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Lolipol Anonymous 09/14/2020 (Mon) 08:44:35 No. 2865
Why a lot of leftists hate lolis? Are they retarded or just thinking loli mean Pedophile?
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>>2964 It's just a drawing, guy. I like drawing the human body, mostly muscular men, but just for you, I'm gonna try my hand at something else. Also, why is anyone arguing with a loser that wants to ban the internet? Let him live out his fantasy by ignoring him. Bonus: posts things he won't like.
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>>2992 >spoilered pic is literally SFW and has nothing to do with SEXUALIZING lolis <hurr this'll triggur him Thanks for showing zero reading comprehension brainlet. >Lets spam things he don't like because if you think drawn kiddie shit is bad you hate the internet Actually I enjoy the internet and find that being casual and occasionally politically incorrect is fine and relaxing. what I have absolutely no tolerance for is even the remotest implication of child-sex, real or not. >"It's just a drawing" Lazy fucking argument. With that justification I can go draw portraits of Hitler sitting on the emaciated corpses of Holocaust victims and fucking Eva Braun...disgusting It's still pornography depicting children, just in cartoon form. You can babble all you like about the harm done (and ignore the harm it does to the consumer by way of normalization of child sexualization), but pornography isn't defined by harm done. If a cartoon or drawing depicts children sexually, it is cartoon child porn. It might not be 'real' but it's the same difference as 1st and 3rd degree murder. >ignore him <he says while replying >try my hand at something else Go ahead, like I said already, I'm not really trying because there is no point dying on a hill for degenerates. I won't bother with writing exhaustive walls of text in response to equally massive diatribes defending this cartoon child porn
>>2927 No rape from as209 or whatever his name is
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I don't really give a fuck because lolicons are faggots regardless of whether it is genuinely paedo-shit or not. Just going to pose this question and GTFO because this thread is shit. What exactly is going through a niggas head when they're making/watching a clearly under-age anime girl suck someone off in some really oddly high quality image/animation... If it's not the age number because "le 300 year old vampire-dragon" then one concludes the attraction is the childlike body then... HMMMMMMM!!!! And inb4 "cuteness" or some shit - that's what petite is for, see >>166 as an example of this. Saying "at least it's better than actual CP" is a hilariously shit argument. Do you want a medal for being a decent human being and not actually committing crime? 5 years later and DemolitionD+ still has the best take: https://www.clipzui.com/video/l3t4j5t2k3h5u363z416c4.html
>>2964 Im starting to think that you are just a regular fascist/Nazbol/Natso. You're assuming im a lolicon (I'm not) Your bellowing is already annoying, you are not making a point, you are not givin any evidence, you are not applying any type of materialism on your analysis. This is the last thing im gonna addres you again, you can ignore sauces and evidence and keep saying what you want, im not going to give you more attention. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MZk8bm6fbAF1Dcu2G24M1P7pmDoGbz-f6pJaPM5QfxU/edit
Honestly both Anti-Loli and Pro-Loli arguments are trash, simply due to the lack of research on pedophilia as a psychological phenomenom rather than a criminal one, as in, the act itself rather than the reasons for why someone becomes a pedo, although I'm gonna try to see another thing here, the Prevalence of Pedophilia. Now a question for everyone in this thread, biologically speaking, when does a human should start having sexual attraction to another? I assume most of you will answer that biologically speaking it should happen when one is capable of having children, and when does this starts? Puberty, more specifically for girls 1 month after their first period. So when exactly a boy and a girl starts puberty? It varies from person to person, but it's generally around the 10-12 range with common exceptions as young as 7 and as old as 14, now seeing that people is able to have children around the ages of 10-12, does that mean that sexual attraction to children of this age(note that it's not a PRIMARY or DOMINANT sexual attraction) is actually normal sexual behavior for humans? Maybe, I barely seen any research exploring the topic so I really cannot say, what we can do is look historically for answers tho, seeing the age of consent in different points of time. Now when you look historically, you do not find much due to lack of research, not only that but until the 1800s age of consent was embedded with age of marriage, which does not stricly but is a good indicator of age of consumation(that is age of which niggas lose their virginity), which, from what I researched, is around the 7-14 year old range, 7 being the lowest and 10-12 being recommended, age of marriage that is, if we look at Colonial America also, lots of instances of people marrying children around that range. For the first age of consent laws separated from marriage, which began around the early 1800s, it was usually set at the 10-12 year old range as well, I think some of you are aware of the infamous Delaware age of consent set at 7 years old no? There's also certain scientific researchs that I found, that I could not find the full papers, but bring interesting results: "Hanson and Gluckman, who respectively head the Centre for the Developmental Origins of Health and Disease (DOHaD) at the University of Southampton, and the Liggins Institute at the University of Auckland, New Zealand, researched the age of puberty stretching back beyond the Stone Age. They found that Paleolithic girls arrived at menarche - the first occurrence of menstruation - between seven and 13 years. This is a similar age to modern girls, which suggests that this is the evolutionarily determined age of puberty in girls." As well as "A peer-reviewed scientific journal study (Behavior Therapy 26, 681-694, 1995), conducted by Kent State University, 1995 (Lori L. Oliver, Gordon C. Nagayama, Richard Hirschman) was conducted on a sample of normal (adult attracted) male volunteers using the "penile plethysmograph". The team carried out hundreds of tests exposing men to female adult and child images. 