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I watched the first 6 episodes of NGE おたく 06/12/2020 (Fri) 22:51:52 No. 599
And wow, I fucking hated it to be perfectly honest. It seems like the entire show is only about Shinji's angst (and Rei increasingly I'm sure) and the characters various emotional issues, but like, okay, who cares? The situations they're thrown into are totally absurd and ridiculous so how can I take any of this drama stuff seriously? Like these kids are the last best hope of mankind and they seem to be totally unsupported by anyone? Shinji was gonna live in a totally empty tenement and it's only his superior's minor moment of reasonable judgement that means he lives with her instead (and she is clearly no kind of parent figure), and Rei lives in a dark, dingy slum dwelling made of all concrete with nobody taking care of her either? Like, their emotional reactions seems somewhat understandable but also completely dull and uninteresting because the situation they're in is absurd (and even then they both come off as pathetic and unlikeable - and no you can't say 'but that's the point!!', that doesn't make it entertaining to watch). The less said about the non-angst portions of the story the better, the 'fights' are 10 minutes of foreplay for like 60 seconds of action if that, and while that's a common problem with anime, that doesn't make it excusable. Yes this series is old and I'm sure it has inspired so much but people still recommend to watch it and it just seemed like garbage. Almost nothing is explained which means I can't possibly feel invested in this absurd world in any way. Every part of the setting seems to have been created with 'style over substance' in mind, urgh, just overall I found it absurd. Try not to give too much spoilers because I guess I might still try watch it, but I really don't see it redeeming itself. Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
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>>1745 the mangaka is a dude and a major reifag and he still doubled down on kawarushinji, the entire point was for their relationship to have a heavy yaoi feeling from the beginning, it's why anno had a literal fag write the episode and told him to make it even gayer after the initial script man I agree shinj wasnt full on lusting after a dude but to say they "just had kinship" is pure denialism and ur probably a closet fag
>>1973 >the mangaka 1) Reminder that manga came AFTER the anime. 2) A Fujo doesn't have to be a girl >the entire point was for their relationship to have a heavy yaoi feeling from the beginning >Anno hired a literal fag and had him make it gayer Source? >to say they "just had kinship" is pure denialism and ur probably a closet fag wrong.
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>>1976 Fujo is quite literally not the term for a male obsessed with bl pairings. The mangaka is also not one of these people. That is your insecure projection. The manga was also started before the anime but it is also it's own canon. >Source? Why dont you do some basic research on a show your having hot takes about instead of living in a solipsistic bubble with pet theories not based in reality? Excerpts from the first and one of the longest interviews after the airing of eva with the most popular yaoi magazine in japan: https://evaresources.wordpress.com/staff/1997-june-anno/ >wrong Your head canon is what is wrong. Pic related is the cover of the book the previously posted page comes from. Face it. Your favorite sadboi anime has romantic gay shit in it.
>>1976 >>1979 the cover didn't load for some reason but here's a link to the amazon page itself https://www.amazon.com/Anno-Hideaki-Parano-Evangelion-this/dp/4872333160
>>1979 >Why dont you do some basic research on a show Considering that I've been an EVA-fag for roughly a decade I do plenty of research, however there is also so many interviews and media that it is quite easy to miss this stuff. >your "You're" >Fujo is quite literally not the term for a male obsessed with bl pairings Yes yes I know Fudan whatever. >That is your insecure projection Yes, so insecure that I don't read Yaoi and actively avoid it in media >The manga was also started before the anime but it is also it's own canon. Started being a keyword, the anime is far more important in many ways >it's own canon Which is my point. >interview Did you read this yourself? Anno contradicts himself <I’d sort of stopped understanding Kaworu-kun, so I couldn’t discount the possibility that I’d made a mistake. He’s just an odd guy. *laughs* His image is a little different. Well, as a character, Ishida-kun’s voice was incredibly good, so I wondered whether the stuff that I’d simply thought up on my own wasn’t a little insufficient. So h literally admits to not being the one with yaoi intent, and just having the thees thrown in because he didn't know how else to flesh out the character. >face it Yeah you've just proven that there IS gayshit in the manga which isn't what I denied. I denied that the dialogue and actual depiction in the anime were outright homosexual. The cover page you posted is for the MANGA, which has quite a few differences in interactions.
