reply] [Last]
What makes us so special? What makes us different? Humans are primates, when I look at other people I see, in every sense of the word, an ape. We are animals,we look like animals, we smell like animals. Thinking of what we really are makes my head spin. What makes us special? What makes us different? What makes our lives meaningful? Are we even special? Are we even different? Are we meant to be in an unending war for dominance of nature that inevitably ends in our mutual destruction? Are we meant to become stewards of the Earth, the next stage in energy usage for Life, living in harmony with the Earth as its first sentient aspect? Why were there no others, why only us? In 500 million years of animal life, why only Man? Can more come after us, if we go extinct? Is our purpose merely to choose for ourselves why we exist? Are we free, or are we slaves? Why do we individually seem so limited, and yet together humanity seems to be without limits? What is the dialectical explanation for Man? His consciousness? His relationship to Nature? His drive to spirituality? Is it a misunderstanding on Man's part? Does Man not see that those aspects he has are those he shares with Nature? Gained from Nature? Marx wrote that many species engage in labor; yet seemingly only man labors first in his mind, then with his body. Why are We in this regard? Our notions of honor, of courage, of willpower, of morality; only we created cultures. And yet, other species experience these emotions from which such ideas rose. Other species experience love. They feel fear. They summon bravery to conquer that fear. The materialist relation between Man and Nature, between Man and Himself; why is Man, why are We? These questions, they haunt me frequently, I wish to understand, to Nature we seemingly stand above as gods, and yet we are of Nature, not apart from it; and to us aspects of Nature, like our Sun, like our Universe; they seem yet greater than we could ever hope to be. Help me to understand.
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>>1330 Haven't crocodiles been around for longer than us?
>>1809 Who says we don't?
>>1809 I've posted it before and I'll post it again. Read this all, gotta be a little patient though
>>557 My dear friend, the answer lies in material conditions and a philosophy. Please give it a read will ya'? I swear, I hate people who have existential crisis when they have learned that their higher being (or what many people call soul) is attached to material and will die once your body dies.
We labor, which then forms our inner monolog culminating in our consciousness. Animals don't labor. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1876/part-played-labour/index.htm


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