95% exhibited arousal to the female adult images. A staggering 88.7% exhibited arousal to the female child (less than 12 years old) images. Prior to the study, 80% of the participants claimed to have no attraction to children and all of them had no history of illegal or legal youth attracted behavior." If any of you could find those studies I be grateful. Now does this mean attraction to 10-12 years olds is actually normal sexual behavior? I don't fucking know since there's not a lot of research put into it and I'm not a sexologist, it does indicates tho that people attracted to those age ranges are far more numbered than people imagine tho, which is rather concerning. Sources: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051201022811.htm (Ye I know it's bad but the link from this newspaper to the research from the Uni leads to a dead page) https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/ (it gives the sources so not as bad as one may think) There was also a link to the full Decretum Gratiani that it stated the recommended age of marriage in Medieval Europe to be at 7 but I lost the link to it.
>>3002 >>3004 A friend sent the Decretum Gratiani about it as well for me: http://legalhistorysources.com/Canon Law/MARRIAGELAW.htm It's very long tho, so I give one of the excerpts that I found, but it's also a great read to understand how marriages and shit worked in Medieval Europe: "Gratian: Betrothals cannot be contracted before the seventh year. For they can be contracted only with consent, which requires each party to understand what they agree to. This proves that betrothals cannot be contracted between children, because the debility of age prevents consent." http://legalhistorysources.com/Canon Law/MARRIAGELAW.htm#CASE_TWENTY-NINE__
>>3010 there, this is the right one
>>3001 >If you think pedos are bad you're a fascist Godwin's law >You're assuming im a lolicon (I'm not) <I'm not, I just waste hours of my time creating diatribes and shitty google docs to rant about how loli is totally not cartoon CP > ignore sauces and evidence Your sources are just spammed copy-paste and your evidence is fucking flimsy as fuck >not going to give you more attention LOL ok, I haven't been trying from the beginning but I guess even retards can grow a braincell and stop replying to bait. >not applying any type of materialism 1) Stop using words you don't understand 2 My posts, lazy as they were, were plenty analytical and consistent loli is the depiction of a child or child-like body and when used for explicit sexualization this means that YOU are sexualizing a cartoon child. Therefore the only difference to actual paedophilia is it being fictional. However the people who create this and masturbate to this are real. >google doc <imagine making an unironic essay defending cartoon CP Not only are most of the arguments made there flat as fuck, but they also use the same lolicon fallacies that have been dismissed time and time again. For example "Loli as a tool for child groooming" is totally a "balme the tool annd not the user" is a fallacy, because gasoline and icecream are not created specifically towards grooming children or arson. Loli porn is specifically for 1 thing - sexualizing underage girls. This is like saying that Heroin is fine because even Vicodin can be used for addiction, as if Heroin being specifically for getting high isn't the difference. The CSA statistic argument is also a fallacy. Not only have recent Japanese crime statistics related to children risen, but the methodology is correlation not causation. Economic and social factors outside are a major influence in how media affects people. >Inb4 muh Britain 1) Japan's economy and repressed culture is, for a major part, the reason rapes are not high in occurrence. Instead the population suffers in other ways, for example people marrying vocaloids and body-pillows, with many males admitting that their first sexual encounters were their mothers etc. etc. 2) japan has literal place where you can hire 16 year old consorts and have them dress as schoolgirls, clearly an influence of anime fetishizations of such underage erotica. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa 3) Japan has a far higher HDI, the highest in the world in fact, while Britain is notorious for its poor living conditions compared to the rest of Europe. >Muh morals are subjective But ethics are not. To conclude you're paedophiles in denial. Like I said before, it's the difference between 3rd and 1st degree murder, that's just about it. Oh and BTW a lot of loli hentai artists are known for using real children as a basis as to what they draw for 'realism' which is why, despite the anime-bobblehead effect, the bodies are essentially accurate representations of real children and not petit adults. So fuck off with this 'muh 2D' shit. The only place that has an argument is if you're fapping to something like Lucky Star, where the characters are closer to flat shapes, than actual people.