>>1983 kek I recognize your smoothbrain posting style now >anno contradicts himself so it's my special snowflake interpretation over established canon Yeah I'm gonna go with word of god's literal description of kaworu as a homo love interest. Feel free to keep living in denial over your own and this anime's faggotry tho. You could also try actually watching the show and paying attention this time :) >The cover page you posted is for the MANGA, which has quite a few differences in interactions. lmao
>>1995 >anno contradicts himself so it's my special snowflake interpretation over established canon Nice strawman faggot >watch it and pay attention I did fag > word of god's literal description of kaworu as a homo love interest <Imma just ignore that word of god also states that he didn't know what to do with the characterization so he just had it thrown in for the lulz last minute Yeah this is why word of god is considered unreliable, especially since Anno himself complained about budget cuts only to get debunked by the budget managers in other interviews. TL;DR: no argument; read more smart alek and don't take things at face value.
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>>599 it gets interesting after ep 16 and tbh the evangelion manga is way better than the anime
>>2220 >Manga is better LOL no.
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>>2220 >it gets interesting when you're more than halfway through why do pseuds do this to themselves?
>>600 The first time I watched Clockwork Orange, I had a real hard time watching it cause I was hating the main character.
>>602 I was half-expecting my effortpost I made on leftypol to be there. tl;dr, I got something very different when I saw it when I was young, than when I was older. And as another poster noted above, I understood more intimately the adult characters. One real cool thing is the contrast between the end of the world and angels blowing shit up, with sunny days and boring cicadas. Also maturity, contrasted with wanting to connect with others on a "real" level (which has been something that psychedelics have made me more aware of), and a whole host of psychological traumas we all have. Maturity seeming to include an effort to suppress traumas (rather than solve them and overcome them). As I'm more mature, I see this in adults all the time. Depends how empathic I'm being, there are times when other's traumas and insecurities are acutely apparent of whatever they're complaining or anxious about. I'm no exception, I'd say most of my adult life has been uncovering traumas and working through them. I have the suspicion a lot of people don't do this. Leftism has also made the trauma work easier. Anyways, I'm rambling. The point is that EVA was an interesting series for me that touched on a lot of topics I care about. I think that at least makes it a good drama and a good sci fi series. It's not so much 2deep4you, many times it's just what you vibe with at the moment, sometimes EVA is not it.
just watch starting from episode 14 if youre too gay to watch fight scenes
>>2282 Don't do this.
>>599 >Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian. u fucking wot m8. There's nothing 2deep4u about Godfather, it was the most successful film of all time when it came out.
Don't know about you op, but what I enjoyed about evangelion was the kinda quiet scenes the series have. Like in the first episodes when they are scenes of the city but nothing special happening, just the sound of birds, or "nature"; or when Shinji its at the hospital and you can hear the lights flickering, a loudspeacker in the background. I think those calm scenes do a good contrast with the fighting scenes, or when the characters have to deal with other issues. That feeling of being somewhere you may know, somewhere you may have visited before, or at least hearing something that seems quite familiar makes the series quite special to be honest :^). It's like having some sense of calmness before the storm, I guess.
>>1970 >Damn, everyone here needs therapy. I guess that's what the instrumentality was for. Yeah but despite that Shinji at the end of the movie seems to be as mentally troubled as he was at the beginning of the movie.
>>2470 He's alright by the end of the last episode of the show though, can read that as taking place after the very end of EoE.
>>2470 It's not obvious, but his grief is symbolised the last moment in the film when Shinji briefly chokes Asuka, but cannot bare to tighten his grip at all. He let's go, so to speak, all his baggage. And, all he is left to do is lay there. The ending is bittersweet. I think Asuka's line at the end, "You're disgusting.," is two faced. She's a tsundere. Even though the content of her words are harsh, her tone is neutral. I think it would be read the line instead as "I need you." Watch at your accord, it's a spoiler. https://youtu.be/pVeKyqV1jWU
>I have the attention span of an 11 year old: the post
>>2220 >takes out all the crazy weird shit that made the second half so interesting >better m8 NGE is indistinguishable from its many shitty knockoffs from the late 90s/00s once you take out Hideaki Anno's auteur fugue state out from the equation
>>2568 >>2637 Thanks for your responses. I can only say there's many ways to interpret Evangelion. But I guess that's one of the things that makes the show attractive. >>2637 I don't think that one can describe Asuka as just being a tsundere. I think there's more to it.