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>>3002 In regards to the actual paedophile debate For 1 thing puberty being in 12-13 is not quite accurate since puverty BEGINS in those age groups but is far from finished. 1) Societal development and 'civilization' has materially changed things which made sexual maturity and engagement pushed later and later. Thus even by the time of the Roman Empire, girls younger than 14 were not typically involved in real sex even if the upper class engaged in debauchery. The only reason it wasn't higher was because people's life-spans were too short, so baby-making took priority over actually caring for yourself. 2) Paleolithic girls were not the same as modern humans, they had to be ready to be able to have children early because there was a high mortality rate and survivability required earlier reproduction, this placed a lot of stress on females of the time and it is self-evident in their remains. People were essentially disregarded as human beings and just survived the best they could. 3) The beginning of puberty and technical sexual readiness is early, hell in Mexico a literal 9 year old gave birth meaning at age 8 she was sexually able to have kids, but the difference is that while physically they may be able to, they are not ready to do so or endure mentally. Children cannot consent because they do not have the sufficient mental faculties to register things an adult can, that is why child abuse is under-reported, because most children don't know that they are being abused, pic related. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/06/mexico-9-year-old-girl-gives-birth/1897407/
>>3004 In regards to some of those reports that you provided, I assume you are German and can speak German, since you provided one in German, said article mentions Richard von Krafft-Ebing, and Krafft mentions that: "He mentions several cases of pedophilia among adult women (provided by another physician), and also considered the abuse of boys by homosexual men to be extremely rare." do you happen to know the exact Krafft makes about pedophilia in adult women? Because from what I seen this comment was largely ignored in the field of sexology. Krafft also says this: "Further clarifying this point, he indicated that cases of adult men who have some medical or neurological disorder and abuse a male child are not true pedophilia and that, in his observation, victims of such men tended to be older and pubescent." Which also kind proves my point regarding 10-12 age attraction.
>>3013 I am not talking about puberty per see but when people are capable of having children, which from what I research is 1 month after menarche, or first menstrual cycle for girls: "Most American girls experience their first period at 11, 12 or 13, but some experience it earlier than their 11th birthday and others after their 14th birthday. In fact, anytime between 8 and 16 is normal." I am also not talking about sexual maturity, but sexual attraction, adult women and men expressing attraction to pubescent children, not the sexual maturity of pubescent children. Life-spans weren't too short in Ancient Rome(or the Bronze Age in general), if you lived past 5 generally you live up to 50-60, life expectancy is not a good indicator for how long people lived generally because life expectancy includes toddler mortality in the equation. I fail to think how a Poor Roman Citizen wouldn't take a young wife and make her pregnant early in order to have more children, though I also saw a research which showed that Romans age of marriage, and about 12% of people married younger than 12, about 68% married around the age of 12 and the rest married older, though I cannot find the article. Though here is some other shit I found while seeing over my history in Discord Chats: "Edward J. Wood says that Thomas Lord Berkley was contracted to a girl who was at the time 7 years old and were to consummate the marriage 4 years later, but due to illness the marriage was consummated the following year" "“By the law of Scotland, a woman cannot contrabere sponsalia before her age of seven years. 1 Rol. 343. I. 20. But by common law, persons may marry at any age. Co. Lit. 33. A. And upon such marriage the wife shall be endowed, if the attain the age of nine years, of what whatsoever age her husband be; but not before the age of nine years. Co. L. 33. A.” [5]" Also, the youngest mother in the world is Lina Medina, who gave birth in Peru when she was 5 years and 7 months old, which means she was able to have kids at the age of 4, really scary stuff.
it don't make no sense to draw a link between lolicon and pedophilia. Anyone than it makes sense to draw a link between violence in videogames and violence in real life. We aren't morons who think Doom is the reason columbine happened. The arrow of causality goes the other way, sometimes violent people use violent games as outlets. If you really thought there was a link between loli and pedos you should think there's a link between all pornography and misogyny for example.* Basically leading to a soviet censorship situation where you're only allowed to make wholesome realism. It's retarded. *as an aside when it comes to pornography generally the argument is an opposite one: "Porn and similar objectifying media(like anime) has given you a false impression of women and makes you unable to connect with real woman" But here somehow loli has such a fidelity to the original that it's the same as CP
>>3012 You dont even know what is the Godwin's law. Lmao, how you reached the conclusion that the doc was my creation? what a retard. >2 My posts, lazy as they were, were plenty analytical and consistent loli is the depiction of a child or child-like body and when used for explicit sexualization this means that YOU are sexualizing a cartoon child. Therefore the only difference to actual paedophilia is it being fictional. However the people who create this and masturbate to this are real. Uh no, youre not sexualizing any type of child, you dont have any method to You have no way of proving your point all you do is repeat your personal opinion as if it were an argument.
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>>3029 >there's a link between all pornography and misogyny False equivalency. I'm not linking ALL hentai to all child abuse, I'm saying it can be an influence, which the past years of increased child abuse in Japan is demonstrative of. HOWEVER, pornography in general is consumerist and over-all it is anti-socialist because of how exploitative it is. And some porn does normalize that which would otherwise be disgusted by others. However with Loli you can see them sexualized in common media while porn stays on 18+ sites. The Anime PSA about Lolis gives a very good example of a literal popular school child show where nude loli bodies (of which only the head is unrealistic) are shown and constant idea of sex with older men is brought up. >given you a false impression of women and makes you unable to connect with real woman It does the same with loli, because even pomf.png is only a (demented) romanticism of pedophilia, not an actual reflection of child abuse, however it can spark ideas that lead to such things (i.e. schoolgirl cafes and special regions with really low age-of-consent). >>3031 >You dont even know what is the Godwin's law. >what is the godwin's law <"as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" You literally made a comparisonwith fascists/nazbols which is Godwin's law at work >youre not sexualizing any type of child >bla bla bla no method Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about, just babbling random rubbish you don't understand. You sound like a horny teen typing with 1 hand LOL.
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>this whole thread
>>2998 I know a friend which like yaoi and he's not gay... So this normie dosen't even know the community
>>3013 >they are not ready to do so or endure mentally WTF, This is not materialist this return to hegel or is even more idealistic than that. What are you? anarchist?