>>3021 There's more to her, of course, but Asuka is the archetypal tsundere.
>>3028 I supposed the Asuka/Rei debate has died down finally if there hasn't been any reaction to this.
>>3035 Do you come from EvaGeeks or something? NGE debate has died down in general.
>>3059 Well there's has been a little evangelion hype since last year due to the series being in Netflix, and that the last of the rebuild films is coming out this year.
>>1973 >it's why anno had a literal fag write the episode and told him to make it even gayer after the initial script Can anno get more based? Also, Eva is a hegelian series.
>>3059 /a/ still had regular rei vs asuka threads on 8ch
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Rei Bass Guitar
So, who you guys think is best girl?
>>4052 As OP, Asuka, at least she seems to have a personality.
>>4052 They're all unstable bitches I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot dick, but I do have a thing for fiery girls, so if I had to choose it'd be Asuka.
>>4052 I was all about Asuka at 13, but now that I'm almost 30 I think Misato is best girl.
>>4056 Have you finally finished watching the whole series?
>>4052 Rei. before she dies her character progression and caring nature by the end show her to be a very good, if (like all of them) broken person. Asuka, is similar from a different end, but anyone who's actually had a girlfriend like her, knows that the amount of effort and problems caused is troublesome, unless you're a really chill person.
>>4062 Hell no, this is just based on what little I know. Asuka is usually always smug or smiling, that's cute, Rei is always apathetic and somber. I don't have time for that shit.
>>4075 >Rei is always apathetic and somber. <I can't pay attention to facial expressions, so I'll take the fake ones plastered on by an aggressive, abusive girl than one by a calmer one.
>>600 >NGE gets better lmao no Don't waste your time OP. The characters only get more annoying, the plot only gets more absurd and the lore of everything is never explained properly. NGE is the pinnacle of psued bullshit and babbies first philosophy. If it were made today, people would be railing on it each week talking about how ridiculous the episode was or how annoying Asuka was. By all means stick it out to the end (by which I mean EoE, not just the end of the series) but you'll only get more annoyed
>>4085 Oh look it's the unironic "2Deep4Me so it's pseud-shit" poster. I wondered how long you'd take to post here.
>>4063 >but anyone who's actually had a girlfriend like her, knows that the amount of effort and problems caused is troublesome There's an alternate live sequence that was meant to be in EoE (but was later deleted) where Asuka is hooked up with Toji. So I guess that's how she'd be in any relationship. By the way, one interesting aspect of the Eva fandom is the shipping (even though the characters are all fucked up to be in any kind of romantic relation, aside for the fact they are all just 14 year old kids).
>>4114 Thee Asuka vs Rei argument is a classic indeed. I have some posts from leftyweebpol I made about preference and their brokeness, but I'm probably going to wait on reposting them when I can organize my time a bit better
>>4115 Well, they both are great, they have their ups and downs. But if I have to choose, I'd choose Asuka. I wouldn't mind being always there for her whenever she needs me, aside for doing all the housework for her. Plus, she's a redhead, and redheads attract me.
>>2337 Yes. The contrast of the end of the world with those moments of nothing happening. I insist, this is the best series I have ever seen in my life. I think there is a lot of hegelian/freudean analysis to get out, which I haven't seen anybody write about. >>2470 The brilliant thing is that Shinji is the one that needs therapy the least. >>2637 I interpreted that as Asuka hating Shinji because he no longer hated Asuka enough. Asuka hates herself so much, that she hates Shinji for not hating her.
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>>4052 Misato is the only correct choice.
>>5138 Excellent taste
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>>4083 Correct.
>no you don’t get to say “but that’s the point” But...it is?
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>>4063 >anyone who's actually had a girlfriend like her, knows that the amount of effort and problems caused is troublesome, unless you're a really chill person. That shit is like candy to me, reminds me of my mom
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I'm calling Asushin victory in the next Evangelion. I'm basing this a process of elimination and the ending of EoE. Kaworu is dead, Rei will be used in the instrumentality and Mari doesn't fit the ending thematically. Since the instrumentality will be started with 01 and Asuka lacks her Evangelion it's safe to assume she'll be in the middle of it. Barring Anno dropping a brick on her head she'll be the last one standing with a confession. Tic toc Mariasufags, tic toc.

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