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people who watch shows about swords where something like this is shown literally are people who want to go outside and stab people dead this here is a very graphic screencap of a fictional person that is modelled after a real one being murdered this is literally the same thing and i cannot differenciate
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i have drawn this, it means that i, and anyone looking at it, wants to go out and rape people looking at this image will compell you to rape all characters depicted are 18+
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>>3044 >This strawman argument again You got BTFO before with this exact same copy-pasta and exact same image. Violence is not the problem but how it is depicted. What you posted is a demonstration on a dummy, not an actual brutal murder. This is self evident in the differences of depiction and culture in Europe and America. American films are essentially "Fuck yeah violence!!!" and the culture itself reflects this, while in Europe violence is treated with respect. Depicted, but not glorified and this reflects the culture. >inb4 muh videogames strawman There are plenty of studies indicating that VIOLENCE based video-games can provoke aggressive and erratic behaviour. Nobody claims Mario killing Bowser make people violent, they talk about Call of Duty 3 and other desensitizing rubbish like that. I still remember that one kid who decided to try out GTA in real life. Lucky he was a kid and the cops didn't shoootonsight him. Every article speaking about video games and violence (whether defending video-gmaes or not) refer to First person shooters like CoD where you have human enemies that you have to murder the fuck out of to win. It helps create the same deluded mindset as /pol/'s "humans vs Orcs" view on the world. If violent depictions weren't effective why would the CIA spend so much time and money producing garbage movies like Rambo II & III, Red Dawn and other such bullshit? If media didn't affect people, they wouldn't fucking bother it. Hell that was the entire point of They Live's glasses allegory. - Craig A. Anderson and Wayne A. Warburton, “The Impact of Violent Video Games: An Overview,” Growing Up Fast and Furious, 2012 - Craig A. Anderson and Brad J. Bushman, “Effects of Violent Video Games on Aggressive Behavior, Aggressive Cognition, Aggressive Affect, Physiological Arousal, and Prosocial Behavior: A Meta-Analytic Review of the Scientific Literature,” Psychological Science, Sep. 2001 - American Academy of Pediatrics, “Joint Statement on the Impact of Entertainment Violence on Children Congressional Public Health Summit,” AAP website, July 26, 2000 - Mike Jaccarino, “‘Training Simulation:’ Mass Killers Often Share Obsession with Violent Video Games,” foxnews.com, Sep. 12, 2013 - Tracy Dietz, “An Examination of Violence and Gender Role Portrayals in Video Games: Implications for Gender Socialization and Aggressive Behavior,” Sex Roles, 1998 - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/our-changing-culture/201212/yes-violent-video-games-do-cause-aggression - Also link to the kid I was talking about: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/11/30/an-11-year-old-played-grand-theft-auto-then-led-cops-on-a-high-speed-chase-in-the-family-car/ - https://www.geek.com/games/new-study-links-video-games-to-brain-damage-1711681/ - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/08/07/playing-shooter-video-games-damages-brain-study-suggests/ - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/get-psyched/201201/do-violent-video-games-increase-aggression >>3038 >He's not gay <I'm not gay I just read men fucking each other, that's totally not gay!!! <I just like fucking men but no homo! This is like those people who say traps aren't gay >>3043 Start from the root of the problem - normalizing sexualized children. The point was never about "hurting" fictional characters but about how the people who view and "enjoy" such content are essentially escaping into a paedo fantasy... and that is fairly disgusting. >>3039 I can't tell if this is supposed to be ironic or not. Given that it's the same grammatical mash as posted prior, I'm going to reckon that this post is an unironic lack of understanding of psychology and how materialism is not the end-all-be-all of everything. >>3045 Ok strawman, keep ignoring the fact that MEDIA influences people.
>>2909 Do you even know what a repository is?
>>3051 Interesting. This is like max simp mode and 3d lolicon. I approve, as the guy said, very gentlemanly, no harassment. It's not like the girl doesn't know about sex or whatever. The 18 age of consent is very arbitrary and mostly makes sense in badly educated societies in regards to sex. Not to say I approve or disapprove of old men fucking underage women, just that people pretend teenagers discover sex on their 18th birthday. I've seen much more terrible demonstrations of the same in other cultures. I prefer this sterilized and out in the open, as it is here.
>>3055 That is not a teenager though, one thing is also what they shown in the event itself and what actually happens in the backstage, I do agree 18 as the age of consent is overall retard(here it's 14), but to say those shit that happen in Japan is a healthy way of doing and expressing their desire is wrong
>>3055 >I prefer this sterilized and out in the open, as it is here. I thought we hate culture industry here on bunkerchans. To provide closeted pedos actuall 11 year old girl "idols" with still no self-responsibility is cultur-capital at its weirdest if you ask me.
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>>2865 In short - thought crime. Le Unbelievable Sin. Yeah, that's it. There is no point arguing with such people, they just believe that certain sexual fantasies are just bad and will endlessly develop theories about "Chinese porn cartoons making you a pedo". You can't really be judged for what's inside your head, and you can't be judged for fapping to cartoon characters, be it kids or whatever. Anyone who says otherwise and tries to justify the concept of "thought offence" through obnoxious puritan "cultivation theories", are just wannabe white knights, who want to look better in the eyes of society for basically no effort. This shit is just a cargo cult of late 2000's pedohysteria, reproduced by virtue signalling radlibs and/or conservatives online. Of course they can't catch an actual child molester, so they start attacking harmless artists and their audience, because they unironically think that such sexual fantasy should be prohibited, because it's "indecent" or even "degenerate". Boomer logic and pure moralfaggotry.
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>>3058 Any person of intelligence should never give people like you any quarter, because you give lolicon defenders an inch and they take a mile and soon it's "what's so wrong with CP anyway" bullshit, every fucking time. >Muh thought crimes Typical western idiocy. Lolicon is not just 'thoughts, it is thoughts that are put onto paper/screens and spread to other people. It is not isolated to yourself and does influence other people and not in a good way. >You can't really be judged for what's inside your head <You're the next Chikotlo who just has been repressing themselves because social norms? Don't worry no judging! Don't get help, just 'be yourself' even when it's retarded because that't what 50 years of capitalist propaganda told you. >Anyone who says otherwise <People who say lolicon is bad are dogmatists <I'm totally not dogmatizing 'muh freedoms' when I refuse to accept legitimate criticism LOL >cultivation theories <Imma just ignore the fact that social, economic and political environment influences people and their behaviors. Nobody says that "if you look at a loli you turn into a pedo". The point is that relatively frequent exposure to such things and what they represent influence people. The very concept of Memes proves cultivation theory, since without it, memes would just be captioned images and wouldn't become hot-topics or spread across the internet. >want to look better in the eyes of society <ur a white knight if you think about ethics You sound like an Ancap incel. It's hilarious to claim this when American society and even European society is so obsessed with "liburty!!!!" >anti-degeneracy is 'muh boomers' and 'moralfags' <Hurr anyone who thinks being a hedonist is retarded is 'my parental issues' Ok lib >a cargo cult of late 2000's pedohysteria LOL ok Epstein, all the CP rings and child abuse that keeps getting found 'totally' isn't real. >they can't catch an actual child molester Because they're online, and to catch them you'd have to engage with them and risk being accused of being one instead >they start attacking harmless artists/audiences <social influence is totally harmless, REALLY!!! The point was never about "hurting" fictional characters but about how the people who view and "enjoy" such content are essentially escaping into a paedo fantasy and normalizing child sexualization. Many of these 'artists' often model off REAL children when drawing these hentai doujins. >virtue signalling radlibs <radlibs are literally promoting child sexuality and MAPS pride LOL you're just using leftypol buzzwords to sound smarter >sexual fantasy should be prohibited <fantasizing about a bigheaded kid fucking someone is totally legit because it's not real!!! It's one thing to have some minor fetishes. Foodplay or or foot-fagging or spanking etc. But enjoying shit, literal and figurative is just mentally ill. It's fairly well recognized on leftypol that sexual obsession is a caused by capitalist consumerism, dehumanization and objectification (and more). Sex is so oversaturated and commodified in society that people crave shit that they wouldn't even think of. Horny people will jerk off to anything and only after will they realize that "oh, I just fapped to a picture of a dog fucking an anime girl" or some other shit. >>3051 >>3055 >An edited and clearly glamorized depiction is the same as the actual thing. <It totally isn't a prettified bersion of what is essentially abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai I agree that the age of consent being 18 is excessive, however it exists because until the ages of 16-18 your mind isn't yet fully developed and cannot reliably make smart adult decisions (like consent), partly due to late-stage pubertal hormones. It's why you see teen girls going insane for generic pop singers like Justin Bieber and later look back on it with embarrassment.
>>3058 Exactly. A lot of this stuff is simply art. I don't care if people find it disturbing, but it is art, and if some people get off to it, then good for them. This idea that "well it's still pedophilia" is a red herring. If simply finding this attractive is pedophilia, then it isn't wrong to be a pedophile. It's wrong to be a child molester. And if no children are involved, then I fail to see the harm in it. Enjoy yourselves and remember that socialism is about bettering your life, not turning it into a regimented structure dictated by moral busybodies.
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>>3070 >Create lolipol thread for the sole purpose of provoking argument on the topic and thus get anti-lolicon replies <hey man why you trying to be a busy body maaan? Amazing logic. >spoilering an SFW pic WHY!? You do realize all the anti-lolicon posters have been arguing against SEXUALIZING loli's not actually posting them in general right? >socialism is about bettering your life Socialism is about seizing the means of production and installing a dictatorship of the proletariat which oversees everything within a socialist state, this includes media. It's main purpose is to disarm and remove the capitalist class and its worst products (such as un-necessary commodities and for-profit labour organization/production). This inherently requires a 'regimented structure' regardless of whether you centralize or decentralize the planned economy. You cannot have socialism without moderating the media consumed. >simply art pic related is ART of a nude child. Loli doujins and obviously erotic/pornographic anime grills are not art. They are media, but not art. To call it art would make anything 'art' and would make the word meaningless. >If simply finding this attractive is pedophilia Most people are not attracted to prepubescent children, cartoon or otherwise. This paraphilia is most prevalent in First World where hyperconsumerism drives people to do things that 90% of the rest of the global population would be either confused or disgusted by. >Red Herring If you're not attracted to it being a child-like body, then what is the attraction? It isn't 'just' an anime grill, since there are definitive reasons that make it a LOLI >if no children are involved, then I fail to see the harm in it If we existed in a vacuum maybe.
>>2964 >wherein Japan is hyper-repressed in real life to the point where large portions of men have their first sexual experiences with their own mothers Um..what?? Source? This can't be real
>>3080 I lost the link (I posted it somewhere on 8ch leftyweebpol) but essentially it was an article discussion the fact that Japanese men have so many problems trying to interact and have relationships with women that often their first interactions sexually are realted to their mothers (be it imitating a relationship with them, jerking off to them, being given a handjob/blowjob or outright fucking them). If you search through the waybackarchive of the board you might find the link, I'm too lazy to do it now, since I'm going to sleep and am on my phone.
>>2962 TAKE BACK THE CLAY ANGLOS OUT
>>2964 On a more germane note, how does one square the belief that propaganda affects behaviour and that video games and similar things don't affect behaviour? The recent shooter themed games have been demonstrated to promote revisionist mongering about the Soviets after all.
>>3082 Sex crimes might be underreported in Japan, too.
Someone has to drag Rafiq here so that he could settle this with his sheer ML autism once and for all, once again. Also, stop the bigotry towards the Japs and the trannies, the topic doesn't require it to be productive.
>>3085 >this based >>3086 >also this Society in Japan is very rigid at times, so any domestic abuse is hidden from outside view because it is seen as dishonorable to have others know. t.knowjapanesepeople https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/11/16/national/crime-legal/sex-crimes-japan-still-significantly-underreported-justice-ministry-survey-finds/ >>3088 >bigotry <saying honest truths is bigotry Japanese are very self-repressed. It's well known on this board that the culture itself is highly reactionary despite its advanced HDI. >trannies Literally 2 posts outside of this one and yours talk about "muh trannies" and only refer to them in passing. There is no bigotry in saying that they aren't the norm when they aren't... it's why they're labeled a minority, yeah?
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What about shotas?
So when are we removing this board?
>>3085 It is not that they might not affect behavior, but there is no evidence of this being negative or more pronounced than any other sort of media. Of course, propaganda aims to spread disinformation, depictions of sex or violence in games do not aim to spread disinformation. Violence is portrayed as violence, and sex as sex, whether exaggerated or not. The alternative would be censorship. I, for one, like free expression of the arts. If someone wants to make a lolicon manga, or a violent game, then this is good. It is an outlet for creativity.
>>3074 >hurr I get to decide what art is and isn't BTW, media is just a form of conveying information. Art can be anything. Loli is art. https://exhentai.org/g/662154/d5c164c9b6/ This one is definitely a work of art.
>>3100 >posting sadpanda <being this retarded the sheer irony >Art can be anything <Muh art is subjective PoMoism Go back to reddit >media is just a form of conveying information Information in media is almost never neutral you idiot, it does not exist in a vacuum and has an effect on viewers you dumbass
>>2961 What is happening in GETchan? The url is acting weird.
Did Stalin approve of taking more than one partner? Was inc*st legal in the USSR?

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